At this point you're just using ramp up as further confirmation so I'm just going to stop here.
Lmao im not doing anything, i just want the names of the people that seem to agree with you about sug, it should be pretty easy to give them out?? I won't even blast them on the forum I'll just ask in dms
your defense is that all these things were misinterpreted or twisted.. but sist said u and crow were talking about bashing trips legs in with bats. he said you grabbed his dick on the couch. he said you made a reference to his dick at the bath house that made him uncomfortable. he is the one that told us so take it up with him rather than trying to paint me as a liar lmao.
At this point you're just using ramp up as further confirmation so I'm just going to stop here.
Lmao im not doing anything, i just want the names of the people that seem to agree with you about sug, it should be pretty easy to give them out?? I won't even blast them on the forum I'll just ask in dms
inb4 'who hasn't said it?'
I just know two things:
A) I didn't reach for his dick, this story's super weird and when I confronted him over the accusation he seemed confused rather than shrouded or defensive. I know of a story similar to that, but that story involved someone else entirely while being on a high dose of LSD from a night where he thought he was dying and that people in white coats were going to pick him up as he projectile vomited like the spitting dinosaurs in Jurrasic Park or the demon from The Exorcist, and I wasn't even in the room to verify that story's accuracy so I don't even fully believe that story based on the rest of that tale's context.
FFS even if I was thirsting for that I'm not that brave, plus not to mention the whole 'committed relationship' thing with me and Crow and my own hang ups about things like 'cheating'. If I reached for that dude's dick he'd be making a much bigger fuss about it, especially considering the current state of his politics. That I'd even have to defend myself over this is insane, I'm a craven paranoid submissive, I'm not going to be the one initiating most of the time even with my own partners.
B) I only have what he said from his version versus you two's version, and he and I definitely agree with each other that there was no dick reaching going on. He has also since come forward to defend himself over these accusations, for whatever reason, while saying to my face that he has no idea where she's getting that idea from.
If he said that I reached for his dick that's only as on me as the room for him to slander my reputation towards appearing as some sort of perverse deviant. I know I'm a masochist but that's about the extent of it.
Conclusion: You can blame him as much as you want for whatever weird things he might have found himself saying, the dude says weird stuff and comes to strange conclusions and he knows I think that about him from my saying that to his face more than once, but this piece of data should not contribute towards a perverting of how I'm otherwise taken by people as if it were accurate. He and I don't really talk much these days other than over his spin on politics so it's really moreover how his word's being taken than however he and I will feel about each other at the end of the day.Uh, yeah he said those things idk wqhy you set it up like that. it wasn't just me and sug in that VC, Ephemeral, Dee and some others from the server were there. Then at the very least you can say it's not her doing the warping, she's going off of what Syst had initially said.
After his defending that it didn't happen it takes the listener to choose to continue the story. He's washed his hands of this beyond the room others have to use it as some sort of twist on evidence.
My end: I didn't reach for his dick, and that I'd be taken as the sort to be that brave is fucking weird.
and this idea of Crow going after Tryp while he was visiting is sheer nonsense when the guy was so hopped up on experimental drugs that he thought we were going to kill him in his sleep.
To be fair you both did plot to go at him with bats or something, another thing Syst told us about.
No we didn't, we never went at him with bats.
How do you even believe something that nutty sounding?I said you plotted. Another thing Syst told us about and how he was disappointed with you guys for plotting it on top of roof for it.
We didn't plot it though, we just laughed at a slapstick visual in our heads of how he'd act if that were to happen, which was in relation to a story Syst brought up about someone hitting people in the legs with bats.
He'd brought up Tryp which led to us reflecting on the still fairly recent drama of his time with us, he brought up a story about hitting legs with bats, we laughed at a visual of as if the two were drawn together. Syst has also since confirmed that he doesn't really think we'd blast his legs with bats, and if you ask yourself, do we really seem like the sort of people to take a bat to someone's legs?
Should I take every time you talk about wanting to break someone or something as confirmation that you're plotting to do it? Come on now.
My concern over the BR situation is over being his friend, an IRL one who even has shared experiences with having gone to the same high school and lived in similar areas, yet even that gets twisted to being about me trying to steal him from Delora when you've been clearly watching the Delora/BR narrative for a while now and likely see the problems with their marriage as well as the others here who actually bother to pay attention.
But why even meddle? Let them make their mistakes. He doesn't want to listen so let him learn. It's really that easy
I found their situation very concerning and he's my friend, her behavior has been pretty awful beyond the bounds of comfortably watching it go on when I know the guy now. He'd effectively become socially isolated with no one else to talk to, leading to all sorts of Gaslight damages, and once he saw me defending him he opened up to me more about what was going on.
He's since found other people to be his social network that otherwise recognize the problem she's presenting, and while he and I still talk about music and stuff I'm not as much of a crutch for him in that specific area anymore.Good for him, still say you shouldn't have meddled as much as you did and told you as much back then.
It ultimately helped him, so I don't see why it was bad.
The only accurate part in that entire rambling was over my laughing at Syst at the spa where they only allowed you a rather tiny modesty towel. The guy felt insecure from being in a sea of dicks, of course I found it hilarious, and he spent the majority of our time there sipping on juice and reading a foreign newspaper in a waiting room once all that asian dong became too much to bear.
This has also been explained multiple times, and it won't even be to my benefit for bothering beyond a sense of self-validation.Syst said you made him uncomfortable when talking about his dick. This is all stuff coming from certain people and it's being retold as they have told us.
Yeah, it did make him uncomfortable, the guy is 'No Homo' personified and the joke was made while he was in a sea of dicks.
I just said he 'had nothing to worry about' as a joke about his size versus the size of Asians, and from that this entirely weird sexually perverse narrative has been cobbled from it that even he's like 'wtf' over rather than just defensive or sneaky.Oh no, he like said you made a point about talking about his dick. He was very clearly uncomfortable. 🤷
I said it once and he became awkwardly silent in the hot tub, that's it.
I just know two things:
A) I didn't reach for his dick, this story's super weird and when I confronted him over the accusation he seemed confused rather than shrouded or defensive. I know of a story similar to that, but that story involved someone else entirely while being on a high dose of LSD from a night where he thought he was dying and that people in white coats were going to pick him up as he projectile vomited like the spitting dinosaurs in Jurrasic Park or the demon from The Exorcist, and I wasn't even in the room to verify that story's accuracy so I don't even fully believe that story based on the rest of that tale's context.
FFS even if I was thirsting for that I'm not that brave, plus not to mention the whole 'committed relationship' thing with me and Crow and my own hang ups about things like 'cheating'. If I reached for that dude's dick he'd be making a much bigger fuss about it, especially considering the current state of his politics. That I'd even have to defend myself over this is insane, I'm a craven paranoid submissive, I'm not going to be the one initiating most of the time even with my own partners.
B) I only have what he said from his version versus you two's version, and he and I definitely agree with each other that there was no dick reaching going on. He has also since come forward to defend himself over these accusations, for whatever reason, while saying to my face that he has no idea where she's getting that idea from.
If he said that I reached for his dick that's only as on me as the room for him to slander my reputation towards appearing as some sort of perverse deviant. I know I'm a masochist but that's about the extent of it.
Conclusion: You can blame him as much as you want for whatever weird things he might have found himself saying, the dude says weird stuff and comes to strange conclusions and he knows I think that about him from my saying that to his face more than once, but this piece of data should not contribute towards a perverting of how I'm otherwise taken by people as if it were accurate. He and I don't really talk much these days other than over his spin on politics so it's really moreover how his word's being taken than however he and I will feel about each other at the end of the day.Uh, yeah he said those things idk wqhy you set it up like that. it wasn't just me and sug in that VC, Ephemeral, Dee and some others from the server were there. Then at the very least you can say it's not her doing the warping, she's going off of what Syst had initially said.
After his defending that it didn't happen it takes the listener to choose to continue the story. He's washed his hands of this beyond the room others have to use it as some sort of twist on evidence.
My end: I didn't reach for his dick, and that I'd be taken as the sort to be that brave is fucking weird.and this idea of Crow going after Tryp while he was visiting is sheer nonsense when the guy was so hopped up on experimental drugs that he thought we were going to kill him in his sleep.
To be fair you both did plot to go at him with bats or something, another thing Syst told us about.
No we didn't, we never went at him with bats.
How do you even believe something that nutty sounding?I said you plotted. Another thing Syst told us about and how he was disappointed with you guys for plotting it on top of roof for it.
We didn't plot it though, we just laughed at a slapstick visual in our heads of how he'd act if that were to happen, which was in relation to a story Syst brought up about someone hitting people in the legs with bats.
He'd brought up Tryp which led to us reflecting on the still fairly recent drama of his time with us, he brought up a story about hitting legs with bats, we laughed at a visual of as if the two were drawn together. Syst has also since confirmed that he doesn't really think we'd blast his legs with bats, and if you ask yourself, do we really seem like the sort of people to take a bat to someone's legs?
Should I take every time you talk about wanting to break someone or something as confirmation that you're plotting to do it? Come on now.
Yes. I purposely start up arguments in hope of it becoming explosive so I can feel something.
My concern over the BR situation is over being his friend, an IRL one who even has shared experiences with having gone to the same high school and lived in similar areas, yet even that gets twisted to being about me trying to steal him from Delora when you've been clearly watching the Delora/BR narrative for a while now and likely see the problems with their marriage as well as the others here who actually bother to pay attention.
But why even meddle? Let them make their mistakes. He doesn't want to listen so let him learn. It's really that easy
I found their situation very concerning and he's my friend, her behavior has been pretty awful beyond the bounds of comfortably watching it go on when I know the guy now. He'd effectively become socially isolated with no one else to talk to, leading to all sorts of Gaslight damages, and once he saw me defending him he opened up to me more about what was going on.
He's since found other people to be his social network that otherwise recognize the problem she's presenting, and while he and I still talk about music and stuff I'm not as much of a crutch for him in that specific area anymore.Good for him, still say you shouldn't have meddled as much as you did and told you as much back then.
It ultimately helped him, so I don't see why it was bad.
The only accurate part in that entire rambling was over my laughing at Syst at the spa where they only allowed you a rather tiny modesty towel. The guy felt insecure from being in a sea of dicks, of course I found it hilarious, and he spent the majority of our time there sipping on juice and reading a foreign newspaper in a waiting room once all that asian dong became too much to bear.
This has also been explained multiple times, and it won't even be to my benefit for bothering beyond a sense of self-validation.Syst said you made him uncomfortable when talking about his dick. This is all stuff coming from certain people and it's being retold as they have told us.
Yeah, it did make him uncomfortable, the guy is 'No Homo' personified and the joke was made while he was in a sea of dicks.
I just said he 'had nothing to worry about' as a joke about his size versus the size of Asians, and from that this entirely weird sexually perverse narrative has been cobbled from it that even he's like 'wtf' over rather than just defensive or sneaky.Oh no, he like said you made a point about talking about his dick. He was very clearly uncomfortable. 🤷
I said it once and he became awkwardly silent in the hot tub, that's it.
Lmao
At this point you're just using ramp up as further confirmation so I'm just going to stop here.
Lmao im not doing anything, i just want the names of the people that seem to agree with you about sug, it should be pretty easy to give them out?? I won't even blast them on the forum I'll just ask in dms
I've apparently been visited twice by the FBI, outed myself as a pedo, and serially use women for money? Sugar's been known to reminisce on ancient shit and remember warped versions of things.
At this point you're just using ramp up as further confirmation so I'm just going to stop here.
Lmao im not doing anything, i just want the names of the people that seem to agree with you about sug, it should be pretty easy to give them out?? I won't even blast them on the forum I'll just ask in dms
I've apparently been visited twice by the FBI, outed myself as a pedo, and serially use women for money? Sugar's been known to reminisce on ancient shit and remember warped versions of things.
You have used women for money, you tried to have fae give you money and it didn't go or if she did, she told me she was going to give you grocery store giftcards, you tried to get Ana to pay a utility bill and you were bugging me about how broke you and your brother were and how you could really use the money.
Idk about the fbi but something about faes parents?
You have admitted in chat to seeking out cp and then saying it was once and how dare we judge you while we get along with Jim. These are true things.
I've apparently been visited twice by the FBI, outed myself as a pedo, and serially use women for money? Sugar's been known to reminisce on ancient shit and remember warped versions of things.
Yes. Smuggling in unambiguity among the ambiguous.
At this point you're just using ramp up as further confirmation so I'm just going to stop here.
Lmao im not doing anything, i just want the names of the people that seem to agree with you about sug, it should be pretty easy to give them out?? I won't even blast them on the forum I'll just ask in dms
I've apparently been visited twice by the FBI, outed myself as a pedo, and serially use women for money? Sugar's been known to reminisce on ancient shit and remember warped versions of things.
You have used women for money, you tried to have fae give you money and it didn't go or if she did, she told me she was going to give you grocery store giftcards, you tried to get Ana to pay a utility bill and you were bugging me about how broke you and your brother were and how you could really use the money.
Idk about the fbi but something about faes parents?
You have admitted in chat to seeking out cp and then saying it was once and how dare we judge you while we get along with Jim. These are true things.
This is so stupid. Yes, early on in an addiction I would try to obtain funds from people in order to buy some alcohol. These are all pretty small sums except in the case of Fae, and her and I have communication and an understanding in regards to that. Don't you think it's a little sad for people to keep whining about that shit like 5/6 years later, and a little disingenuous to claim I "use women for money" based on a few events that happened half a decade ago?
Also I don't know the context of me in a chat saying I sought out CP or whatever, as if everything I say in chat is always dead serious and I never troll or say dumb shit for shock value.
So to recap: No, I don't use women for money (I did a long time ago), no, I never said I was a pedo, and no, never spoke to the FBI. All distortions.
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At this point you're just using ramp up as further confirmation so I'm just going to stop here.
Lmao im not doing anything, i just want the names of the people that seem to agree with you about sug, it should be pretty easy to give them out?? I won't even blast them on the forum I'll just ask in dms
I've apparently been visited twice by the FBI, outed myself as a pedo, and serially use women for money? Sugar's been known to reminisce on ancient shit and remember warped versions of things.
You have used women for money, you tried to have fae give you money and it didn't go or if she did, she told me she was going to give you grocery store giftcards, you tried to get Ana to pay a utility bill and you were bugging me about how broke you and your brother were and how you could really use the money.
Idk about the fbi but something about faes parents?
You have admitted in chat to seeking out cp and then saying it was once and how dare we judge you while we get along with Jim. These are true things.
This is so stupid. Yes, early on in an addiction I would try to obtain funds from people in order to buy some alcohol. These are all pretty small sums except in the case of Fae, and her and I have communication and an understanding in regards to that. Don't you think it's a little sad for people to keep whining about that shit like 5/6 years later, and a little disingenuous to claim I "use women for money" based on a few events that happened half a decade ago?
Those people tended to be women, Blanc at one point had to stop her father from offering financial help you. were.pissed.
You literally brought it up right now and i had totally forgotten that you had done this, in my opinion Sugar hasn't warped anything about it. You did try to use women for money.
Also I don't know the context of me in a chat saying I sought out CP or whatever, as if everything I say in chat is always dead serious and I never troll or say dumb shit for shock value.
If you want to pretend to be a pedophile for shock value, be prepared for people to treat you as such.
So to recap: No, I don't use women for money (I did a long time ago), no, I never said I was a pedo, and no, never spoke to the FBI. All distortions.
Nah, just because you haven't been doing it recently doesn't mean it just gets erased. This is the type of person you are. Sure you're 'Changing' but these were still events that happened and speak of your character.
