I am here to recount my experience with him throughout my time on socio. I first talked to him when I learned he spent time living with Tryptamine. I thought he could tell me more about him (my at the time beloved). He didn't trust me so I tried to show him my intentions were pure for Tryptamine. I showed him how I gave Tryp a bit of money to help him out. It turns out he used this information to try to paint Tryptamine as a gold digger. The worst part was that he leaked it without my consent.
From my end it looked like you trying to stage a fight between him and I with him and I falling sucker for the bait. As this went on further and further you kept trying to stoke the fires, and for a while it worked.
I only found out when things had been misconstrued in "telephone pms". Tryptamine was mad at me of course and almost broke up with me. I started to think Tc had a plot to separate me from Trypt.
What do you mean 'started to', back then I was outright warning people. You'd then run to Tryp to say what I'd said, then you'd run to me to tell me what he's saying, and you served as a catalyst to escalate it.
After I'd already finished the warning you showed me that the day of the lending to further push things along, then relished at the ensuing drama that followed. It's your M.O. to try to pit other people against each other and that hasn't changed about you, so all this could even be is more cover story from a documented liar.
Then he just brushed it off as "not trusting my persona narrative”.
Do you not remember the topics where the majority of the forum was 'wtf'-ing at me over not trusting you? I decided to try trusting you anyway around the time you began narrating the Tryp situation in such a way as to garner sympathy (it worked), but then learned after the fact that my gut was right initially: You're not to be trusted.
With your idea of 'assumptions' as you narrated in your argument with Alena, how can we even trust any of this?
News flash... not trusting me doesn't give the right to leak. Then I came up with the idea that Tc never cared about me. I speculated he was just info mining to learn about Tryp.
It was warning someone that I didn't notice was the one who actually had the upper hand.
I felt as if when I would try to avoid that topic and have a separate relationship without involving Tryptamine he would bring it back to Tryp.
You were the one who kept bringing him up, from what I'd assume is related to you knowing at that point in our talks that it'd get my attention.
There narrative where he asks for "proof" to prove yourself... Yet then if you give proof he uses it against you, or at least uses it in a way you did not intend. All he has to say is "I don't trust you" to manipulate you to give out information about oneself. Then you feel the urge to "prove yourself" as he plays you like a puppet.
What?
But I don't trust you and continue to not trust you, with an example under my belt that more than shows how exhausting you are to deal with. I have no reason to trust you at all, and you overtime continue to show that to be the right way to go.
That is one of his ploys that he uses even if he knows 1) Providing evidence would betray someone or, 2) provided evidence will be twisted to fit his story.
You started these talks though, wtf?
I'm definitely guilty years ago for trying to warn you in accordance to those he'd already been with at that point, I am not denying intervening in that way, but when I'd talk about it you'd present examples without me asking for them.
Did you just... 'assume' I asked? I was delivering a warning, during a time I was on record in an overtly obvious way as campaigning against 'The Terrors of Tryp' back when that shit still felt relevant, I didn't need more info with how much I'd already had.
Turncoat kept talking to me telling me not to confide in tryptamine claiming tryptamine gathers so much info to persecute.
I actually went on about how he formed social groupthink clusters, it was spooky to watch in action back then for how effective it was. He did a two to three degrees of separation approach to having information spread down the grapevine, having those he's spoken with already work as incidental reinforcers of the ideas he'd been spreading around.
I have otherwise in general gone on about how he does that, and I mean... was I wrong? While he doesn't seem to do it anymore, back then and for a while he had a nasty habit of airing out his grievances with them when he felt crossed, and he could do that while in the drink. He takes notes on those he's reading/listening to and reserves his opinion for once he's mad at them.
I knew he was projecting real hard. Then he told me he had spent time with Systematic recently in person. But, Systematic told me they hadn't spent time in person in a long while. Coincidence? Or different perspective?
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I don't know... but his greatest trick was claiming not to trust people. Then using their trust against them.
Or I don't trust you, do you not normally have to sit with people telling you that they don't trust you?
Even now this feels like you trying to get Tryp to attack me, again, over years old news we've both moved on from.
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