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LiYang said: 

Outro said: 

 This is very politically confused lmao, increasing household debt and making people reliant on their jobs is a right wing fiscal policy position.

Also, the POTUS could sign an executive order to ban assault rifles. He could take some really hardcore policy positions if this was the end game. Why protract things into a decades long culture war?

 "increasing household debt" That's it, that's your only comment? Okay I'll give you that one. It's wrong anyway, no matter what side it's on. This regime is trying to increase debt. They must be Right? Maybe we need another name for this lift above. Tyranny!

"ban assault rifles" and no POTUS does not have that kind of power by design. please read up on the executive branch and the limitation of executive orders.

 Not my only comment lol, just my most diplomatic one.

I'll grant you that POTUS can't necessarily ban people from owning assault rifles (although no prez has tried, and I'm not a constitutional lawyer so idk if it's a can't or a can't be fucked with the legal challenges)... but he can ban their importation and generally make them very difficult to access.

My point is that if there was some kinda left-wing NWO conspiracy, why do things so slowly and by the book in the US? Why not go buckwild like Venezuela? 

Outro said: 

LiYang said: 

Outro said: 

 This is very politically confused lmao, increasing household debt and making people reliant on their jobs is a right wing fiscal policy position.

Also, the POTUS could sign an executive order to ban assault rifles. He could take some really hardcore policy positions if this was the end game. Why protract things into a decades long culture war?

 "increasing household debt" That's it, that's your only comment? Okay I'll give you that one. It's wrong anyway, no matter what side it's on. This regime is trying to increase debt. They must be Right? Maybe we need another name for this lift above. Tyranny!

"ban assault rifles" and no POTUS does not have that kind of power by design. please read up on the executive branch and the limitation of executive orders.

 Not my only comment lol, just my most diplomatic one.

I'll grant you that POTUS can't necessarily ban people from owning assault rifles (although no prez has tried, and I'm not a constitutional lawyer so idk if it's a can't or a can't be fucked with the legal challenges)... but he can ban their importation and generally make them very difficult to access.

My point is that if there was some kinda left-wing NWO conspiracy, why do things so slowly and by the book in the US? Why not go buckwild like Venezuela? 

Slow? You need to open your eyes.

Stolen election, lab leak virus, fear campaign propaganda, fake emergency pandemic, fake science, government owned media, medical tyranny, forced vaccinations, banning needed drugs, climate change emergency is next

LiYang said: 

Tryptamine said:

by asking you to cite where he wrote the shit since you're slinging it around

Prove he didn't say it. You can't.

if you look into the image, you'll see it's basically a meme. closest thing alinsky wrote about was "13 rules for radicals" which was quite unlike the 8 rules to create a social state. of course even if i read all his books and knew all the content, me saying "yeah i know for sure he didn't talk about that" wouldn't matter because someone could just say i misunderstood some part or whatever. i think that there is a ton out there of people debunking the image and no real answer to that is proof enough for reasonable folk.

LiYang said:

I'm not slinging anything. I never said a word about the guy. Don't know the guy don't care about the guy.

Tryptamine said: 

LiYang said: 

Tryptamine said:

by asking you to cite where he wrote the shit since you're slinging it around

Prove he didn't say it. You can't.

if you look into the image, you'll see it's basically a meme. closest thing alinsky wrote about was "13 rules for radicals" which was quite unlike the 8 rules to create a social state. of course even if i read all his books and knew all the content, me saying "yeah i know for sure he didn't talk about that" wouldn't matter because someone could just say i misunderstood some part or whatever. i think that there is a ton out there of people debunking the image and no real answer to that is proof enough for reasonable folk.

 

LiYang said:

I'm not slinging anything. I never said a word about the guy. Don't know the guy don't care about the guy.

you're literally posting the outlined steps to a social state attributed to him in an image, then using the said points in a "reminder of the leftist global plan" in your OP. the gravity of the points made in the article of the image is supposed to be given by them being authored by saul alinsky, who "died about 43 years ago, but his writing influenced those in political control of our nation today."

 

you can say, "well i don't care about the article's intentions, it had good points that still stand." well, not really if the point of what you're doing is to show that a plan is being followed out, when the metrics are just arbitrarily made up. it'd be like me saying the republicans are following "5 rules to ensure a fascist state"

 

1. control the medical system (remove reproductive rights/increase reliance on the private sector)

2. control the media narrative (discredit major outlets as "fake news")

3. subvert the democratic process (discredit electoral system)

4. subvert checks and balances (discredit members of branches such as the fbi and judicial system/remove appointed opposition)

5. fabricate conspiracy narratives of the opposition (push the narrative there's a hidden vaccine agenda to create hysteria)

 

it's easy to just say shit

 Dummy

🌺plumeria🌺 said: 

Tryptamine said: 

LiYang said: 

Tryptamine said:

by asking you to cite where he wrote the shit since you're slinging it around

Prove he didn't say it. You can't.

if you look into the image, you'll see it's basically a meme. closest thing alinsky wrote about was "13 rules for radicals" which was quite unlike the 8 rules to create a social state. of course even if i read all his books and knew all the content, me saying "yeah i know for sure he didn't talk about that" wouldn't matter because someone could just say i misunderstood some part or whatever. i think that there is a ton out there of people debunking the image and no real answer to that is proof enough for reasonable folk.

 

LiYang said:

I'm not slinging anything. I never said a word about the guy. Don't know the guy don't care about the guy.

you're literally posting the outlined steps to a social state attributed to him in an image, then using the said points in a "reminder of the leftist global plan" in your OP. the gravity of the points made in the article of the image is supposed to be given by them being authored by saul alinsky, who "died about 43 years ago, but his writing influenced those in political control of our nation today."

 

you can say, "well i don't care about the article's intentions, it had good points that still stand." well, not really if the point of what you're doing is to show that a plan is being followed out, when the metrics are just arbitrarily made up. it'd be like me saying the republicans are following "5 rules to ensure a fascist state"

 

1. control the medical system (remove reproductive rights/increase reliance on the private sector)

2. control the media narrative (discredit major outlets as "fake news")

3. subvert the democratic process (discredit electoral system)

4. subvert checks and balances (discredit members of branches such as the fbi and judicial system/remove appointed opposition)

5. fabricate conspiracy narratives of the opposition (push the narrative there's a hidden vaccine agenda to create hysteria)

 

it's easy to just say shit

 Dummy

 I am sorry for calling you a dummy but I am still mad at you

LiYang said: 

Outro said: 

LiYang said: 

Outro said: 

 This is very politically confused lmao, increasing household debt and making people reliant on their jobs is a right wing fiscal policy position.

Also, the POTUS could sign an executive order to ban assault rifles. He could take some really hardcore policy positions if this was the end game. Why protract things into a decades long culture war?

 "increasing household debt" That's it, that's your only comment? Okay I'll give you that one. It's wrong anyway, no matter what side it's on. This regime is trying to increase debt. They must be Right? Maybe we need another name for this lift above. Tyranny!

"ban assault rifles" and no POTUS does not have that kind of power by design. please read up on the executive branch and the limitation of executive orders.

 Not my only comment lol, just my most diplomatic one.

I'll grant you that POTUS can't necessarily ban people from owning assault rifles (although no prez has tried, and I'm not a constitutional lawyer so idk if it's a can't or a can't be fucked with the legal challenges)... but he can ban their importation and generally make them very difficult to access.

My point is that if there was some kinda left-wing NWO conspiracy, why do things so slowly and by the book in the US? Why not go buckwild like Venezuela? 

Slow? You need to open your eyes.

Stolen election, lab leak virus, fear campaign propaganda, fake emergency pandemic, fake science, government owned media, medical tyranny, forced vaccinations, banning needed drugs, climate change emergency is next

 Wow you're really lock, stock and barrel with this shit, hey?

One thing I've always wanted to ask a "plandemic" person is... why manufacture an emergency that needs to fuck up the economy this badly? 

Why not an STI or a chemical that causes infertility or some shit? Why not Agent Orange or poisoning the water supply? Or another public Cold War?

An aerosol-spread disease that made governments lock down cities and decimate their economies seems a weird choice when you could probably have achieved the same thing through another avenue. 

Outro said: 

LiYang said: 

Outro said: 

LiYang said: 

Outro said: 

 This is very politically confused lmao, increasing household debt and making people reliant on their jobs is a right wing fiscal policy position.

Also, the POTUS could sign an executive order to ban assault rifles. He could take some really hardcore policy positions if this was the end game. Why protract things into a decades long culture war?

 "increasing household debt" That's it, that's your only comment? Okay I'll give you that one. It's wrong anyway, no matter what side it's on. This regime is trying to increase debt. They must be Right? Maybe we need another name for this lift above. Tyranny!

"ban assault rifles" and no POTUS does not have that kind of power by design. please read up on the executive branch and the limitation of executive orders.

 Not my only comment lol, just my most diplomatic one.

I'll grant you that POTUS can't necessarily ban people from owning assault rifles (although no prez has tried, and I'm not a constitutional lawyer so idk if it's a can't or a can't be fucked with the legal challenges)... but he can ban their importation and generally make them very difficult to access.

My point is that if there was some kinda left-wing NWO conspiracy, why do things so slowly and by the book in the US? Why not go buckwild like Venezuela? 

Slow? You need to open your eyes.

Stolen election, lab leak virus, fear campaign propaganda, fake emergency pandemic, fake science, government owned media, medical tyranny, forced vaccinations, banning needed drugs, climate change emergency is next

 Wow you're really lock, stock and barrel with this shit, hey?

One thing I've always wanted to ask a "plandemic" person is... why manufacture an emergency that needs to fuck up the economy this badly? 

Why not an STI or a chemical that causes infertility or some shit? Why not Agent Orange or poisoning the water supply? Or another public Cold War?

An aerosol-spread disease that made governments lock down cities and decimate their economies seems a weird choice when you could probably have achieved the same thing through another avenue. 

Fucking up the economy is part of their plan.. rule. Number 2 above and 7 below

The vaccines are causing infertility.. Where have you been? The Biodistribution shows the lipid going to the ovaries in high concentration. Time will tell. Women's cycles are all fucked up after vaccine, why? Do they go back to normal? Where are the studies?

"another avenue." like what? a pandemic is perfect. this has all been planned. don't you see the global script?

This is about destruction of a way of life and replacing it with another.

Climate change will be the new emergency.

More rules

"Communist Rules for Revolution

In May 1919 at Dusseldorf, Germany, the allied forces discovered a copy of these ‘Rules.’ They were first printed in the United States in the ‘Bartlesville (Oklahoma) Examiner-Enterprise’ the same year, 1919.

Almost 20 years later, in 1946, the attorney general of Florida obtained them from a known member of the Communist Party, who acknowledged that the ‘Rules’ were then still a part of the Communist program for the United States.

1. Corrupt the young, get them away from religion. Get them interested in sex. Make them superficial. Destroy their ruggedness.

2. Get control of all means of publicity.

3. Get people’s minds off their government by focusing their attention on athletics, sexy books and other trivialities.

4. Divide the people into hostile groups by constantly harping on controversial matters of no importance.

5. Destroy the people’s faith in their natural leaders by holding the latter up to contempt, ridicule and obloquy.

6. Always preach true democracy, but seize power as fast and as ruthlessly as possible.

7. By encouraging government extravagance, destroy its credit and produce fear of inflation with rising prices and general discontent.

8. Foment unnecessary strikes in vital industries, encourage civil disorders, and foster a lenient and soft attitude on the part of government toward such disorders.

9. By specious argument cause the breakdown of the old moral virtues, honesty, sobriety, continence, faith in the pledged word, ruggedness.

10. Cause the registration of all firearms on some pretext, with a view to confiscating them and leaving the populace helpless.

Now, stop and think — how many of these rules are being carried out in this nation today? I don’t see how any thinking person can truthfully say that the Communists do not have any part in the chaos that is upsetting our nation. Or is it just one big coincidence? I doubt it."

Tryptamine said: 

LiYang said: 

Tryptamine said:

by asking you to cite where he wrote the shit since you're slinging it around

Prove he didn't say it. You can't.

if you look into the image, you'll see it's basically a meme. closest thing alinsky wrote about was "13 rules for radicals" which was quite unlike the 8 rules to create a social state. of course even if i read all his books and knew all the content, me saying "yeah i know for sure he didn't talk about that" wouldn't matter because someone could just say i misunderstood some part or whatever. i think that there is a ton out there of people debunking the image and no real answer to that is proof enough for reasonable folk.

 

LiYang said:

I'm not slinging anything. I never said a word about the guy. Don't know the guy don't care about the guy.

you're literally posting the outlined steps to a social state attributed to him in an image, then using the said points in a "reminder of the leftist global plan" in your OP. the gravity of the points made in the article in the image is supposed to be given by them being authored by saul alinsky, who "died about 43 years ago, but his writing influenced those in political control of our nation today."

 

you can say, "well i don't care about the article's intentions, it had good points that still stand." well, not really if the point of what you're doing is to show that a plan is being followed out, when the metrics are just arbitrarily made up. it'd be like me saying the republicans are following "5 rules to ensure a fascist state"

 

1. control the medical system (remove reproductive rights/increase reliance on the private sector)

2. control the media narrative (discredit major outlets as "fake news")

3. subvert the democratic process (discredit electoral system)

4. subvert checks and balances (discredit members of branches such as the fbi and judicial system/remove appointed opposition)

5. fabricate conspiracy narratives of the opposition (push the narrative there's a hidden vaccine agenda to create hysteria)

 

it's easy to just say shit

 My point is these steps are obviously happening. Who wrote them is not important. What's up with you people getting fixated on some trivial detail that derails off on some bunny trail? WTF

I don't care if they were written by Stalin himself. Or Mickey Mouse. who fucking cares.

This is the meme of the meme. Narrow minded people not paying attention. Like autism or something.

The shit is happening, just like these similar rules for Communist takeover.

Communist Rules for Revolution

In May 1919 at Dusseldorf, Germany, the allied forces discovered a copy of these ‘Rules.’ They were first printed in the United States in the ‘Bartlesville (Oklahoma) Examiner-Enterprise’ the same year, 1919.

Almost 20 years later, in 1946, the attorney general of Florida obtained them from a known member of the Communist Party, who acknowledged that the ‘Rules’ were then still a part of the Communist program for the United States.

1. Corrupt the young, get them away from religion. Get them interested in sex. Make them superficial. Destroy their ruggedness.

2. Get control of all means of publicity.

3. Get people’s minds off their government by focusing their attention on athletics, sexy books and other trivialities.

4. Divide the people into hostile groups by constantly harping on controversial matters of no importance.

5. Destroy the people’s faith in their natural leaders by holding the latter up to contempt, ridicule and obloquy.

6. Always preach true democracy, but seize power as fast and as ruthlessly as possible.

7. By encouraging government extravagance, destroy its credit and produce fear of inflation with rising prices and general discontent.

8. Foment unnecessary strikes in vital industries, encourage civil disorders, and foster a lenient and soft attitude on the part of government toward such disorders.

9. By specious argument cause the breakdown of the old moral virtues, honesty, sobriety, continence, faith in the pledged word, ruggedness.

10. Cause the registration of all firearms on some pretext, with a view to confiscating them and leaving the populace helpless.

Now, stop and think — how many of these rules are being carried out in this nation today? I don’t see how any thinking person can truthfully say that the Communists do not have any part in the chaos that is upsetting our nation. Or is it just one big coincidence? I doubt it.

liyang have u ever been to a doctor?

LiYang said: 

 My point is these steps are obviously happening. Who wrote them is not important. What's up with you people getting fixated on some trivial detail that derails off on some bunny trail? WTF

I don't care if they were written by Stalin himself. Or Mickey Mouse. who fucking cares.

This is the meme of the meme. Narrow minded people not paying attention. Like autism or something.

The shit is happening, just like these similar rules for Communist takeover.

 Here's the full article from snopes that you left out:

Fact Checks
History
Is This List of ‘Communist Rules for Revolution’ Real?
A list of 'Communist Rules for Revolution' was supposedly discovered by Allied forces in Germany in 1919.
David Mikkelson
Published 17 August 2000

Origin
For several decades now, a list purportedly outlining “Communist Rules for Revolution” has been trotted out as proof that the current political climate is sending us all on a road to ruin:

Communist Rules for Revolution

In May 1919 at Dusseldorf, Germany, the allied forces discovered a copy of these ‘Rules.’ They were first printed in the United States in the ‘Bartlesville (Oklahoma) Examiner-Enterprise’ the same year, 1919.

Almost 20 years later, in 1946, the attorney general of Florida obtained them from a known member of the Communist Party, who acknowledged that the ‘Rules’ were then still a part of the Communist program for the United States.

1. Corrupt the young, get them away from religion. Get them interested in sex. Make them superficial. Destroy their ruggedness.

2. Get control of all means of publicity.

3. Get people’s minds off their government by focusing their attention on athletics, sexy books and other trivialities.

4. Divide the people into hostile groups by constantly harping on controversial matters of no importance.

5. Destroy the people’s faith in their natural leaders by holding the latter up to contempt, ridicule and obloquy.

6. Always preach true democracy, but seize power as fast and as ruthlessly as possible.

7. By encouraging government extravagance, destroy its credit and produce fear of inflation with rising prices and general discontent.

8. Foment unnecessary strikes in vital industries, encourage civil disorders, and foster a lenient and soft attitude on the part of government toward such disorders.

9. By specious argument cause the breakdown of the old moral virtues, honesty, sobriety, continence, faith in the pledged word, ruggedness.

10. Cause the registration of all firearms on some pretext, with a view to confiscating them and leaving the populace helpless.
Now, stop and think — how many of these rules are being carried out in this nation today? I don’t see how any thinking person can truthfully say that the Communists do not have any part in the chaos that is upsetting our nation. Or is it just one big coincidence? I doubt it.

A time-honored ploy in the political arena has been to discredit your opponents (and their ideas) by demonizing them, through associating them with … well, demons. In the modern era, this has usually meant claiming the ideas your opponents advocate were implemented by Nazis or Communists, or were recognized by them as means of “softening up” a country and making it ripe for totalitarian takeover. So, for example, if you believe the film industry should be more heavily regulated to prevent it from corrupting our youth, simply reference a supposed historical document in which Communists proclaim they were able to seize power in Russia because the previous government had allowed callow youth to idle away their time watching “immoral movies,” and your point is irrefutably made.

As reproduced in the example above, one purportedly genuine document of such ilk is a list of “Communist Rules for Revolution” which is typically claimed to have been discovered “in May 1919 at Dusseldorf, Germany, by allied forces” and “first printed in the United States” in the Bartlesville, Oklahoma Examiner-Enterprise. Aside from the fact that the Examiner-Enterprise is a real newspaper, none of this rings true. Language about getting the young “interested in sex” and focusing their attention on “sexy books” and fretting about the “registration of all firearms” sounds out of place for 1919 (as this Ngram chart shows, “sexy” is a word one was far more likely to have encountered in America during the post-World War II era than in 1919), and not surprisingly, nobody has ever managed to turn up the mysterious issue of Examiner-Enterprise that supposedly printed this list.

When columnist Bob Greene checked out the “Communist Rules for Revolution” with Russian specialists at the University of Chicago and Northwestern University in the mid-1980s, they said the list was “a total fraud,” “an obvious fabrication,” and “an implausible concoction of American fears and phobias.” Greene also observed: “I always wanted to meet a communist who was carrying the list around, so I could ask him what ‘obloquy’ means.”

When The New York Times ran an article on the “Communist Rules for Revolution” back in 1970, it had already been circulating for about twenty-five years. The Times reported that neither the National Archives, the Library of Congress, nor university libraries had a copy of any such document. When Montana senator Lee Metcalf looked into the issue back then, he checked with the FBI, CIA, and the Senate Internal Security Subcommittee; he found that “exhaustive research” had proved the rules to be “completely spurious,” and he declared that “the extreme right also follows rules, one of which is to make maximum use of false, misleading and fear-inspiring quotations.”

Nonetheless, numerous members of congress have received copies of the Communist “rules” list from alarmed constituents over the years and, believing that nobody else was yet aware of them, have inserted them into the Congressional Record. This list has also been reproduced in many newspaper columns and letters to the editor.

The earliest known publication of these “Communist Rules for Revolution” dates from February 1946, and it’s significant to note that publication coincided with events such as Winston Churchill’s famous “Iron Curtain” speech, in which he issued a warning to citizens of the United States that “Communist parties constitute a growing challenge and peril to Christian civilization.” The timing suggests it’s far more likely this list was compiled by Americans in 1946 than by Russians in 1919.

Circulation of this list really took off during the height of the Cold War in 1954, the same year that a military defeat by Viet Minh Communists forced the French out of Indochina, and Senator Joseph McCarthy charged that communists had infiltrated the CIA and the atomic weapons industry. That year was when Florida state attorney George A. Brautigam endorsed the document as genuine, and for many years afterward, printed versions of the list included Brautigam’s statement of its authenticity and reproduced his signature at the bottom.

Even though the Soviet Union has long since ceased to be, and the number of Communist countries remaining in the world can be counted on the fingers of one hand, the “Communist Rules for Revolution” are still anachronistically cited as evidence that America is experiencing moral and political decay fostered by outside forces. As folklorist Jan Harold Brunvand wrote of this piece back in 1986:

The rules have to do with dividing people into hostile groups, encouraging government extravagance, and fomenting “unnecessary” strikes in vital industries. What we have lost, the list suggests, is a world without dissent, budget deficits, inflation and labor unrest.

I just can’t remember any such Golden Age.

Recent Updates

David Mikkelson
Published 17 August 2000
Updated 20 July 2021
Documentary Evidence
Sources
Boller. Paul F., Jr., and John George. They Never Said It.
New York: Oxford Univ. Press, 1989 ISBN 0-19-506469-0 (p. 114-116).

Brunvand, Jan Harold. “Reds’ Plan to Conquer: Just Fable.”
The San Diego Union-Tribune. 5 January 1989 (p. D2).

Brunvand, Jan Harold. The Mexican Pet.
New York: W. W. Norton, 1986. ISBN 0-393-30542-2 (pp. 108-109).

Stark, Joy. “Communism Is Still Alive and Threatening All of Us.”
The [Bloomington] Pantagraph. 28 August 1999 (p. A14).

Janson, Donald. “Communist ‘Rules’ for Revolt Viewed As Durable Fraud.”
The New York Times. 10 July 1970 (p. A8).