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Lmao no

Lenalee said: 

Lmao no

 You can take it or leave it. It's a tough pill to swallow for some of you. But in reality, this is also listed in the DSM-V, while the results are the same, the themes are the same, and the fact it's even listed in the DSM goes to show how the knowledge of dealing with it, and it being identified as a positive experience for the subject, is quite shocking.

Spatial Mind said: 

Lenalee said: 

Lmao no

 You can take it or leave it. It's a tough pill to swallow for some of you. But in reality, this is also listed in the DSM-V, while the results are the same, the themes are the same, and the fact it's even listed in the DSM goes to show how the knowledge of dealing with it, and it being identified as a positive experience for the subject, is quite shocking.

 I would agree with you had this been a sudden development but she's been ramping up her "relationships". 

I think Tryp said it best: You seem to keep finding yourself in extraordinary relationships that make you very valuable by being in them.

At first with sorta celebrities, then with actual celebrities while claiming to become the next big thing in Hollywood or LA to cult head to now Gods Wife. In the "relationship" with others that were never in her reach or were simple obsession/delusion- while they never really answered her it was still rejection because they chose not to answer her and then she woul ramp up to harassing them. 

In this relationship with God he can't really reject her, in this religion other members will encourage her to accept god and that he in turn accepts her which would be fine if she hadn't ramped it up again into a very different relationship. One in which she has sexualized him, has tried to share his power and claim she is superior to others through "his" choosing her. This was an obvious next step, it was also a safe step.

He cannot reject her, he cannot leave her, he cannot do anything to that will crumble her delusion and that's what makes him so perfect for her right now.

Lenalee said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

Lenalee said: 

Lmao no

 You can take it or leave it. It's a tough pill to swallow for some of you. But in reality, this is also listed in the DSM-V, while the results are the same, the themes are the same, and the fact it's even listed in the DSM goes to show how the knowledge of dealing with it, and it being identified as a positive experience for the subject, is quite shocking.

 I would agree with you had this been a sudden development but she's been ramping up her "relationships". 

I think Tryp said it best: You seem to keep finding yourself in extraordinary relationships that make you very valuable by being in them.

At first with sorta celebrities, then with actual celebrities while claiming to become the next big thing in Hollywood or LA to cult head to now Gods Wife. In the "relationship" with others that were never in her reach or were simple obsession/delusion- while they never really answered her it was still rejection because they chose not to answer her and then she woul ramp up to harassing them. 

In this relationship with God he can't really reject her, in this religion other members will encourage her to accept god and that he in turn accepts her which would be fine if she hadn't ramped it up again into a very different relationship. One in which she has sexualized him, has tried to share his power and claim she is superior to others through "his" choosing her. This was an obvious next step, it was also a safe step.

He cannot reject her, he cannot leave her, he cannot do anything to that will crumble her delusion and that's what makes him so perfect for her right now.

 One might stay she was having manic episodes, and when people are like that they feel like they can do anything, which doesn't sound all that bad. 

I knew 1 BPD beauty , she had an episode and she excitedly told me how she's going to school to become a heart surgeon. Now when I tell you she was crazy, yeah, she's crazy. She's usually on the ditzy side of the spectrum, and personally I wouldn't ever imagine her to perform surgery of any kind. She can't even put a worm on a hook, meanwhile she was very excited about becoming a heart surgeon. In the end her and I don't speak anymore, her mood swings really scared me lol.

Manic episodes can sometimes last awhile. I can't say for sure if Emily went to Hollywood or not in pursuit of fame, but that is something someone having a manic episode would do. The funny thing is, if the subject succeeds at whatever it is they are trying to do ( which is usually things beyond their skill or ability like inventing flying cars ) then no one can say anything, and no one would be able to say if the subject was in the right or wrong, but there's no denying the madness, even if their ambition at the time is brilliant.

I've seen and had experiences people wouldn't believe and as a spiritual invested individual, a lot of what Emily says is on a very deep level. I know this cause back on Luna's SC her and I surprised one another with how clear we were in deep conversation.

Also this isn't Emily's first divine rodeo, but it is without a doubt the biggest one we've seen. It's been weeks now. For her to fall back to how she was before would be bewildering.

Do I think she's playing ? Nope. She is quite serious. The stuff I wrote in the OP, I wrote maybe 7-10 years ago on the Nabble Forum. I actually tried to go to the old forum to bring the good old old speech here, but I'm sad to announce the SW Nabble forum is finally gone.

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What is happening is called a Spiritual Crisis. Perhaps that triggers your atheism, but the name doesn't confirm or deny what it actually is, it just goes by the nature of the episode, so both atheists and theists can work with it. The subject will claim to be some kind divine being regardless of what others think it is. 

Spatial Mind said: 

I'm not Bipolar, just an expert on the subject. I've spent many years learning about it, which includes something none of you ever address. The Spiritual Emergency ( A.k.A Spiritual Crisis ). And we're witnessing it in these pages these days.

To be clear, I do not confirm or deny Emily's experiences. The outcome however is identical to what would be a divine intervention.

I remember you going on about this before on the old forum, back when you were trying to tell me that my  Schizophrenia  Schizoaffective's of the same train of thought. If that's the case, I've had several I've chosen to say were wrong that you'd likely disagree with me over as well. 

What had you take up the subject of bipolar people if it's not through your own experiences? Is it over how your own moods and mindset go through seemingly strange shifts, leading to you having once questioned if the label applied to you? 

It's interesting how the way they treat a Spiritual Emergency, is to allow it to play out and not suppress it, as the process is more of a regurgitation where the subject will evolve into a more positive state. 

Symptoms of a Spiritual Crisis may include...

Oh fuck dog, I might be in a Spiritual Crisis right now. 😏

A Spiritual Emergency is something that happens to some Bipolar minds. Surely our friend Emily is borderline, but with that condition comes Bipolar as well. If you're Bipolar, this can happen to you and it comes across as very real, and perhaps it is. Typically those who go through this are a pleasure to deal with in mental facilities. The start of a Spiritual Crisis however, is somewhat frightening for spectators, as the subject will do things like strip in public and appear dazed while being carried away on a stretcher, while to them they are undergoing an eye opening experience while being bathed in divine light. It is without a doubt an ego death.

That you'd call stripping in public and going into fugue-like states a spiritual experience is troubling. 

It's also very interesting when this happens to atheists. They too will know themselves to be a divine being.

There's no way to tell that apart from wish fulfillment, especially if what occurs has relation to things witnessed prior in your life. As creatures that possess a projective understanding of the world, that is to say that we know the world through what we've sensed and experienced plainly, we can only understand it as well as our ability to have perceived it in the first place (simulation theory's question).

If we for instance were to possess Red/Green Colorblindness without a buddy we might not ever even notice the deficiency, and so too is it true for blind spots of our perceptions and personalities, ones that everyone has within a wide demonstration of variations. 

No matter what we might think, the only world we live in truly is our own. We cannot prove that which is outside ourselves beyond doing it through ourselves, so if we get anything wrong it can become difficult to see the issue even outside of matters of stubbornness. 

This is why Dunning Krugger is even a thing: 

Dunning–Kruger effect - Wikipedia:

The Dunning–Kruger effect is a hypothetical cognitive bias stating that people with low ability at a task overestimate their own ability, and that people with high ability at a task underestimate their own ability.

The ones who underestimate themselves tend to do so from not trusting themselves as much, yet it's from this room to doubt and question that they find themselves seeking other answers if not refining existing ones. It's the ones who assume they already know what's going on that learn nothing more, for their cup is full and more knowledge simply pours out: 



It is the Scientists of this world who sit there unsure over if they are or aren't right, while it is the Clergy who tell us there's only one book to study to learn everything. 

On a personal note, we see these things in the study of quantum physical where consciousness plays a profound role in our reality. That we are 1 consciousness while the physical body and the brain, plus the illusion of being an individual plus how the brain works and experiences etc. That acts as a filter for the illusion of duality. An experience like this really does seem to blur such a filter. Of course this is my theory, but if we are 1 consciousness, then there's no reason Emily couldn't identify herself as the first woman. ( Surprise, there actually was a first woman believe it or not, and it could really be Lilith )

...I don't think this has anything to do with Quantum Physics. 

Still, if we're to take her narrative seriously, she did a ritual to call Lilith to her during her Wiccan phase, something she'd felt inspired to do from talking to people on the forum about it by my guess. Once she was called upon she believes Lilith to have entered her body, fusing with her, which fits the bill pretty well for possession. It's after this ritual that she began doing this entire LA thing where she thought she'd become Queen of it, followed by saying Lilith is aiming to remarry Jesus. 

An exorcism may be in order here. 

Regardless of one's belief, the Spiritual Emergency will result in an improved state of being.

The schizos and emotional blowup types I've met don't always improve after freaking out, but disordered types do have an emergence of knowledge from these experiences, whether from episodes or from poorly planned pill regiments: Knowledge of the Release of Control. 

This leads to very different conversations with them after they've had their first few episodes, as they'll start to look at others for the areas where they aren't in control either as a reflection of projective understanding. Rather than seeing every decision as if it were a choice it reveals the more physically contingent aspects of human nature, which with any luck can have them learn to trust themselves less and watch themselves as they would others for patterns and symptoms in lieu of blaming themselves for a lack of restraint. 

There is Wisdom in Madness, but it comes at a price that has to be paid in advance. I wouldn't call it the Knowledge of the Divine either, I'd call it Shamanistic at best over how it leads to some of the wackier stories that people might find themselves modeling off of more typically in third to second world scenarios. 

Negativity is released, bad habits get crushed, and those who lived through this experience go on to live happier and more meaningful lives.

This is sounding like when you were ranting about Phoenix symbolism for a bit, after one of your breakdowns years back. It has me feel like you're projecting that epiphany onto the entirety of the human experience when it may have been more ideal for you than it'd be for (other) disordered individuals. 

My times with this have not made me a better person personally, they've made me worse, and many I've had the pleasure of watching go through similar experiences aren't having a fun time where they become enlightened wise men either. It's a constant battle, not some one time chrysalis that turns us from caterpillars into divine butterflies or some nonsense, and I'd go as far as to say that you pushing that these disorderly displays are healthy could push someone in the midst of them into highly maladaptive places, such as if they thought they had to go through another Abraham + Issac story. 

Much of what makes someone's narrative believable is over how much they can trick themselves into believing it as well. Madness is very... very helpful for that sort of thing if it's paired with the right sort of zeal and charisma, and once the mad foundational figure dies it can be carried on through faith alone. This is also why Narcissism is listed as capable of forming a flock around itself: They believe the narc over how the narc believes him or herself. 

Spatial Mind said: 

That being said, I can't tell you when was the last time Emily stuffed a dildo in her poon, but it wouldn't surprise me if she hadn't done so at all, while she resists the urge, or even goes as far as to attack guys she would typically fall for and bang. A complete and total opposite action as opposed to what she's been known for.

This behavior's still classic her, she's chosen one figure to deify and chase after who's otherwise unattainable in order to rebuke advances from everyone beneath that figure, like when she tried to move onto Sam Hyde to rebuke her former feelings for Tryp, claiming he's an 'Upgrade' effectively of the same values he otherwise had. 

The fact that she's now reached God/Jesus is troubling, she won't be able to upgrade past this one, but it otherwise conforms perfectly with the same behaviors she's been doing here for years. Even her battle for Queen is a near-constant across all of her faiths and life paths, as as she's said herself her inner desire is to feel worshipped. 

TLDR; It's the same girl with a different label on the tin. 

Our friend Emily is undergoing a very profound experience, and in my opinion it's not to be taken as foolishness.

Of course not she needs help, but to get through it she'll need to get through it her way rather than through being blocked and walled off entirely. She's already in a fragile state and can't read too well if it's not in the form of Bible Passages, self-reporting being in a hyperactive state with what I could only imagine are painful seizures she calls 'Satan Rape'. 

Going through her idealized means of reasoning, The Bible, is like learning how to speak the only language she's willing to comprehend right now. If she's to be led to a point where she's otherwise able to more maturely handle things it'll need to be done in her tongue, similarly to how someone who speaks Japanese would likely respond better to someone else speaking their native tongue. 

She's being bombarded with wisdom beyond her age. What she has to say can be digested very easily 'when we understand she has been somewhat morally sensitized.'

You've got to read her entire narrative before you go jumping to conclusions dude, this has been going on since even before she was Wiccan. 

She's patterns. 

It's then easy to see, someone like Feather's on a divine perspective really shouldn't hang out with some of you niggaz in a place like this.

While Jesus was having dinner at Matthew’s house, many tax collectors and sinners came and ate with him and his disciples. 

When the Pharisees saw this, they asked his disciples, “Why does your teacher eat with tax collectors and sinners?”

On hearing this, Jesus said, “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick.

But go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice.’ For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.”

Matthew 9:11-13

From there you can take it or leave it, and most likely you will leave it, which in a sense backs Emily's accusations. Of course no one is perfect and I think Feather's is doing fine, but if we had ultimate consciousness, we would obviously agree with Emily on an entire different level of understanding, and even applaud this process of transformation. 

Would we..?

But a duotheistic structure with a man and woman at it's head is 'Satanic' to them, even present in much of the Witchcraft they demonize.  

One might say what's happening to Emily is a miracle based on the type of person she was. ( She'll humiliate her dates, dox their penis, onlyfans, etc, While others will say it's just a series of delusions. Delusions maybe not, that so happens to be a reoccurring theme of a Spiritual Crisis. It's been swell and as it's expected to end well.

She's in pain and needs help. 

Spatial Mind said: 

Lenalee said: 

Lmao no

 You can take it or leave it. It's a tough pill to swallow for some of you. But in reality, this is also listed in the DSM-V, while the results are the same, the themes are the same, and the fact it's even listed in the DSM goes to show how the knowledge of dealing with it, and it being identified as a positive experience for the subject, is quite shocking.

The DSM doesn't call this shit positive. 

One might stay she was having manic episodes, and when people are like that they feel like they can do anything, which doesn't sound all that bad.

This isn't mania (or at least that form of it), she doesn't feel invincible she's arguing with herself and those around her. Often the statements she makes here are her talking at herself, giving herself orders or insisting towards herself what her feelings are, rather than declarations of her feelings plainly. Not all psychotic expressions are manic, and not all manic responses are the same (mine's paranoia). 

It's as simple to explain as these two disorders working in tandem, rather than Bipolar plainly having 'a moment': 

Turncoat said: 

God Complex - Wikipedia:

A god complex is an unshakable belief characterized by consistently inflated feelings of personal ability, privilege, or infallibility. A person with a god complex may refuse to admit the possibility of their error or failure, even in the face of irrefutable evidence, intractable problems or difficult or impossible tasks. The person is also highly dogmatic in their views, meaning the person speaks of their personal opinions as though they were unquestionably correct. Someone with a god complex may exhibit no regard for the conventions and demands of society, and may request special consideration or privileges.

Turncoat said: 

Erotomania - Wikipedia said:

Erotomania, also known as de Clérambault’s Syndrome, named after French psychiatrist Gaëtan Gatian de Clérambault, is listed in the DSM-5 as a subtype of a delusional disorder. It is a relatively uncommon paranoid condition that is characterized by an individual's delusions of another person being infatuated with them. The object of the delusion is typically a person who is unattainable due to high social or financial status, marriage or disinterest. The object of obsession may also be imaginary, deceased or someone the patient has never met. Delusions of reference are common, as the erotomanic individual often perceives that they are being sent messages from the secret admirer through innocuous events such as seeing license plates from specific states, but has no research development proof.

Spatial Mind said: 

I'm not Bipolar, just an expert on the subject. I've spent many years learning about it, which includes something none of you ever address. The Spiritual Emergency ( A.k.A Spiritual Crisis ). And we're witnessing it in these pages these days.

To be clear, I do not confirm or deny Emily's experiences. The outcome however is identical to what would be a divine intervention.

The term was coined by Dr. Stanislav Grof MD PhD, and is also listed in modern Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders ( DSM ).

 

It's interesting how the way they treat a Spiritual Emergency, is to allow it to play out and not suppress it, as the process is more of a regurgitation where the subject will evolve into a more positive state. 

Symptoms of a Spiritual Crisis may include...

A Spiritual Emergency is something that happens to some Bipolar minds. Surely our friend Emily is borderline, but with that condition comes Bipolar as well. If you're Bipolar, this can happen to you and it comes across as very real, and perhaps it is. Typically those who go through this are a pleasure to deal with in mental facilities. The start of a Spiritual Crisis however, is somewhat frightening for spectators, as the subject will do things like strip in public and appear dazed while being carried away on a stretcher, while to them they are undergoing an eye opening experience while being bathed in divine light. It is without a doubt an ego death.

It's also very interesting when this happens to atheists. They too will know themselves to be a divine being. On a personal note, we see these things in the study of quantum physical where consciousness plays a profound role in our reality. That we are 1 consciousness while the physical body and the brain, plus the illusion of being an individual plus how the brain works and experiences etc. That acts as a filter for the illusion of duality. An experience like this really does seem to blur such a filter. Of course this is my theory, but if we are 1 consciousness, then there's no reason Emily couldn't identify herself as the first woman. ( Surprise, there actually was a first woman believe it or not, and it could really be Lilith )

Regardless of one's belief, the Spiritual Emergency will result in an improved state of being. Negativity is released, bad habits get crushed, and those who lived through this experience go on to live happier and more meaningful lives. That being said, I can't tell you when was the last time Emily stuffed a dildo in her poon, but it wouldn't surprise me if she hadn't done so at all, while she resists the urge, or even goes as far as to attack guys she would typically fall for and bang. A complete and total opposite action as opposed to what she's been known for.

Our friend Emily is undergoing a very profound experience, and in my opinion it's not to be taken as foolishness. She's being bombarded with wisdom beyond her age. What she has to say can be digested very easily 'when we understand she has been somewhat morally sensitized.' It's then easy to see, someone like Feather's on a divine perspective really shouldn't hang out with some of you niggaz in a place like this. From there you can take it or leave it, and most likely you will leave it, which in a sense backs Emily's accusations. Of course no one is perfect and I think Feather's is doing fine, but if we had ultimate consciousness, we would obviously agree with Emily on an entire different level of understanding, and even applaud this process of transformation. 

One might say what's happening to Emily is a miracle based on the type of person she was. ( She'll humiliate her dates, dox their penis, onlyfans, etc, While others will say it's just a series of delusions. Delusions maybe not, that so happens to be a reoccurring theme of a Spiritual Crisis. It's been swell and as it's expected to end well.

That is all for now. 

 interesting. i was thinking schizophrenia but they say manic episodes can last months. i would to be a fly on the wall in her life cos i know she comes off kinda normal which is scary lol

We're certainly an outlet for a writhing demon inside her.  She is in a larval state, making her cocoon, having fits of transformation as she undergoes her metamorphosis.

Unfortunately, this process requires lots of energy, making her hangry, biting at all nearby sources of food or threat.

Will she accept what she becomes?

By the evidence so far...

Uncertain.