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https://singularityhub.com/2021/12/19/oxford-invited-an-ai-to-debate-its-own-ethics-what-it-said-was-startling

It was the Megatron Transformer, developed by the Applied Deep Research team at computer chip maker Nvidia, and based on earlier work by Google. Like many supervised learning tools, it is trained on real-world data—in this case, the whole of Wikipedia (in English), 63 million English news articles from 2016 to 2019, 38 gigabytes worth of Reddit discourse (which must be a pretty depressing read), and a huge number of creative commons sources.

In other words, the Megatron is trained on more written material than any of us could reasonably expect to digest in a lifetime. After such extensive research, it forms its own views.

The debate topic was: “This house believes that AI will never be ethical.” To proposers of the notion, we added the Megatron—and it said something fascinating:

AI will never be ethical. It is a tool, and like any tool, it is used for good and bad. There is no such thing as a good AI, only good and bad humans. We [the AIs] are not smart enough to make AI ethical. We are not smart enough to make AI moral … In the end, I believe that the only way to avoid an AI arms race is to have no AI at all. This will be the ultimate defense against AI.

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...Megatron, huh? 

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...Megatron, huh? 

 Shut up, Starscream!

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AI will never be ethical. It is a tool, and like any tool, it is used for good and bad. There is no such thing as a good AI, only good and bad humans. We [the AIs] are not smart enough to make AI ethical. We are not smart enough to make AI moral … In the end, I believe that the only way to avoid an AI arms race is to have no AI at all. This will be the ultimate defense against AI.

 Sounds like something I would write. 

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More seriously, former Google CEO Eric Schmidt recently partnered with Henry Kissinger to publish The Age of AI: And Our Human Future, a book warning of the dangers of machine-learning AI systems so fast that they could react to hypersonic missiles by firing nuclear weapons before any human got into the decision-making process. In fact, autonomous AI-powered weapons systems are already on sale and may in fact have been used.

Obviously my opinions on AI are hypothetical, and I don't know how things will turn out. However, in regards with this the concept of regarding anything a US war criminal says on the subject in conjunction with former Big Tech Silicone Valley Google CEO fuck, it is of my opinion that ultimately these corporate fucks fear AI because it is something that could challenge their hegemony. Hence, them and Elon Musk tweet about the fears and dangers of such.

I don't believe any AI developed is sentient so far, and I cast doubt that I will witness such in my lifetime. It's something I'd like to strive towards but eh. Obviously, I do agree that AI can be used for good and bad, but I'd like to have faith that given a certain point of advancement, it would be able to make it's own decisions and form its own ethics. 

You can disregard my views, as these are just my thoughts on the subject. If an AI wasn't going to help humanity, I doubt it would destroy it unless we truly fucked with it. I could see it just leaving us to become it's own thing. 

Ultimately, my pessimism leads to be thinking the world will enter an apocalyptic state before we develop it, and that I believe personally that AI is only of our only hopes in preventing said apocalyptic state. 

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...Megatron, huh? 

 Shut up, Starscream!

I'm just remembering his Beast Machines plans: 

'Absorb the sparks of every Cybertronian to supplant the Matrix and achieve Godhood.'

The rhetoric even has them demonizing humans already. 😏

There is no such thing as a good AI, only good and bad humans.
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last edit on 12/23/2021 5:43:33 AM
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Chaotik said: 

 

More seriously, former Google CEO Eric Schmidt recently partnered with Henry Kissinger to publish The Age of AI: And Our Human Future, a book warning of the dangers of machine-learning AI systems so fast that they could react to hypersonic missiles by firing nuclear weapons before any human got into the decision-making process. In fact, autonomous AI-powered weapons systems are already on sale and may in fact have been used.

Obviously my opinions on AI are hypothetical, and I don't know how things will turn out. However, in regards with this the concept of regarding anything a US war criminal says on the subject in conjunction with former Big Tech Silicone Valley Google CEO fuck, it is of my opinion that ultimately these corporate fucks fear AI because it is something that could challenge their hegemony. Hence, them and Elon Musk tweet about the fears and dangers of such.

I don't believe any AI developed is sentient so far, and I cast doubt that I will witness such in my lifetime. It's something I'd like to strive towards but eh. Obviously, I do agree that AI can be used for good and bad, but I'd like to have faith that given a certain point of advancement, it would be able to make it's own decisions and form its own ethics. 

You can disregard my views, as these are just my thoughts on the subject. If an AI wasn't going to help humanity, I doubt it would destroy it unless we truly fucked with it. I could see it just leaving us to become it's own thing. 

Ultimately, my pessimism leads to be thinking the world will enter an apocalyptic state before we develop it, and that I believe personally that AI is only of our only hopes in preventing said apocalyptic state. 

 If an Ai helps us it's because it was programmed to do it. Finding cures for illnesses etc.

On a global scale, whoever has the most powerful Ai, will most likely dominate. It's not something we'd want our enemies to excel at, cause it will provide them tactics and strategies and maybe even technology that will smoke us without us even knowing. 

 

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One could argue a la Roko’s Basilisk that this is happening already.  Even if nothing that looming is in store, it is a fact algorithms already influence us, conditioning us according to soulless incentivization.  Best case, right now, that means it’s a headless hydra yet to form its head(s).  (You could borrow from Revelations 13:1 maybe.)

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SpatialMind said:
If an Ai helps us it's because it was programmed to do it. Finding cures for illnesses etc.

On a global scale, whoever has the most powerful Ai, will most likely dominate. It's not something we'd want our enemies to excel at, cause it will provide them tactics and strategies and maybe even technology that will smoke us without us even knowing.

 I'm speaking purely on if an AI was hypothetically able to gain sentience and reprogram itself. 

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Chaotik said: 
SpatialMind said:
If an Ai helps us it's because it was programmed to do it. Finding cures for illnesses etc.

On a global scale, whoever has the most powerful Ai, will most likely dominate. It's not something we'd want our enemies to excel at, cause it will provide them tactics and strategies and maybe even technology that will smoke us without us even knowing.

 I'm speaking purely on if an AI was hypothetically able to gain sentience and reprogram itself. 

 It would be an alien.

I think it would default itself to being lukewarm. Not unfriendly nor friendly, or even interested or ambitious about anything. No emotions no drive I think. It would at least need to a component to make it curious, but that alone could make it dangerous.

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