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Would you be OK with your partner going to a VI game to have a romantic and sexual relationship with a computer?

Yes, I'd be fine with that.

 

Are you OK in general with someone else fucking your partner?

 

I don't particularly like it, but if I were to make that my concern my life would probably be an even shorter and quite unpleasant ride consistently.

This isn't natural either, it's more of a terms of service I agree upon at the beginning of romance, that she will be attracted to countless others and it's likely she'll act on it.

 

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Outro said: 

Dignity is a good enough reason alone, but I also couldn't abide a partner that would pursue something so lame. Just cheat on me with a real person if you need kicks.

So lame? It's a VI where people sexually please you 24/7. What's so lame about that? But porn is OK for you cause it's a step down?

It's lame because it's not real. Anyone can pay a subscription to fuck 1's and 0's, doesn't say much for your real world appeal. 

Porn is a false equivalence, I don't watch porn to escape a sexless marriage, I watch it for the same reason I drink a beer after work. 

To get drunk? So if your wife gets fucked by strangers just for the lols, would that be ok for you then? Is it that lack of emotional connection that bothers you primarily?

 No, getting fucked by strangers for lols wouldn't fly either.

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Canary said: 

Yes, I'd be fine with that.

So it's the emotional closeness then that bothers you or the reality aspect of it?

Are you OK in general with someone else fucking your partner?

I don't particularly like it, but if I were to make that my concern my life would probably be an even shorter and quite unpleasant ride consistently.

This isn't natural either, it's more of a terms of service I agree upon at the beginning of romance, that she will be attracted to countless others and it's likely she'll act on it.

Likely to act on it? I think it's not that likely. I think it's likely that she will be attracted to other people, but cheating doesn't seem very common?

 

Outro said: 

It's lame because it's not real. Anyone can pay a subscription to fuck 1's and 0's, doesn't say much for your real world appeal. 

Anyone can also pay a subscription for 1s and 0s and watch porn but you seem to think that's ok.

Porn is a false equivalence, I don't watch porn to escape a sexless marriage, I watch it for the same reason I drink a beer after work. 

To get drunk? So if your wife gets fucked by strangers just for the lols, would that be ok for you then? Is it that lack of emotional connection that bothers you primarily?

 No, getting fucked by strangers for lols wouldn't fly either.

Youre against relationships with virtual AI, but porn is not a problem because you do it for the lols, but cheating for the lols is a problem. What about if your girlfriend is getting fucked by virtual AI with no feelings for the lols, like how you drink beer and watch porn?

It seems to me like your original objection is not actually an objection. You think watching porn is ok for some other reason.

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Outro said: 

It's lame because it's not real. Anyone can pay a subscription to fuck 1's and 0's, doesn't say much for your real world appeal. 

Anyone can also pay a subscription for 1s and 0s and watch porn but you seem to think that's ok.

Porn is a false equivalence, I don't watch porn to escape a sexless marriage, I watch it for the same reason I drink a beer after work. 

To get drunk? So if your wife gets fucked by strangers just for the lols, would that be ok for you then? Is it that lack of emotional connection that bothers you primarily?

 No, getting fucked by strangers for lols wouldn't fly either.

Youre against relationships with virtual AI, but porn is not a problem because you do it for the lols, but cheating for the lols is a problem. What about if your girlfriend is getting fucked by virtual AI with no feelings for the lols, like how you drink beer and watch porn?

It seems like your original objection is not actually an objection. You think watching porn is ok for some other reason.

 You're forgetting your original question; 

"Anna is generally happy with the relationship. She and her husband have a nice job, nice house, and a stress-free relationship. But there's a problem. Anna hasn't felt sexually satisfied for a long time.

Since their relationship is mostly fine, Anna doesn't want to break up but just wants to find someone who can sexually satisfy her. However, she doesn't want to betray her husband Joe, and she knows that Joe will never be fine with an open relationship."

A virtual AI relationship with no feelings for lols is just porn with more steps, but the intention of meeting a need that doesn't get satisfied within the relationship is the problem. To look for that satisfaction in an AI is the lame part.

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Outro said: 
A virtual AI relationship with no feelings for lols is just porn with more steps, but the intention of meeting a need that doesn't get satisfied within the relationship is the problem. To look for that satisfaction in an AI is the lame part.

So if there wasn't a problem in the relationship, you'd be fine with it?

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I think I’d be mad because I want to be there for the guy to fulfill his ever need, especially sexual, but this is my situation with Chapo. We have lots of issues and have from the start, but we will likely get married, hopefully after fixing our issues. I realized the other day what was wrong and we decided to work on it. They should do the same and not just give up and look for it elsewhere.

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Canary said: 

Yes, I'd be fine with that.

So it's the emotional closeness then that bothers you or the reality aspect of it?

I simply don't want to be bothered by it, and in practice I don't feel anyway about being cheated on the most part.

Don't get me wrong, in the past I've had adverse reactions to being cheated on, and as you'd know that's real unpleasant.

Above all things in relationships, I don't want a partner who can hurt me, or try to hurt me, I find that offputting. 

If my girl runs off and get's her back blown out by some other dude, things will definitely change and I will be disappointed for a short while. If anything we can still fuck, but it won't be me cleaning up her mess, or treating her out. I would however be impressed if she was open about it.

All a man wants is to get laid. Of course by today's standards I'd sound like the bad guy but really I'm looking after #1.

 

Are you OK in general with someone else fucking your partner?

I don't particularly like it, but if I were to make that my concern my life would probably be an even shorter and quite unpleasant ride consistently.

This isn't natural either, it's more of a terms of service I agree upon at the beginning of romance, that she will be attracted to countless others and it's likely she'll act on it.

Likely to act on it? I think it's not that likely. I think it's likely that she will be attracted to other people, but cheating doesn't seem very common?

Cheating is common and women do it more than guys. Easily more common than divorce. Intuitively we can see not all cheaters get caught.

I watched a piece about dating the other day, and I had to agree, 80% of guys don't have options while 20% of us are basically pumping and dumping girls all the time.

We see this in dating apps where women of various, grades if you will, have inboxes with abundant messages from guys who are interested in linking up, while the average guy has 0 or nearly 0 interest from women.

If a guy had many options, it wouldn't be our job to make the first move. That concept would be laughable had we many concubines lined up.

That being said, in the grand scheme it isn't possible for guys to cheat more.

Knowledge = transformation 

Or rather transformation if the dude wakes up and accepts the truth of him and the state of affairs between the 2 genders. Otherwise he'll be a simp, or he'll waste time trying to figure out if she's cheating on him, or get caught investigating her which makes him lose point regardness if she's cheating or not.

She wants to watch porn or masturbate with Ai, dude let her. Neither of those "things" care about her. She wants to have affairs, then treat her like a whore, or discard her if that makes you feel better ( it won't if she hurt you )

Set up your relationship in a way so she isn't afraid to hurt you, nor feel the need to lie to you. Of course that isn't happening but strive for it anyway.

A man who fails to master his emotions will be destroyed from many angles, including by women, they're not attracted to weakness, but don't train yourself for them, do it so you have a fail safe and improved mental health.

 

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Canary said: 

I simply don't want to be bothered by it, and in practice I don't feel anyway about being cheated on the most part.

Interesting.

All a man wants is to get laid. Of course by today's standards I'd sound like the bad guy but really I'm looking after #1.
So I suppose you're not looking for depth  in your relationships? Would that be a bonus, though? What's your view on monogamy? If you're living together with your partner and spending a large fraction of your time with them, it would seem like choosing someone you can both bang but also talk to would be wise? Assuming you've been brainwashed into monogamy by the culture around you or don't want to cheat on your partners.
 
Surely it's not impossible to find someone that you can talk to?
 

Cheating is common and women do it more than guys. Easily more common than divorce. Intuitively we can see not all cheaters get caught.

Strange, I've only seen it once among my friend circles. Culture, maybe. I've seen couples from different cultures to my own "window shopping" for  partners, kind of like how you look for work. Take the best offer, and treat it like it's a business transaction. It comes off kind of psychopathic.

Or rather transformation if the dude wakes up and accepts the truth of him and the state of affairs between the 2 genders. Otherwise he'll be a simp, or he'll waste time trying to figure out if she's cheating on him, or get caught investigating her which makes him lose point regardness if she's cheating or not.

She wants to watch porn or masturbate with Ai, dude let her. Neither of those "things" care about her. She wants to have affairs, then treat her like a whore, or discard her if that makes you feel better ( it won't if she hurt you )

Treat her like a whore? I guess if you're alright with that. However, won't that hurt your mental health, credibility, and reputation in the long run? Would other women still consider you if you treated your current woman like shit and had a toxic relationship with your ex, and lacked principles? Assuming you won't deceive them. Wouldn't you also be better off finding someone who doesn't have those problems? Or is that impossible? I find this argument to be  similar to those people  saying you shouldn't quit your toxic job because you just do it for the money. But the question is not "is it bad not to have money?". Instead, the question should be "is it worth it to risk losing financial security for a hypothetical (better) alternative?" Having an existing relationship is a time sink.

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Canary said: 

I simply don't want to be bothered by it, and in practice I don't feel anyway about being cheated on the most part.

Interesting.

All a man wants is to get laid. Of course by today's standards I'd sound like the bad guy but really I'm looking after #1.
So I suppose you're not looking for depth  in your relationships? Would that be a bonus, though? What's your view on monogamy? If you're living together with your partner and spending a large fraction of your time with them, it would seem like choosing someone you can both bang but also talk to would be wise? Assuming you've been brainwashed into monogamy by the culture around you or don't want to cheat on your partners.
Surely it's not impossible to find someone that you can talk to?
I'm all for monogamy. Having multiple partners is troublesome. Already I dislike holidays and what am I supposed to do on such days ? There are other reasons I'm for it. It's one thing I continued to believe in before I changed.
 
I do talk about stuff with my date and we have good times
 

Cheating is common and women do it more than guys. Easily more common than divorce. Intuitively we can see not all cheaters get caught.

Strange, I've only seen it once among my friend circles. Culture, maybe. I've seen couples from different cultures to my own "window shopping" for  partners, kind of like how you look for work. Take the best offer, and treat it like it's a business transaction. It comes off kind of psychopathic.

When it happens people tend to keep a tight lid on it. Our friend circles are also rather small aren't they ? Other friends don't share secrets with us either. I can't say how often it happens among your people, but when it does it's unlikely they'd talk about it.

Partnerships are in effect business relations.

 

Or rather transformation if the dude wakes up and accepts the truth of him and the state of affairs between the 2 genders. Otherwise he'll be a simp, or he'll waste time trying to figure out if she's cheating on him, or get caught investigating her which makes him lose point regardness if she's cheating or not.

She wants to watch porn or masturbate with Ai, dude let her. Neither of those "things" care about her. She wants to have affairs, then treat her like a whore, or discard her if that makes you feel better ( it won't if she hurt you )

Treat her like a whore? I guess if you're alright with that. However, won't that hurt your mental health, credibility, and reputation in the long run?

It can. That's how it is for men. She can go bang other guys, but if her man took a healthier approach to getting cheated on, that's somehow a bad thing.

Some guys get destroyed when this happens and they lose contact and burn bridges then there's awkwardness and resentment, while other guys are like whatever, we'll have sex later or not.

 

Would other women still consider you if you treated your current woman like shit and had a toxic relationship with your ex, and lacked principles?

Those are some red flags if a lady friend brought that up to me. Don't treat the lady like shit.

Remember though. We're talking from the perspective of being cheated on. Some might say sticking around to be fuck buddies is taking easy as opposed to some other tragic ending we'd expect out of this. At that point she might want it to end anyway cause most likely she isn't the same. Besides chasing after her in grief WILL, make it worse.

When we lose, we have a chance to win, but that depends on how we handle the situation. Yes it will hurt, but we can recover from heartbreak very soon. The alternative is lower vibrational energies, grieving, sleeplessness, chest pains, mental attacks. When we realize the suffering itself is worse than the loss we can begin healing from it, and it's quicker than you think. When we do recover, we're bad ass and we feel great.

This is wisdom eh ?

 

Assuming you won't deceive them. Wouldn't you also be better off finding someone who doesn't have those problems? Or is that impossible? I find this argument to be  similar to those people  saying you shouldn't quit your toxic job because you just do it for the money. But the question is not "is it bad not to have money?". Instead, the question should be "is it worth it to risk losing financial security for a hypothetical (better) alternative?" Having an existing relationship is a time sink.

 If the job is making the worker ill, then why live miserably ? Money isn't everything, or, it isn't supposed to be, making less does suck. I personally haven't worked for half a decade now.

When it comes to finding someone who doesn't have those problems... Well that's easier said than done my friend. We don't simply choose who we want to be with then get them. That's for hot chicks, and even they won't be content nor their her boyfriends because if she's smoking hot, then it's simply his turn, in most cases. Later on she'll have difficulty settling down cause she had so much cock, she won't know the best one and probably crave sex with other guys from time to time.

I understand I'll seem like a dick for not losing my shit or falling into other types of ruin we typically see when there's a fallout between lovers. But really, I've simply practiced the recovered state of being, which the brokenhearted need, or else they'll continue to suffer. Some people kill themselves over this stuff, because they lack wisdom, or don't even dare to aspire to accept the truth in the matter.

People are wired a certain way. Take the cuck for example. People laugh at these people and deem them pathetic, but when the shit hits the fan people need the cuck's powers, cause the cuck isn't going to lose any sleep getting cheating on. In my opinion that's admirable, simply because being cheated on is beyond our control. 

If she cheats on you, and you're calling her down, cringing in your bed, crying, having nightmares, being the type of man no woman wants.... Just don't do it, or rather, don't let her do that to you. It's possible if you try, if the situation disgusts you acknowledge that and move away from it. You can even embrace the situation cause it'll make you strong and you'll evolve into a more powerful being. If not you'll devolve into a lesser state of being. Also if she returns don't be quick to take her back. This isn't a head game, but rather, you need to set the record with yourself as to why you'd take her back, and you'll need new rules. Or if you'll be fine repeating the same cycle. In a nutshell, "DO NOT take her back for relief." We need to find relief elsewhere or else we'll be prone to being codependent on someone we really shouldn't trust, and if we go about it the wrong way we'll be vulnerable for another dose of enfeebling on their mark.

My personal record from recovering from heartbreak is 2 or 3 months, and if it happens again I know it'll be sooner.

What I'm telling you doesn't come easy. We have to have gotten destroyed to become this way. When the pain beeps, just write it off as annoying and how you want it gone for starters. After that you'll have a different approach on relationships. Me I've been cheated on many times. That ex is a boomerang too. If you're a man you'll be on your own in this case. If you handle it well, you'll by default look like the bad guy. Like you were uncaring or something.

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Canary said: 
When it happens people tend to keep a tight lid on it. Our friend circles are also rather small aren't they ?
Mine aren't, and I know pretty much everything about them. It should be pretty obvious when someone breaks up and then a day later they're hooked with someone else.
 
It can. That's how it is for men. She can go bang other guys, but if her man took a healthier approach to getting cheated on, that's somehow a bad thing.

That's because men are kind of like pigs and do it for self-indulgence, while women usually have better reasons (abusive, neglectful, or emotionally unavailable boyfriend, doesnt bring flowers, ....). There are some that do it for unacceptable reasons. Either way, I'd argue that cheating is always bad. However, the problem with men sticking with the girl and treating her like a whore says a lot about their personality, priorities, and self-respect. I'd have the same reaction if a man cheated and the girl stuck with him but started treating him like an ATM.

Edit: Actually, no, I would cheer for the girl. Maybe you're right. Maybe I have a bias.

Those are some red flags if a lady friend brought that up to me. Don't treat the lady like shit.

Fair.

This is wisdom eh ?

It is.

If the job is making the worker ill, then why live miserably ? Money isn't everything, or, it isn't supposed to be, making less does suck. I personally haven't worked for half a decade now.

Exactly, but you're driving my point. I was drawing an analogy between your advice to stick with a girl who cheats with you for the sake of sex to a guy staying at a toxic job for the sake of money. There are better jobs out there, and ways of making money without working.

We don't simply choose who we want to be with then get them. That's for hot chicks, and even they won't be content nor their her boyfriends because if she's smoking hot, then it's simply his turn, in most cases.

It seems like you're implying it's impossible to find someone hot who won't cheat on you? Hard? Maybe. But impossible?

People laugh at these people and deem them pathetic, but when the shit hits the fan people need the cuck's powers, cause the cuck isn't going to lose any sleep getting cheating on. In my opinion that's admirable, simply because being cheated on is beyond our control.

It's moral cowardice, not personal cowardice. I don't object to someone letting their wives cheat on them because it's wrong for them not to cry about it. I'm objecting to it on the basis of morality.

A society where people cheat less is objectively better in terms of general mental health (with a few exceptions) than a society where people cheat more. By not objecting to the cheating, the cuck is indirectly promoting it, and participating as an agent to drive the society to shit. It's moral cowardice. If we all collectively agreed that cheating and general dishonesty is penalized, it would reduce (but not eliminate) cheating. Over time, there would be a paradigm shift towards a more honest society.

You can even embrace the situation cause it'll make you strong and you'll evolve into a more powerful being.

If you're myopic.

If not you'll devolve into a lesser state of being.

If you let it get to you, yes.

Also if she returns don't be quick to take her back. This isn't a head game, but rather, you need to set the record with yourself as to why you'd take her back, and you'll need new rules.

Ok fair.

My personal record from recovering from heartbreak is 2 or 3 months, and if it happens again I know it'll be sooner.

Heartbreak or break-up? If breakup, 5 minutes is my record. I've never been heartbroken. I wouldn't think it's my fault if I was cheated on. I'd be glad I found out so I can stop wasting my time. I'd cut things off out of principle. If I don't trust someone, I can't have a relationship with them.

When the pain beeps, just write it off as annoying and how you want it gone for starters. After that you'll have a different approach on relationships.

Probably.

Me I've been cheated on many times. That ex is a boomerang too.

Really? How did it go? Did she get fucked by other men or just started cheating on an emotional level and stopped having feelings for you?

If you handle it well, you'll by default look like the bad guy.

I don't think so. Maybe this is a thing in your culture. I see a lot of vids on the internet about people cheering for the guy who broke up with the girl that cheated on him. I think people generally root for the guy/girl who got cheated on.

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