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I am not a good person

I try to do the right thing when most people pick the easy/winning/socially acceptable side.

Turncoat said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

Yes. Because I do good things. 

I'm sure making fun of Delora by painting scenarios of BR moving on to other chicks is the mark of a good person. 

Honestly.... I think SpatialMind did it with good intentions. It's good for Delora's character development, in my opinion..

Turncoat said:

What is it that you think has so many of us reluctant to call ourselves good people?

It seems like only people like Spatial'd dare to say something that bold.

I suppose it depends on the person.. I've bullied, lied, caused harm, had bad thoughts about people, cheated, stolen, violated, manipulated, and I know far too much to ever be considered innocent.

Perhaps it's the Christian influence... That we're all sinners.

Chaotik said:

I find myself more grey. I can be quite cruel and harsh to some, but for the most part I am just a flat neutral. I can be a dick to my friends in a banter sort of way where we all crack jokes at each other, and in that regard people see me as an asshole but they love me and we all laugh, there are times where I have made people cry though, mainly if its like where something happened and I'm feeling bitter and they're annoying me, then I'll lash out at them, like some girls in the past that were obsessed with me, I kind of got tired of it, and started acting aggressive towards them.

I think my dreams in life will paint me as a grey person, it just depends on if I act on my impulses and some of the intrusive fucked shit that I sometimes fantasize about or not.

I think I could be terrible based on the thoughts I get towards people around me, even if those are just thoughts, and to the animal rights activist, they'd be upset that I tortured and killed mice and toads, but I only kill mice now if they're caught on a glue trap.

My friends seem to view me as a morally good person, and some look up to me as a role model, so it's whatever. If I had an alignment of some dnd bullshit, I'd say maybe chaotic good, idfk it's kind of cringe to try to label as such. I haven't lived enough really to tell.

Thought crime. I find the concept fascinating. Have you ever read 1984? It's a fantastic novel. If you've ever dabbled in buddhism, they have a lot of stuff about how to have a `clean` mind. I believe in it. I believe that by training your mind you can become a good person. If you really, really want to dedicate yourself to it. It's all about thinking about good things about other people.

You're an interesting human, Chaotik. I think you will never leave your hometown... But I think you'd make for a good writer. If you had some ability to think... past your belly. It requires imagination, which you have. Dedication.. maybe not so much. I think you have potential to do great things in life. I think you will waste the potential, but I could be wrong... It's not my place to say. You should read the great Schopenhauer's works. I think western buddhism with a gloomy twist would suit you.

I think Good is good, for the moment. Maybe later, not so much. I admire his dedication to his principles, though... I wonder if I was like that if I would consider myself good...? I've probably done too many things in my life that I regret that I wouldn't. I'd just be... atoning?

I have this recurring dream... where one day all my sins are washed away and I am "clean" like a baby. I live my life happily, without worries, and everything and everyone around me is perfect. When I'm encountered with evil, I simply wave my hand, and it vanishes. I hope one day I become delusional and really think that way. I'm entertaining the possibility of spiraling myself into madness... I have no doubt in my mind I could achieve that. I'm just not convinced.... it's worth it. Perhaps sometimes it's good to be miserable, to be reminded of the contrast.

Feathers said: 

I am a not a good person. 

Psalm 143:2 Do not bring your servant into judgment, for no one living is righteous before you.

Ecclesiastes 7:20 Indeed, there is no one on earth who is righteous, no one who does what is right and never sins.

Romans 3:10-12 As it is written: “There is no one righteous, not even one; there is no one who understands; there is no one who seeks God. All have turned away, they have together become worthless; there is no one who does good, not even one.”

Romans 3:20 Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God’s sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin.

Isaiah 64:6 All of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away.

Will add more~

Feathers, you're one of the few people here that I'd call good. You're setting an impossible standard for me.

tpp said: 

Turncoat said:

What is it that you think has so many of us reluctant to call ourselves good people?

Perhaps it's the Christian influence... That we're all sinners.

It definitely speaks from the mindset of Slave Morality, rather than Master Morality. 

Life ought to be handled over what is Good and Bad, not what is Good and Evil. 

tpp said: 

Feathers said: 

I am a not a good person. 

Psalm 143:2 Do not bring your servant into judgment, for no one living is righteous before you.

Ecclesiastes 7:20 Indeed, there is no one on earth who is righteous, no one who does what is right and never sins.

Romans 3:10-12 As it is written: “There is no one righteous, not even one; there is no one who understands; there is no one who seeks God. All have turned away, they have together become worthless; there is no one who does good, not even one.”

Romans 3:20 Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God’s sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin.

Isaiah 64:6 All of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away.

Will add more~

Feathers, you're one of the few people here that I'd call good. You're setting an impossible standard for me.

Lol. I don't mean shame you. I'm saying we all fail God's perfect standard and from *His perspective* we fail a lot (needing forgiveness). In human terms I could be considered good. 

I will say this much... I try to live by a code and treat everyone as an image bearer of God. I want to help people with my career goals, financially (at times), emotionally and spiritually. I feel for people and sometimes wonder if I could have ended up like them if I was living in their shoes. I know logically I have to take care of my own needs first or the toll on me will be too great to maximize the good I can bring. I need to cater to my own physical, emotional and spiritual wellness before I can share. "An empty cup cannot fill another" so I need to make sure I have enough to share.

Though, I have limits (e.i. spouse and future child). I would go to extremes for them if I have to (or feel that I have to). It's possible I would even disregard the laws to protect those dearest to me. Not every criminal is a sociopath... sometimes its extreme empathy that leads to crimes. You can image some traits from Yuno Gasai from Future Diary, Love from the show You, and Lum from Urusei Yatsura. 

21 Pilot's lyrics sums it up pretty well. 

"Who would you live and die for on that list? But, the problem is, there's another list that exists And no one really wants to think about this: Forget sanity, forget salary, forget vanity, my morality if you get in between someone I love and me you're gonna feel the heat of my cavalry".

tpp said: 

I don't. I believe I've sinned too much. I feel like my sin is "knowledge," much like the original sin. I feel like I should bang my head with a hammer so that I can become a good person again. If I were braindead, I would likely be... a better person than I am now.

Yet, somehow, I want to be a good person. But I can't. It's impossible. My existence is hell.

Maybe I deserve it for being such a bad person and for knowing so many things. Bad tpp. Woof woof. Also maybe I shouldn't have stolen, lied, and violated people all my life. That was also not good.

I feel like my sin is weighing on me. I want to apologize... but what's the point? I'll do it again anyway.

 I don't think people are good or bad, inherently. I think we're as good or bad as our last action.

By that definition, I'm currently bad, but can redeem myself fairly easily lel

what was ur last action