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what a sexist implication. of course men are useful. without sperm everyone is fucked, and even then- 

to imply that any part of our population of fellow humans is any more or less useful due to sex is sexist, and that includes men. as humans, we need to work together towards a better future, and be wary of self division. division equates to weakness and distraction from working together to sculpt a better tomorrow for our descendants. why focus on such petty things? we are not children.

 

 Well said Deloris.

We've yet to create life other than procreating. A sperm is made fresh, and on the spot millions and million of tiny living things are made right there on there on the scene. Sperm is sacred stuff. Only a male can do that at this point in time to say the lest.

I'll be 44 soon and never in my lifetime has a woman living in the west not had it good. Women have it better than men do in my opinion.

 a woman here can be able to sadly not have it good I have seen so, but otherwise-

yes yes yes yes yes yes yes. and thank you

 True. But I mean, women have more programs that are supportive of them, while men do not.

There is no men's centre for men in need, and we get arrested easier, and we get killed more. It isn't even a big deal whenever threads like this are made, no one really cares. Of course I'm somewhat entertained by it but still. Men really have to watch out these days or else he could end up in a cell over nothing.

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what a sexist implication. of course men are useful. without sperm everyone is fucked, and even then- 

to imply that any part of our population of fellow humans is any more or less useful due to sex is sexist, and that includes men. as humans, we need to work together towards a better future, and be wary of self division. division equates to weakness and distraction from working together to sculpt a better tomorrow for our descendants. why focus on such petty things? we are not children.

 

 Well said Deloris.

We've yet to create life other than procreating. A sperm is made fresh, and on the spot millions and million of tiny living things are made right there on there on the scene. Sperm is sacred stuff. Only a male can do that at this point in time to say the lest.

I'll be 44 soon and never in my lifetime has a woman living in the west not had it good. Women have it better than men do in my opinion.

 a woman here can be able to sadly not have it good I have seen so, but otherwise-

yes yes yes yes yes yes yes. and thank you

 True. But I mean, women have more programs that are supportive of them, while men do not.

There is no men's centre for men in need, and we get arrested easier, and we get killed more. It isn't even a big deal whenever threads like this are made, no one really cares. Of course I'm somewhat entertained by it but still. Men really have to watch out these days or else he could end up in a cell over nothing.

 Lmao 

Men don't have centers because they tend to benefit more than women. Y'all get arrested easier cos y'all commiting crimes the most and you get killed more due to other men killing you. Homeless Shelters have more makes than females and on the chance there's a female shelter open you all complain. All men do is complain complain complain. Its boring 

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Sure there are women in these fields, and they are respected by men for working like one, buy these women are so far and few in between they won't accommodate the demand for them.

Uhh..?

In 2019, there were 76,852,000 women aged 16 and over in the labor force, representing close to half (47.0%) of the total labor force.22

57.4% of women participated in the labor force, compared to 69.2% of men

We'd be seeing an issue if either gender left the workforce while both genders continued to exist, but if Men were suddenly Rapture'd off of the planet there'd also be that many less people to consider needing to support. 

Technology is to us, what nectar is to the bee.

More like men in history stole credit for multiple female inventions, similar to the classic Tesla + Edison story, and more like Men, as a byproduct of societal norms and beliefs, tend to score better in Math. 

Check Australia and you'll see results like this: 

Girls just as good at maths and science

We wanted to see if there were gender differences in school performance when it came to science and maths and whether these affected students’ university applications.

Our study used data of more than 70,000 secondary school students in Greece over ten years.

We found girls’ scores in maths and science were around 4% higher than boys. But their scores in humanities subjects were around 13% higher.

We also found girls were 34% less likely to chose a STEM-related specialisation in their last years of high school.

These findings can be translated to Australia. According to the latest results from the OECD’s Programme for International Student Assessment (PISA), girls in Australia perform on a similar level to boys in maths and science, but at a much higher level in reading.

 

When it no longer works we'll turn savage against one another while the population decreases.

Population decreases won't be the end of us with 'how far we've come' in that area, and how would we turn savage without a heightened Testosterone count? 😛

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last edit on 11/30/2021 12:01:58 AM
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Yeah other men killing us and dying on the job, front line in the Marine core, suicides, shorter life expectancy etc.

And you're being hypocritical cause you're complaining about 1 month where men encourage supporting prostate cancer research.

lol I tell you the future for manhood is looking grim.

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what a sexist implication. of course men are useful. without sperm everyone is fucked, and even then- 

We're working on it. 

Considering how they already know how to combine eggs and are otherwise working on how to fertilize without the help of a male, Science will be the catalyst of men's obsolescence down the line. 

to imply that any part of our population of fellow humans is any more or less useful due to sex is sexist, and that includes men.

So you're saying that if we rid of the men that we'd have the same problems? 

I'm willing to test that hypothesis by ridding of the men so that we can see what occurs. 😁

as humans, we need to work together towards a better future, and be wary of self division.

That's too idealistic, we're better off sterilizing the men through male beauty products like Axe Body Spray. 

division equates to weakness and distraction from working together to sculpt a better tomorrow for our descendants. why focus on such petty things? we are not children.

Even when you're dividing from an overpopulated model? 

We've got upkeeps to worry about, the planet would be that much better off without half of humans, so why not have that half be men? 

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last edit on 11/30/2021 12:19:13 AM
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0 votes RE: Do we need Men in 2022?

Yeah other men killing us and dying on the job, front line in the Marine core, suicides, shorter life expectancy etc.

Men do the most violence and reduce life expectancy through stress bottling, women are clearly ahead of the curve when it comes to understanding matters of peace by the simple merits of patience and increased mental functioning. 

And you're being hypocritical cause you're complaining about 1 month where men encourage supporting prostate cancer research.

Men's Mental Health month is about their prostate? Is that where the brain is for them? 

lol I tell you the future for manhood is looking grim.

I for one welcome our new overlords. 

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Lenalee said: 
Lenalee said: 

If men suddenly stopped working.

- Electricity will stop flowing and all electronic devices will turn against us by doing nothing. This alone is a long list. 

- Water will stop flowing. As hard labor is required to maintain these systems. 

- Construction of new houses and buildings will cease. This will cause properties to skyrocket where only the filthy rich can afford to buy or rent one.

- Food supply will dramatically decrease while the grocery stores will be cleaned out, they will have low employment for such reasoning. Food delivery will also cease.

- Gasoline, gone. Refining gasoline from crude oil, gone.

- Transport and deliver gone.

Sure there are women in these fields, and they are respected by men for working like one, buy these women are so far and few in between they won't accommodate the demand for them.

Technology is to us, what nectar is to the bee. When it no longer works we'll turn savage against one another while the population decreases.

So when you bathe, or have a glass of that sweet government juice fresh from the tap. Or when it's gotten dark so you light up the bulb and play some Nintendo. Remember all of that magic is going on because there are men you don't even know behind the curtain making it.... Possible.  

 Lmao shut up bb, these jobs aren't as hard as you're making them out to be. Women took up "hard male" jobs in the war and thrived.  These are all jobs where the skill is taught. Literally all of these. The reason these jobs are traditionally male is because it's sexist as fuck, they generally tend to see women as weaker than and prefer to hire males. I've worked in the refinery industry, it is not hard. Operating a crane? Just be good at maths, have a steady hand and look to your flaggers.

These are not as hard as you think they are. Most of these jobs are literally sitting down behind a scada system. 

There are women wanting to enter these fields 

 I worked in construction twice. The first one was electrical work. Fishing the power cables through the concrete walls of a new police station by the airport. It sounds like a piece of cake but no. The cables were long, and rolled up and heavy as fuck.

In the morning I would retrieve them from a locked shipping container. Instead of using a dolly I had to stack them in a wheel barrel cause I would have to haul them across a construction field which is basically hills of dirt and soil.

Once I made it to the building I had to park it, then haul each roll up the stairs to where it's needed. It had to be done quickly as copper wiring is an expensive material with high liquidity and prone to theft even in broad daylight on construction zones. 

When the wires were braided and lubricated and ready to pass through these tubes ( which is another story within itself ) sometimes it would require 3 of us to pull the wires through, depending on the distance, whatever the case we'd be hauling ass all day, 5 days a week.

The majority do not operate cranes or other heavy lifting machines.

There was also 1 woman on the entire site. Blond blue eyed and very friendly. She wore a hard hat as required to do on site, but I really don't know what she did there. She was always clean while the rest of us were dirty.

Do I think women can't do this ? I don't see them sustaining, women break easier, and quite frankly, women DO NOT want to do this. Even for this project the company I worked for ended up getting sued for not being able to complete the work on the contracts deadline, this happens a lot on construction sites.

The 2nd construction job was much easier. We renovated a large industrial building into a storage facility, so lots of cutting metal framing and we used power tools to bolt the framing for the drywall. It sounds simple but it's non stop all day.

Do I see women doing this job ? If she wants to make a point sure, but construction isn't something women jump at when the opportunity to work there comes about, most women really can't do this or else they will suffer permanent injury much quicker than the guys do.

 She was probably an inspector, tbh but even then women tend to be more conscious of safety and don't tend to bitch as much as men do because they don't want to be seen as weaker. I've worked in construction too, in both residential and commercial. I live for men telling me how vewy hard it is and how they can't imagine a woman doing it while there are a bunch of women doing exactly what they do and not complaining about how they have to push a wheel barrow up a dirt mound/hill. Its absolute peak comedy.

You seem to think saying nonstop is like a deterrent. As if women would need to take more breaks than men, as if I haven't seen men take up smoking just to get an extra break. This is coming off kinda sexist tony and frankly, i am disappointed.

Is construction work in Canada as fucking backwards as it is in the US? 

At least here it's glorified sitting around to justify union wages thanks to getting paid by the hour, watching it take months to repair a road that'd take Japan an afternoon. Considering that Japanese people from the looks of it had their T-counts go down from what I'd presume is the aftermath of centuries of banning the consumption of meat (with Science backing this at a tested average of 14% testosterone reduction in reported males who dropped meat from their diet overall in just one lifetime... it could be more for Japan), I'd argue that they are a useful model for what we might expect from raising the estrogen rates in the workforce. 

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last edit on 11/30/2021 12:31:43 AM
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Lenalee said:
You seem to think saying nonstop is like a deterrent. As if women would need to take more breaks than men, as if I haven't seen men take up smoking just to get an extra break. This is coming off kinda sexist tony and frankly, i am disappointed.

Women generally have better stamina and energy regulation anyway, while Men tend to be better at burst activities. Men are the sprinters while women are the marathon runners, men can pull a truck for a small duration of time while women can more readily withstand being hit by said truck. We even see in trials where both men and women are working on bodybuilding that men are statistically more likely to pull a muscle and hurt themselves. 

In a society where women and men are treated as peers rather than primary and secondary citizens, when the traits of nurture die out with newer generations being raised identically to one another grow into the new adults, we should begin to see female potential truly flourish without the myths that hold them back during their more formative stages while subsequently reinforced in belief for the rest of their lives. 

Learned Helplessness should not be a gender issue. 

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last edit on 11/30/2021 12:41:56 AM
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Lenalee said: 
Lenalee said: 

If men suddenly stopped working.

- Electricity will stop flowing and all electronic devices will turn against us by doing nothing. This alone is a long list. 

- Water will stop flowing. As hard labor is required to maintain these systems. 

- Construction of new houses and buildings will cease. This will cause properties to skyrocket where only the filthy rich can afford to buy or rent one.

- Food supply will dramatically decrease while the grocery stores will be cleaned out, they will have low employment for such reasoning. Food delivery will also cease.

- Gasoline, gone. Refining gasoline from crude oil, gone.

- Transport and deliver gone.

Sure there are women in these fields, and they are respected by men for working like one, buy these women are so far and few in between they won't accommodate the demand for them.

Technology is to us, what nectar is to the bee. When it no longer works we'll turn savage against one another while the population decreases.

So when you bathe, or have a glass of that sweet government juice fresh from the tap. Or when it's gotten dark so you light up the bulb and play some Nintendo. Remember all of that magic is going on because there are men you don't even know behind the curtain making it.... Possible.  

 Lmao shut up bb, these jobs aren't as hard as you're making them out to be. Women took up "hard male" jobs in the war and thrived.  These are all jobs where the skill is taught. Literally all of these. The reason these jobs are traditionally male is because it's sexist as fuck, they generally tend to see women as weaker than and prefer to hire males. I've worked in the refinery industry, it is not hard. Operating a crane? Just be good at maths, have a steady hand and look to your flaggers.

These are not as hard as you think they are. Most of these jobs are literally sitting down behind a scada system. 

There are women wanting to enter these fields 

 I worked in construction twice. The first one was electrical work. Fishing the power cables through the concrete walls of a new police station by the airport. It sounds like a piece of cake but no. The cables were long, and rolled up and heavy as fuck.

In the morning I would retrieve them from a locked shipping container. Instead of using a dolly I had to stack them in a wheel barrel cause I would have to haul them across a construction field which is basically hills of dirt and soil.

Once I made it to the building I had to park it, then haul each roll up the stairs to where it's needed. It had to be done quickly as copper wiring is an expensive material with high liquidity and prone to theft even in broad daylight on construction zones. 

When the wires were braided and lubricated and ready to pass through these tubes ( which is another story within itself ) sometimes it would require 3 of us to pull the wires through, depending on the distance, whatever the case we'd be hauling ass all day, 5 days a week.

The majority do not operate cranes or other heavy lifting machines.

There was also 1 woman on the entire site. Blond blue eyed and very friendly. She wore a hard hat as required to do on site, but I really don't know what she did there. She was always clean while the rest of us were dirty.

Do I think women can't do this ? I don't see them sustaining, women break easier, and quite frankly, women DO NOT want to do this. Even for this project the company I worked for ended up getting sued for not being able to complete the work on the contracts deadline, this happens a lot on construction sites.

The 2nd construction job was much easier. We renovated a large industrial building into a storage facility, so lots of cutting metal framing and we used power tools to bolt the framing for the drywall. It sounds simple but it's non stop all day.

Do I see women doing this job ? If she wants to make a point sure, but construction isn't something women jump at when the opportunity to work there comes about, most women really can't do this or else they will suffer permanent injury much quicker than the guys do.

 She was probably an inspector, tbh but even then women tend to be more conscious of safety and don't tend to bitch as much as men do because they don't want to be seen as weaker. I've worked in construction too, in both residential and commercial. I live for men telling me how vewy hard it is and how they can't imagine a woman doing it while there are a bunch of women doing exactly what they do and not complaining about how they have to push a wheel barrow up a dirt mound/hill. Its absolute peak comedy.

You seem to think saying nonstop is like a deterrent. As if women would need to take more breaks than men, as if I haven't seen men take up smoking just to get an extra break. This is coming off kinda sexist tony and frankly, i am disappointed.

Is construction work in Canada as fucking backwards as it is in the US? 

At least here it's glorified sitting around to justify union wages thanks to getting paid by the hour, watching it take months to repair a road that'd take Japan an afternoon. Considering that Japanese people from the looks of it had their T-counts go down from what I'd presume is the aftermath of centuries of banning the consumption of meat (with Science backing this at a tested average of 14% testosterone reduction in reported males who dropped meat from their diet overall in just one lifetime... it could be more for Japan), I'd argue that they are a useful model for what we might expect from raising the estrogen rates in the workforce. 

 Says the unpaid sloth that spends his time arguing on the internet while taking in welfare checks. If we are gonna get rid of anyone, people like you are gonna go first.

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0 votes RE: Do we need Men in 2022?

what a sexist implication. of course men are useful. without sperm everyone is fucked, and even then- 

to imply that any part of our population of fellow humans is any more or less useful due to sex is sexist, and that includes men. as humans, we need to work together towards a better future, and be wary of self division. division equates to weakness and distraction from working together to sculpt a better tomorrow for our descendants. why focus on such petty things? we are not children.

 Well said Deloris.

We've yet to create life other than procreating. A sperm is made fresh, and on the spot millions and million of tiny living things are made right there on there on the scene. Sperm is sacred stuff. Only a male can do that at this point in time to say the lest.

I'll be 44 soon and never in my lifetime has a woman living in the west not had it good. Women have it better than men do in my opinion.

 a woman here can be able to sadly not have it good I have seen so, but otherwise-

yes yes yes yes yes yes yes. and thank you

 True. But I mean, women have more programs that are supportive of them, while men do not.

The majority of these programs are aiming to undo the damages society's put into the female mind, yet ends up proliferating the same issues. As a prime example we have "Women's Self Defense" programs; They started off as helpful but ultimately enable the 'Men are stronger' mentality, something you don't see embellished upon in more traditional martial forms. 

Men also typically do not attend these programs when they do exist out of a sense of personal shame, while women understand that such vulnerability is a factor of communication. We see MGTOW types try to complain about how women have more support networks but that's moreover how whenever they make male-only support groups that the attendance can become laughable. 

There is no men's centre for men in need, and we get arrested easier, and we get killed more.

Want to know why? 

Testosterone's the squeaky wheel here. Because of our worst among the gender all men must suffer for it just like how women are constantly being compared to their weaker expressions as if that were the norm. 

If women have to look helpless, then men have to look out of control. It's what happens when you take the extremes of each as if they were the norm and women face significantly more flak over this shit than men do. Men get the 'Boys will be Boys' treatment while Women are judged upon much harsher criteria, and ultimately T-Poisoning within the modern Patriarchy is still excused if not accepted far too much for my liking. 

It isn't even a big deal whenever threads like this are made, no one really cares. Of course I'm somewhat entertained by it but still. Men really have to watch out these days or else he could end up in a cell over nothing.

It's not that hard to not be horrible, women do it in the workplace all the time. 

Men just need to learn from Women, they have an ahead start on us in many ways and are far more wise on average. 

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last edit on 11/30/2021 12:56:51 AM
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