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0 votes RE: Turncoat, do you know how many people accused Jesus of blaspheming

did not Jesus study his own scriptures, to learn about himself and also to help teach and save his children from condemnation?

I wouldn't imagine him needing to study over it, being the son of God and those being stories over his own exploits. 

I am not called to teach, only to testimony, because I am a woman

What's that supposed to mean? 

but Jesus revealed to me that that I was Lilith and his wife through the New Testament scriptures and some old testament ones he "spoke" to me through (not an audible voice, it was the holy spirit speaking through revealing and intuitive knowing and giving of wisdom and understanding)

Those who aren't simply being polite when they tolerate your blasphemy (like Spatial) would likely argue this to be the work of Satan. I mean figuring we're but mere mortals, and figuring that what he "spoke" to you fits what you believed before he did so (when you were still Wiccan) supports that. 

If you were actually channeling Satan though I'd still say that's pretty lucky. 

yeah, have fun debating this because I am speaking the truth and making it very clear and obvious that I am not lying

Lying would be your aim to intentionally mislead, while instead I fully believe you believe yourself. You aren't being dishonest or whatever you're just inaccurate when you take into account the literature you're trying to base your goddess status off of. 

, and Jesus revealed to me what he revealed to me, just like God revealed to Jesus, that Jesus is God, Jesus revealed to me that I am God's wife, and the divine Mother / divine feminine, the ONE AND ONLY, there is only ONE OF ME

There's tons of people who think they've seen or spoken with God who've fallen upon similar 'chosen one' ideas, but the texts themselves would call your findings blasphemous, especially as a woman. 

many impersonators and wanna bes, only one true me. do you know how many people have claimed to be Jesus since after he ascended lol  hint* many

Well yeah, the texts discuss notions of 'his return' and there's some grade A narcs out there who'd insist they must be the son of God over their own egotism. 

but again, none of this is truly important, what is important is that Jesus saves, heals and redeems

I saw him more as a philosopher with some magic tricks mixed in. 

, but I am still trying to come to acceptance of this entirely unexpected responsibility Jesus has put on me to live up to, for eternity, because I forgot that I was the divine Mother, and I am in the process of remembering and adapting as I am being healed, to be the divine Mother I was always supposed to be, before I pridefully and foolishly gave control of myself to Satan, who had me temporarily convinced of all sorts of lies and delusions about myself during this incarnation because he used my pride against me

Again none of this Divine Mother stuff is Christian, and I dare you to find texts that'd support otherwise. 

General Spirituality or New Age practices allow a little more room for fusions of concepts, but a pure card carrying Christian would never believe these things. The Bible itself plainly and simply attacks other forms of religion and mysticism, and the source material you're going with is one of the ones more specifically called out by it (Wicca/Witchcraft). It's about just as blasphemous as if you as a Christian were claiming to be a redeemed Satan, it'd blatantly go against the texts. 

Wiccan practices and Christianity do not splice without very creative interpreting, their ideals are too different at the end of the day. 

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0 votes RE: Turncoat, do you know how many people accused Jesus of blaspheming

he "spoke" to me through (not an audible voice, it was the holy spirit speaking through revealing and intuitive knowing and giving of wisdom and understanding)

 That happens to me often enough, usually it happens and I'm super enlightened and I understand how things work. People really don't ask for much, and they are happy with what they received, and technically they asked for it. 

Whatever I'm to become I think is something that will have the task of putting up with a lot of bullshit but I'll do it comfortably so I can handle these tasks others can't handle. I also know the angels have a lot of respect for me and they'll have my back whatever it is I'll be doing.

yes, just don't let yourself become prideful over it, also Satan is very deceptive so I try to verify everything with the scriptures

Who's to say Satan wouldn't use the scriptures to lead sheep astray? Even with my own work as a mere mortal it's easy enough to quote it as a form of attack against the very source material spouting it, so why couldn't Satan do something similar? 

Using the words of your enemy has a way of having the message sink into their heads more, and tricking people into thinking he's God would be a very effective way to push people. Through their own ignorance of the situation they can do all the wrong things righteously, arguably like The Crusades for instance. 

, and there is nothing ANYWHERE in the scriptures that says it is impossible that God created a divine Mother, but obviously I was fallen so there were no praises sung about me

There's plenty in The Bible that would refer to this as false idolatry, they specifically warn about these sorts of things and advise people to just take the texts as is. 

You'd need an entirely new Bible written about you, like Jesus had, if this were to be taken even remotely seriously. 

the difference between me and Jesus is, one of many, that Jesus was never fallen and corrupted, and I was fallen and corrupted to the extreme, so naturally I am very confused

also I do not feel very powerful or like I can do much, Jesus has me in a very passive role as a female, but I'm supposed to become a nurturer of his children, instead of hating everyone and everything lol I am aware of this much

Jesus wasn't really powerful either, simply capable of feats we aren't. The point of him when he wasn't doing magic tricks was to show how power can be expressed without an iron fist, but rather a silk glove and an iron shield. He was a faith survivor, not a warlord, so power to him wasn't so literal. 

Have you looked much into Lilith's power?

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last edit on 10/9/2021 8:33:27 PM
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0 votes RE: Turncoat, do you know how many people accused Jesus of blaspheming

he "spoke" to me through (not an audible voice, it was the holy spirit speaking through revealing and intuitive knowing and giving of wisdom and understanding)

 That happens to me often enough, usually it happens and I'm super enlightened and I understand how things work. People really don't ask for much, and they are happy with what they received, and technically they asked for it. 

Whatever I'm to become I think is something that will have the task of putting up with a lot of bullshit but I'll do it comfortably so I can handle these tasks others can't handle. I also know the angels have a lot of respect for me and they'll have my back whatever it is I'll be doing.

yes, just don't let yourself become prideful over it, also Satan is very deceptive so I try to verify everything with the scriptures

Who's to say Satan wouldn't use the scriptures to lead sheep astray? Even with my own work as a mere mortal it's easy enough to quote it as a form of attack against the very source material spouting it, so why couldn't Satan do something similar? 

Using the words of your enemy has a way of having the message sink into their heads more, and tricking people into thinking he's God would be a very effective way to push people. Through their own ignorance of the situation they can do all the wrong things righteously, arguably like The Crusades for instance. 

, and there is nothing ANYWHERE in the scriptures that says it is impossible that God created a divine Mother, but obviously I was fallen so there were no praises sung about me

There's plenty in The Bible that would refer to this as false idolatry, they specifically warn about these sorts of things and advise people to just take the texts as is. 

You'd need an entirely new Bible written about you, like Jesus had, if this were to be taken even remotely seriously. 

the difference between me and Jesus is, one of many, that Jesus was never fallen and corrupted, and I was fallen and corrupted to the extreme, so naturally I am very confused

also I do not feel very powerful or like I can do much, Jesus has me in a very passive role as a female, but I'm supposed to become a nurturer of his children, instead of hating everyone and everything lol I am aware of this much

Jesus wasn't really powerful either, simply capable of feats we aren't. The point of him when he wasn't doing magic tricks was to show how power can be expressed without an iron fist, but rather a silk glove and an iron shield. He was a faith survivor, not a warlord, so power to him wasn't so literal. 

Have you looked much into Lilith's power?

Don't you get that me being the divine Mother does not contradict anything in the bible lol, just as Jesus being the divine Father does not contradict anything in the bible

 

I am done talking to you because I don't have the patience for your foolishness, I have my own healing and recovery to focus on right now

last edit on 10/10/2021 1:40:17 PM
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0 votes RE: Turncoat, do you know how many people accused Jesus of blaspheming

you question and attack and try to belittle me, just like they questioned and attacked and tried to belittle my husband and all that does is make me even more confident and assured, not less 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊🤍🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊 love and forgiveness and peace and blessings

 

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0 votes RE: Turncoat, do you know how many people accused Jesus of blaspheming

Don't you get that me being the divine Mother does not contradict anything in the bible lol, just as Jesus being the divine Father does not contradict anything in the bible

Actually, it does contradict quite a lot. 

You're trying to say you're a powerful woman in a religion that does not place value on women, you're using themes from Paganism/Witchcraft which The Bible specifically demonizes, it's a Monotheistic faith rather than Duotheistic which means you're putting a divine figure from outside of The Bible before others as if you were superior... 

Your themes are more so fit for something like Satanism: 

The Nine Satanic Statements said:
Satan represents indulgence instead of abstinence.
Satan represents vital existence instead of spiritual pipe dreams.
Satan represents undefiled wisdom instead of hypocritical self-deceit.
Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it, instead of love wasted on ingrates.
Satan represents vengeance instead of turning the other cheek.
Satan represents responsibility to the responsible instead of concern for psychic vampires.
Satan represents man as just another animal who, because of his "divine spiritual and intellectual development", has become the most vicious animal of all.
Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification.
Satan has been the best friend the Church has ever had, as he has kept it in business all these years.
The Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth said:
Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked.
Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them.
When in another's home, show them respect or else do not go there.
If a guest in your home annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy.
Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal.
Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the other person and they cry out to be relieved.
Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.
Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.
Do not harm little children.
Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food.
When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him.
The Nine Satanic Sins said:
Stupidity
Pretentiousness
Solipsism
Self-deceit
Herd Conformity
Lack of Perspective
Forgetfulness of Past Orthodoxies
Counterproductive Pride
Lack of Aesthetics

 

 
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0 votes RE: Turncoat, do you know how many people accused Jesus of blaspheming

you question and attack and try to belittle me, just like they questioned and attacked and tried to belittle my husband and all that does is make me even more confident and assured, not less 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊🤍🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊 love and forgiveness and peace and blessings

If you were being misled by Satan, how would you even know? This is why The Bible is even there to help, to steer people as best it can away from their own imaginings or ideas towards theirs instead. 

"Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding." - Proverbs 3:5

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last edit on 10/10/2021 4:14:52 PM
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0 votes RE: Turncoat, do you know how many people accused Jesus of blaspheming

Don't you get that me being the divine Mother does not contradict anything in the bible lol, just as Jesus being the divine Father does not contradict anything in the bible

Actually, it does contradict quite a lot. 

You're trying to say you're a powerful woman in a religion that does not place value on women, you're using themes from Paganism/Witchcraft which The Bible specifically demonizes, it's a Monotheistic faith rather than Duotheistic which means you're putting a divine figure from outside of The Bible before others as if you were superior... 

Your themes are more so fit for something like Satanism: 

The Nine Satanic Statements said:
Satan represents indulgence instead of abstinence.
Satan represents vital existence instead of spiritual pipe dreams.
Satan represents undefiled wisdom instead of hypocritical self-deceit.
Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it, instead of love wasted on ingrates.
Satan represents vengeance instead of turning the other cheek.
Satan represents responsibility to the responsible instead of concern for psychic vampires.
Satan represents man as just another animal who, because of his "divine spiritual and intellectual development", has become the most vicious animal of all.
Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification.
Satan has been the best friend the Church has ever had, as he has kept it in business all these years.
The Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth said:
Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked.
Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them.
When in another's home, show them respect or else do not go there.
If a guest in your home annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy.
Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal.
Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the other person and they cry out to be relieved.
Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.
Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.
Do not harm little children.
Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food.
When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him.
The Nine Satanic Sins said:
Stupidity
Pretentiousness
Solipsism
Self-deceit
Herd Conformity
Lack of Perspective
Forgetfulness of Past Orthodoxies
Counterproductive Pride
Lack of Aesthetics

 

 

 Hehe. Yeah.

I didn't know Satanists embraced feminine energy.

 

 

I always thought these guys were being ironic/ spoofy.

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0 votes RE: Turncoat, do you know how many people accused Jesus of blaspheming
Xena said: 

Hehe. Yeah.

I didn't know Satanists embraced feminine energy.

Like most feminist issues it's more about equality rather than treating one as if it were above the other, which tends to be the case for more open minded faiths that focus more on a sense of personal balance rather than selfless worship. Balance tends to be treated as down to earth while ones that want you to detach to more easily believe the folklore they're peddling tend to be over dissociating from the world, placing value on the hereafter while feeling scorn for the here and now to make it easier to handle their daily lives, typically over minimizing their own significance. When they don't care about their own anymore over what they read in a book it can become easier to push concepts they'd not otherwise normally take to, like women opposing abortion rights. 

While Christianity tends to be about men, Satanism tends to be about freedom, the power of the self through one's own ventures rather than through humbling the self and giving thanks to God for their own achievements. It's effectively worshipping yourself as if you were an equal to others rather than self-flagellating to feel as if a member of 'the elite' at the risk of being thrown into a furnace otherwise, with slavery rules penned in the Bible's very texts. 

While both go on about how people have choices only one of them actually embraces our room to make them. 

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0 votes RE: Turncoat, do you know how many people accused Jesus of blaspheming
Xena said: 

Hehe. Yeah.

I didn't know Satanists embraced feminine energy.

Like most feminist issues it's more about equality rather than treating one as if it were above the other, which tends to be the case for more open minded faiths that focus more on a sense of personal balance rather than selfless worship. Balance tends to be treated as down to earth while ones that want you to detach to more easily believe the folklore they're peddling tend to be over dissociating from the world, placing value on the hereafter while feeling scorn for the here and now to make it easier to handle their daily lives, typically over minimizing their own significance. When they don't care about their own anymore over what they read in a book it can become easier to push concepts they'd not otherwise normally take to, like women opposing abortion rights. 

While Christianity tends to be about men, Satanism tends to be about freedom, the power of the self through one's own ventures rather than through humbling the self and giving thanks to God for their own achievements. It's effectively worshipping yourself as if you were an equal to others rather than self-flagellating to feel as if a member of 'the elite' at the risk of being thrown into a furnace otherwise, with slavery rules penned in the Bible's very texts. 

While both go on about how people have choices only one of them actually embraces our room to make them. 

 Erm... not sure if it's the nature of the ideology, or the fault of the followers, but I've found that the Ethical Egoism at the core of LaVeyan thinking leaves some ppl with a falsely inflated sense of their own self importance. It can sometimes encourage abusive and/or self destructive behaviour.

Most of the LaVeyans I've known had extreme substance abuse issues, but ofc they couldn't admit that their so-called 'freedom' came with a huge price tag.

It would have been nice to have been able to buffer their behaviour with that List of 9.

 

I'll write it down, just in case I meet another somebody who needs to hear it.

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0 votes RE: Turncoat, do you know how many people accused Jesus of blaspheming
Xena said: 
Xena said: 

Hehe. Yeah.

I didn't know Satanists embraced feminine energy.

Like most feminist issues it's more about equality rather than treating one as if it were above the other, which tends to be the case for more open minded faiths that focus more on a sense of personal balance rather than selfless worship. Balance tends to be treated as down to earth while ones that want you to detach to more easily believe the folklore they're peddling tend to be over dissociating from the world, placing value on the hereafter while feeling scorn for the here and now to make it easier to handle their daily lives, typically over minimizing their own significance. When they don't care about their own anymore over what they read in a book it can become easier to push concepts they'd not otherwise normally take to, like women opposing abortion rights. 

While Christianity tends to be about men, Satanism tends to be about freedom, the power of the self through one's own ventures rather than through humbling the self and giving thanks to God for their own achievements. It's effectively worshipping yourself as if you were an equal to others rather than self-flagellating to feel as if a member of 'the elite' at the risk of being thrown into a furnace otherwise, with slavery rules penned in the Bible's very texts. 

While both go on about how people have choices only one of them actually embraces our room to make them. 

Erm... not sure if it's the nature of the ideology, or the fault of the followers, but I've found that the Ethical Egoism at the core of LaVeyan thinking leaves some ppl with a falsely inflated sense of their own self importance.

As you're questioning as well I'd imagine that moreover being about why they joined Satanism in the first place, rather than any fault of Satanism itself. The tenants mostly preach over thinking things through and being responsible over your own actions. 

Many selfish Satanists are a symptom of Christianity imo, largely due to that being how they got out of their religious closet. The fixation on sinning's more likely to come from having been on a path that spent so much time demonizing it, as it's otherwise mostly a live and let live ideal. 

It can sometimes encourage abusive and/or self destructive behaviour.

If it's self-indulgent or the result of sinning for the sake of it I could see that, but I'd also argue that that's not really my problem nor directly the faith's fault. 

Like Christians like to mention, God supposedly gave us the 'freedom' of choice, and if it's not God's fault when we fuck up those opportunities then it's not really Satan's either. A true card carrying Satanist can just as easily justify the others' failings of addiction and the like through "Satan represents undefiled wisdom instead of hypocritical self-deceit."

Most of the LaVeyans I've known had extreme substance abuse issues, but ofc they couldn't admit that their so-called 'freedom' came with a huge price tag.

I can't help but feel that their enslavement to vices preceded their faith, or would have likely remained a risk factor without it anyway. 

What stands to be wrong with Satanic practices is merely the room for people to abuse their freedoms. As a matter of picking my poison, I'd rather people have the freedom to screw up than be enslaved into a life that's not even their own. 

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