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Turncoat, evidence that lesbianiam is a sin once and for all


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https://www.focusonthefamily.com/family-qa/biblical-perspective-on-homosexuality-and-same-sex-marriage/

 

"According to the Bible, marriage is heterosexual by definition. Jesus, when expressing his understanding of the scriptural foundation for the divine purpose and design in marriage, referred to its origins in the Creation account: “From the beginning of creation, God made them male and female. For this cause a man shall leave his father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh…” (Mark 10:6-8, quoting Genesis 2:24)."

 

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there, so please stop now I have given to you the evidence

 

there is to be no lust, fornication or sexual intercourse outside of marriage !!!!!!!!!!!!  EVER. PERIOD

 

 

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Excuse you ?

I said Jesus is their worst enemy, not me, and Turncoat is very wrong lesbianism is a sin

The texts explicitly go out of their way to demonize men laying with men as they would a woman, multiple times in different words. 

I could only find one passage over it for women, and it was simply listed as being 'Contrary to their nature'. 

https://www.focusonthefamily.com/family-qa/biblical-perspective-on-homosexuality-and-same-sex-marriage/

"According to the Bible, marriage is heterosexual by definition. Jesus, when expressing his understanding of the scriptural foundation for the divine purpose and design in marriage, referred to its origins in the Creation account: “From the beginning of creation, God made them male and female. For this cause a man shall leave his father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh…” (Mark 10:6-8, quoting Genesis 2:24)."

This still seems like it's fixating on penetration, I'm not sure if the writers of the Bible even considered Lesbianism as a concept beyond questioning it once

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Jesus gives grace, Lord knows I struggle with these sins myself but they are still sins and I'm being cleansed and purified and sanctified and will eventually stop committing these sins outside of my marriage to Jesus, because I want to, I don't want to willingly sin against Jesus and be hurting him, but I am addicted to sexual immorality currently as in I struggle with having control over my sexual thoughts and sexual urges, and also Satan rapes me against my will and it feels really really good so it is a serious struggle because I have no control over rape but if I was less sinful and more cleansed I wouldn't even be in the position to be spiritually raped by Satan in the first place

 

but alas, I am an imperfect sinner currently in the remission process from all of my sins

 

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0 votes RE: Turncoat, evidence that lesbianiam is a sin once and for all

Excuse you ?

I said Jesus is their worst enemy, not me, and Turncoat is very wrong lesbianism is a sin

The texts explicitly go out of their way to demonize men laying with men as they would a woman, multiple times in different words. 

I could only find one passage over it for women, and it was simply listed as being 'Contrary to their nature'. 

https://www.focusonthefamily.com/family-qa/biblical-perspective-on-homosexuality-and-same-sex-marriage/

"According to the Bible, marriage is heterosexual by definition. Jesus, when expressing his understanding of the scriptural foundation for the divine purpose and design in marriage, referred to its origins in the Creation account: “From the beginning of creation, God made them male and female. For this cause a man shall leave his father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh…” (Mark 10:6-8, quoting Genesis 2:24)."

This still seems like it's fixating on penetration, I'm not sure if the writers of the Bible even considered Lesbianism as a concept beyond questioning it once

NO

 

even LUSTFUL THOUGHTS OUTSIDE OF MARRIAGE ARE A SIN LET ALONE FORNICATION

 

I'm serious this is in the scriptures

 

last edit on 11/9/2021 4:37:41 AM
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Matthew 5:28

28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

 

see ?

 

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0 votes RE: Turncoat, evidence that lesbianiam is a sin once and for all

Excuse you ?

I said Jesus is their worst enemy, not me, and Turncoat is very wrong lesbianism is a sin

The texts explicitly go out of their way to demonize men laying with men as they would a woman, multiple times in different words. 

I could only find one passage over it for women, and it was simply listed as being 'Contrary to their nature'. 

https://www.focusonthefamily.com/family-qa/biblical-perspective-on-homosexuality-and-same-sex-marriage/

"According to the Bible, marriage is heterosexual by definition. Jesus, when expressing his understanding of the scriptural foundation for the divine purpose and design in marriage, referred to its origins in the Creation account: “From the beginning of creation, God made them male and female. For this cause a man shall leave his father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh…” (Mark 10:6-8, quoting Genesis 2:24)."

This still seems like it's fixating on penetration, I'm not sure if the writers of the Bible even considered Lesbianism as a concept beyond questioning it once

 NO

 

even LUSTFUL THOUGHTS OUTSIDE OF MARRIAGE ARE A SIN LET ALONE FORNICATION

 

I'm serious this is in the scriptures

But does girl on girl count as 'laying' in the Biblical sense? Even in nature there's built in reasons for many mammals, like the Bonobo and the Koala, for two females to be into eachother while typically displaying man-on-man activity less often. 

They kept stressing how it's about how men shouldn't do it, repeatedly, rather than saying people shouldn't do it or that no one should do it. Why even specify men with such voracity if it's meant for both genders to adhere to? 

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1 Corinthians 7:2

2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

 

but if you read all of 1 Corinthians, you can choose to abstain from sexual intercourse and having a wife (or a husband if you are a woman) like Paul did

 

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Matthew 5:28

28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

see ?

It was written by a man within the POV of the Male Gaze: 

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Matthew is the one saying it, and often in the texts they're implying that these are instructions for a man to follow with women being listed as secondary creatures that they're liable to encounter in the wild. 

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1 Corinthians 7

7 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.

2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.

4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.

5 Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.

6 But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment.

7 For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that.

8 I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, it is good for them if they abide even as I.

9 But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.

10 And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband:

11 But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife.

12 But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.

13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.

14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.

15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.

16 For what knowest thou, O wife, whether thou shalt save thy husband? or how knowest thou, O man, whether thou shalt save thy wife?

17 But as God hath distributed to every man, as the Lord hath called every one, so let him walk. And so ordain I in all churches.

18 Is any man called being circumcised? let him not become uncircumcised. Is any called in uncircumcision? let him not be circumcised.

19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.

20 Let every man abide in the same calling wherein he was called.

21 Art thou called being a servant? care not for it: but if thou mayest be made free, use it rather.

22 For he that is called in the Lord, being a servant, is the Lord's freeman: likewise also he that is called, being free, is Christ's servant.

23 Ye are bought with a price; be not ye the servants of men.

24 Brethren, let every man, wherein he is called, therein abide with God.

25 Now concerning virgins I have no commandment of the Lord: yet I give my judgment, as one that hath obtained mercy of the Lord to be faithful.

26 I suppose therefore that this is good for the present distress, I say, that it is good for a man so to be.

27 Art thou bound unto a wife? seek not to be loosed. Art thou loosed from a wife? seek not a wife.

28 But and if thou marry, thou hast not sinned; and if a virgin marry, she hath not sinned. Nevertheless such shall have trouble in the flesh: but I spare you.

29 But this I say, brethren, the time is short: it remaineth, that both they that have wives be as though they had none;

30 And they that weep, as though they wept not; and they that rejoice, as though they rejoiced not; and they that buy, as though they possessed not;

31 And they that use this world, as not abusing it: for the fashion of this world passeth away.

32 But I would have you without carefulness. He that is unmarried careth for the things that belong to the Lord, how he may please the Lord:

33 But he that is married careth for the things that are of the world, how he may please his wife.

34 There is difference also between a wife and a virgin. The unmarried woman careth for the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and in spirit: but she that is married careth for the things of the world, how she may please her husband.

35 And this I speak for your own profit; not that I may cast a snare upon you, but for that which is comely, and that ye may attend upon the Lord without distraction.

36 But if any man think that he behaveth himself uncomely toward his virgin, if she pass the flower of her age, and need so require, let him do what he will, he sinneth not: let them marry.

37 Nevertheless he that standeth stedfast in his heart, having no necessity, but hath power over his own will, and hath so decreed in his heart that he will keep his virgin, doeth well.

38 So then he that giveth her in marriage doeth well; but he that giveth her not in marriage doeth better.

39 The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord.

40 But she is happier if she so abide, after my judgment: and I think also that I have the Spirit of God.

 

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