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Lenalee said: 
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Press it all you want, I know who I am and what I'm capable of and I'd never get into a relationship with a cheater. How you get em is how they leave you and i believe Karma is a thing.

What are your views on karma? 

 Shit you earn based on your actions and behaviors and that this all affects your next lifetime. 

You're cool with reincarnation but you can't believe in Astrology? 

Hate horoscopes

 Why?

 "If this doesn't apply to you today then maybe it's for someone else, check back next time!"

It's just a bunch of vague stuff that can apply to anyone. Cold reading and stuff. Kinda like psychic readings and tarot cards can be the same sometimes and i can throw in some childhood shit about it, but it's stuff with no actual science behind it

 Predictive astrology is distinct from psychological astrology.  Do you hate both or just the tabloid horoscope side of it?

 Sigh  

Both. 

lol Most people who don't believe in astrology don't feel this strongly about it.  Did you grow up with an annoying astrologer or something? XD

Predictive, I agree.  As well as the idea of psychological astrology being directly the result of stars and planets themselves.  But the stars and planets are merely a clock for a cycle, an understandable misattribution by early civilizations trying to account for observable patterns while using the sky as their calendar.  That said, is there something you find not sound about the idea that environmental conditions would influence fetal development on a cycle?  Nature already functions on a seemingly endless web of cycles, one that blatantly affects the development of other living organisms, I see no reason we'd be different, our bodies were designed of and within the same system.  We can even observe it affecting our neurological function in adulthood, through things like cyclical sunlight deficiency, both in ourselves and other mammals.  It stands to reason that in our extremely malleable and receptive early development stages, we'd be even more susceptible to the influence of these cycles.  There are already more studies being done connecting birth season and even birth month to heightened and lowered likelihoods of traits both mental and physical.  The research is scant so far, but it's there at all, and it's growing.  Some of which has plainly correlated with commonly accepted astrological data.  There's a tremendous amount still unknown about the human brain, I think simply saying the science isn't there for it yet far from rules out the possibility.

Even if you think most of it is hokey exaggerations and confirmation bias, there could at the very least, easily be scientific roots for the practice.  A number of ancient mystical traditions rooted in science in some form.  Such as shamans making predictions based on bird behavior.  Taken as purely magical/spiritual in its day, and certainly expounded upon beyond its realistic bounds, but much of it based in legitimate reading of the patterns of animals more sensitive to the movements of nature than ourselves, using them to predict things like natural disasters with some degree of accuracy.  As astrology is based on cycles within nature, it could easily be argued that the entire practice arose from early people recognizing valid patterns of likelihood in human behavior and assuming, as they typically did, that it was the work of a higher power.  (Which I'd argue is true, since I see nature as God, and many of them did too, but I suppose that's beside the point.)

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Keep going guise. <3

 Thank you for being supportive. <3

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I just want to correct two minor things.

One, that TC has in fact been given flowers.  Many times.  He's a god damn princess, what do you expect?  Don't be bitter, Spatial.  Someone will give you flowers someday, you manly thing.

And two, that I never asked TC for flowers, never wanted to ask TC for flowers, and am now very curious what other conversations I've had with MissB, while not around to participate in them.~

For someone who insists on arguing the usecase of flowers ( not me, TC ) it's a pity he hasn't gotten you any and you'd have to ask for them, though I figured in advance you never wanted flowers, you're in his hands and he should get you some.

 TC is more likely to receive flowers than I am because he's semi homosexual ( cause he's bisexual see ) and does he does girlie stuff.

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I just want to correct two minor things.

One, that TC has in fact been given flowers.  Many times.  He's a god damn princess, what do you expect?  Don't be bitter, Spatial.  Someone will give you flowers someday, you manly thing.

And two, that I never asked TC for flowers, never wanted to ask TC for flowers, and am now very curious what other conversations I've had with MissB, while not around to participate in them.~

For someone who insists on arguing the usecase of flowers ( not me, TC ) it's a pity he hasn't gotten you any and you'd have to ask for them, though I figured in advance you never wanted flowers, you're in his hands and he should get you some.

I much prefer the massages, and he's pretty damn good about that.  So yes, in that sense, I'm very regularly in his hands.~  I'm a farmer, I can get my own flowers. lol

 

TC is more likely to receive flowers than I am because he's semi homosexual ( cause he's bisexual see ) and does he does girlie stuff.

I think it's moreso about his choice of partners over the years.  Doting types, especially the material-minded sort.  Lots of Earth and Fire in our collective astrological charts. : P

Plus he wears gratitude like a lost puppy, it's hard not to indulge such obvious and genuine appreciation.  At least on my part.  I like that he never expects it and always values it.

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I just want to correct two minor things.

One, that TC has in fact been given flowers.  Many times.  He's a god damn princess, what do you expect?  Don't be bitter, Spatial.  Someone will give you flowers someday, you manly thing.

And two, that I never asked TC for flowers, never wanted to ask TC for flowers, and am now very curious what other conversations I've had with MissB, while not around to participate in them.~

For someone who insists on arguing the usecase of flowers ( not me, TC ) it's a pity he hasn't gotten you any and you'd have to ask for them, though I figured in advance you never wanted flowers, you're in his hands and he should get you some.

I much prefer the massages, and he's pretty damn good about that.  I'm a farmer, I can get my own flowers. lol

Yeah I get it, you don't want flowers. That supports my claim.

TC argues the importance of giving flowers to the point where him never getting you any flowers, ever, is shameful.

I'm saying it's not about the flowers it's the affectionate aspect that matters. The gift can be better or worse than flowers.

 

TC is more likely to receive flowers than I am because he's semi homosexual ( cause he's bisexual see ) and does he does girlie stuff.

I think it's moreso about his choice of partners over the years.  Doting types, especially the material-minded sort.  Lots of Earth and Fire in our collective astrological charts. : P

Plus he wears gratitude like a lost puppy, it's hard not to indulge such obvious and genuine appreciation.  At least on my part.  I like that he never expects it and always values it.

 Next time he threatens to cut off his wii wii, punish him.

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This all started about flowers, lol.

Thrall to the Wire of Self-Excited Circuit.
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Lenalee said: 
Lenalee said: 

Hate horoscopes

 Why?

 "If this doesn't apply to you today then maybe it's for someone else, check back next time!"

It's just a bunch of vague stuff that can apply to anyone. Cold reading and stuff. Kinda like psychic readings and tarot cards can be the same sometimes and i can throw in some childhood shit about it, but it's stuff with no actual science behind it

 Predictive astrology is distinct from psychological astrology.  Do you hate both or just the tabloid horoscope side of it?

 Sigh  

Both. 

lol Most people who don't believe in astrology don't feel this strongly about it.  Did you grow up with an annoying astrologer or something? XD

I grew up with people doing cold readings and scams about it because most people are desperate to stay a step ahead, to cheat biological ends, willing more to believe they've been cursed that their incompetence is not their but rather someone's doing that there is no such thing as unfortunate events and circumstances but rather jealous individuals dealing with stars and spirits and dust and death and surely they must be special enough, more than, superior and must be brought down. 

It must be the fault of everything else and not them, and so people take advantage and say the right words because it's easy to play into this type of thinking. Pay up, and they'll make all the bad things go away, oh no, no immediate results of course but also here's a new thing for more money

Predictive, I agree.  As well as the idea of psychological astrology being directly the result of stars and planets themselves.  But the stars and planets are merely a clock for a cycle, an understandable misattribution by early civilizations trying to account for observable patterns while using the sky as their calendar.  That said, is there something you find not sound about the idea that environmental conditions would influence fetal development on a cycle?  Nature already functions on a seemingly endless web of cycles, one that blatantly affects the development of other living organisms, I see no reason we'd be different, our bodies were designed of and within the same system.  We can even observe it affecting our neurological function in adulthood, through things like cyclical sunlight deficiency, both in ourselves and other mammals.  It stands to reason that in our extremely malleable and receptive early development stages, we'd be even more susceptible to the influence of these cycles.  There are already more studies being done connecting birth season and even birth month to heightened and lowered likelihoods of traits both mental and physical.  The research is scant so far, but it's there at all, and it's growing.  Some of which has plainly correlated with commonly accepted astrological data.  There's a tremendous amount still unknown about the human brain, I think simply saying the science isn't there for it yet far from rules out the possibility.

Even if you think most of it is hokey exaggerations and confirmation bias, there could at the very least, easily be scientific roots for the practice.  A number of ancient mystical traditions rooted in science in some form.  Such as shamans making predictions based on bird behavior.  Taken as purely magical/spiritual in its day, and certainly expounded upon beyond its realistic bounds, but much of it based in legitimate reading of the patterns of animals more sensitive to the movements of nature than ourselves, using them to predict things like natural disasters with some degree of accuracy.  As astrology is based on cycles within nature, it could easily be argued that the entire practice arose from early people recognizing valid patterns of likelihood in human behavior and assuming, as they typically did, that it was the work of a higher power.  (Which I'd argue is true, since I see nature as God, and many of them did too, but I suppose that's beside the point.)

 Scant and I'm sure wanting it to be taken seriously there will be people wanting it to be more legitimate. Maybe I'm just not open to these things due to there not being something official something physical to study like a school and of course there is, you can do the same for guys wanting to be pick up artists and stuff and just ughhhh

I read some stuff like this and i think gosh, what a joke.

A school here in suburban Phoenix, where students learn to write horoscopes and give advice about the future, has won accreditation from a federally recognized body, in what is believed to be a first for a school of astrology.

The accreditation of the school, the Astrological Institute, will allow it to seek approval from the Department of Education for its students to get federal grants and loans.

The school's founder, Joyce Jensen, who had been seeking accreditation for years, said the stars were favorably aligned this month.

''This was a very good time,'' said Ms. Jensen, a 60-year-old Scorpio.

Her institute, where courses include a ''master class on the asteroid goddesses'' and ''how to write an astrological column,'' offers one program: a diploma in astrology and psychology.
 
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I just want to correct two minor things.

One, that TC has in fact been given flowers.  Many times.  He's a god damn princess, what do you expect?  Don't be bitter, Spatial.  Someone will give you flowers someday, you manly thing.

And two, that I never asked TC for flowers, never wanted to ask TC for flowers, and am now very curious what other conversations I've had with MissB, while not around to participate in them.~

For someone who insists on arguing the usecase of flowers ( not me, TC ) it's a pity he hasn't gotten you any and you'd have to ask for them, though I figured in advance you never wanted flowers, you're in his hands and he should get you some.

I much prefer the massages, and he's pretty damn good about that.  I'm a farmer, I can get my own flowers. lol

Yeah I get it, you don't want flowers. That supports my claim.

I would hardly call her the classical woman, she breaks a lot of the gender molds that society tries to tell us is how it's 'supposed to be'. If it weren't for being told that it'd be wiser to save money I would be buying her more things (and she's had to stop me a few times for some ideas <_<)

As for the rest flowers have been a welcome addition, and none of this takes away from my point. If I were to get her flowers after a relevant enough situation she'd understand the intent behind it rather than become distracted by it's smell or color. 

TC argues the importance of giving flowers to the point where him never getting you any flowers, ever, is shameful.

No, I said that flowers are a beautification of your intent. 

I'm saying it's not about the flowers it's the affectionate aspect that matters. The gift can be better or worse than flowers.

This is different from your older arguments actually, it's nice to see you coming around to our way of seeing things. 

TC is more likely to receive flowers than I am because he's semi homosexual ( cause he's bisexual see ) and does he does girlie stuff.

I think it's moreso about his choice of partners over the years.  Doting types, especially the material-minded sort.  Lots of Earth and Fire in our collective astrological charts. : P

Plus he wears gratitude like a lost puppy, it's hard not to indulge such obvious and genuine appreciation.  At least on my part.  I like that he never expects it and always values it.

 Next time he threatens to cut off his wii wii, punish him.

How is this even related? 

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Hmm, idk. There's a lot of scrambling. This is an epistemological challenge and super interesting!!! XD Are the legga accounts crow? I mean, look at the way these accounts subtly fawn over TC while leaving the room to continually reinforce a presuposed authority in him, while otherwise opening the door for gentle debate limited in sharp or challenging criticism. XDDD

It's suspicious. "leggax3" and puppet goes down in flames, then Bam, Crow suddenly appears on her main, which is rare tossing names out almost like desperate deflection. Hm. Then TC echoes maddly. lmao Trying too hard?

Couldn't be Aizen. He's too new and impatient. Cavalier would shit the bed trying to play a character.

Nah, legga is obviously a "girl". You can tell by its choice of attack lines; there's a lot of projection there. This person was really triggered about the trust/cheating accusations too. That was a sore spot for some reason. Who's in a long-term relationship who might be upset by that? It's also an OG, or possibly a somewhat newer member circa 2015/6 who perused old archives? Perhaps Raven? Raven is that you? <.<

Yes, it's me. It's Raven.

I've been called Legga since, like, 2012 or 2013?

https://web.archive.org/web/20141215151758/http://forum.2298483.n4.nabble.com/When-this-forum-goes-dumpster-td4737637i40.html

But Turncoat, for whatever reason, keeps saying I'm not the real Legga. Lol. Yes, I might as well be a girl, and Crow. It seems like people consistently agree that I'm a sockpuppet. It's insane how well TC's narratives work on people. Basically, every new person will be saddled with the burden of everyone thinking it's me. The hilarious part is that I've literally never even made a sockpuppet, ever. Just once, and that was some 7 years ago, "WhiteWolf."

If anything, I think it's a much bigger mystery who MaleFeminist is. I'm not him, either, by the way. I'm at a loss as to who he is, but I found his assessment of Lena the clown to be highly accurate. Maybe you?

Leftover-Lena steps to boyfriend: 1 Stop talking about me; 2 Stop being repulsive; 3 Change underwear >1 month; 4 Find people in your league
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