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LiYang said: 

This is why the right to bare arms is important. 

If the Afghans had guns, the Taliban wouldn't be able to get away with this. Anyone with an assault rifle would've been snipped where they stand by the locals.

 I been wondering about this. Were the weapons left there for the Afghan Army but they just gave up? This is a very strange situation.

 From what I gathered they gave up, and real quick. 

Afghan air force was compromised, I'm seeing here

43, MD-530 Helicopters

33, C-208 planes

33, UH-60 Black Hawks

23, A-29 Light attack planes

32, Mo-17 Helicopters

3, C-130 Hercules ( looks like some kind of heavy plane)

 

"Between 2003 and 2016, the US unloaded a huge amount of military hardware on the Afghan forces it fought alongside:

- 358,530 rifles of different makes,

- more than 64,000 machine guns,

- 25,327 grenade launchers 

- 22,174 Humvees (all-terrain vehicles),

according to the US Government Accountability Report."

"After Nato forces ended their combat role in 2014, the Afghan army was tasked with securing the country. As it struggled to counter the Taliban, the US provided more equipment and replaced ageing military gear.

It supplied nearly

- 20,000 M16 rifles in 2017 alone.

- In subsequent years, it contributed at least 3,598 M4 rifles 

- 3,012 Humvees among other equipment to Afghan security forces between 2017 and 2021, according to Sigar.

"The Afghan army also had mobile strike force vehicles, which it used for deployments at short notice. These 4x4 workhorses can be used to carry people or equipment."

 

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This one is reported to be the Taliban showing off their new combat gear. They got other nice toys like night vision goggles.

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Not only did they get new equipment, the Taliban also acquired disguises.  We can only hope they also got their hands on passports and other means to make further incursion easier.  Maybe rack up frequent fliers’ miles.

/sarcasm

Thrall to the Wire of Self-Excited Circuit.
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Outro said: 
Outro said: 
Outro said: 

I was following some sources yesterday, and it's been reported that the Biden administration gave the Taliban a list of all military personal and all Afghans who aided them over the past 18 years. The list is being referred to as a death list. 

Yeah nah you lost me here. That would be singularly retarded. Even without doing something that batshit, this is a really bad look for US services. Most operations are logistically contingent on the cooperation of local parties, and this whole shambolic exit will make it very difficult to gain anyones trust in the future.

 

There are reasons why I don't talk about certain things. Often enough people ridicule or fence with what's been told to them.

 

 

 

And surprise. US citizens are still "trapped" in Afghanistan.

 Wow my bad, you're actually right about this. Guess I didn't wanna believe that we could be that stupid.

 is this a fucking joke lmao? is scary music and text 'proof'?

 I didn't watch the videos tbh.. It's been reported in Politico, The Washington Post and NY Times.

And Biden's quote on the matter: “I can’t tell you with any certitude that there’s actually been a list of names. … It could very well have happened.”

Spatial's post is kind of an embellishment though, nothing to say it was a list of all aiding personnel over the past 18 years, and wasn't provided with the intent of being a "kill list". 

The actual story seems to be that after the Taliban guaranteed (lol, it's the Taliban, but still) safe passage out of Afghanistan, the US provided a manifesto of people seeking to exit to make it easier for them to access the airport, but it inadvertently blew everyones cover.

 thank u bb i was scared for a min

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Outro said: 
Outro said: 
Outro said: 

I was following some sources yesterday, and it's been reported that the Biden administration gave the Taliban a list of all military personal and all Afghans who aided them over the past 18 years. The list is being referred to as a death list. 

Yeah nah you lost me here. That would be singularly retarded. Even without doing something that batshit, this is a really bad look for US services. Most operations are logistically contingent on the cooperation of local parties, and this whole shambolic exit will make it very difficult to gain anyones trust in the future.

 

There are reasons why I don't talk about certain things. Often enough people ridicule or fence with what's been told to them.

 

 

 

And surprise. US citizens are still "trapped" in Afghanistan.

 Wow my bad, you're actually right about this. Guess I didn't wanna believe that we could be that stupid.

 is this a fucking joke lmao? is scary music and text 'proof'?

 I didn't watch the videos tbh.. It's been reported in Politico, The Washington Post and NY Times.

And Biden's quote on the matter: “I can’t tell you with any certitude that there’s actually been a list of names. … It could very well have happened.”

Spatial's post is kind of an embellishment though, nothing to say it was a list of all aiding personnel over the past 18 years, and wasn't provided with the intent of being a "kill list". 

The actual story seems to be that after the Taliban guaranteed (lol, it's the Taliban, but still) safe passage out of Afghanistan, the US provided a manifesto of people seeking to exit to make it easier for them to access the airport, but it inadvertently blew everyones cover.

 The first video's source is Politico.

As for Sugar. I honestly can't run around gathering info for her when all the answers are already at her fingertips.

don't be ridiculous ofc u can. i am meek timid shy gril

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Outro said: 
Outro said: 
Outro said: 

I was following some sources yesterday, and it's been reported that the Biden administration gave the Taliban a list of all military personal and all Afghans who aided them over the past 18 years. The list is being referred to as a death list. 

Yeah nah you lost me here. That would be singularly retarded. Even without doing something that batshit, this is a really bad look for US services. Most operations are logistically contingent on the cooperation of local parties, and this whole shambolic exit will make it very difficult to gain anyones trust in the future.

 

There are reasons why I don't talk about certain things. Often enough people ridicule or fence with what's been told to them.

 

 

 

And surprise. US citizens are still "trapped" in Afghanistan.

 Wow my bad, you're actually right about this. Guess I didn't wanna believe that we could be that stupid.

 is this a fucking joke lmao? is scary music and text 'proof'?

 I didn't watch the videos tbh.. It's been reported in Politico, The Washington Post and NY Times.

And Biden's quote on the matter: “I can’t tell you with any certitude that there’s actually been a list of names. … It could very well have happened.”

Spatial's post is kind of an embellishment though, nothing to say it was a list of all aiding personnel over the past 18 years, and wasn't provided with the intent of being a "kill list". 

The actual story seems to be that after the Taliban guaranteed (lol, it's the Taliban, but still) safe passage out of Afghanistan, the US provided a manifesto of people seeking to exit to make it easier for them to access the airport, but it inadvertently blew everyones cover.

 The first video's source is Politico.

So why not use a legit primary source as collateral rather than esoteric (and in the case of the second one, bizarrely conspiratorial) YouTube videos? Just seems a confusing way to back up your point when there's lots of bona fide intel. 

Like if I was trying to convince you that water's wet, a Reddit monologue prolly wouldn't be my first instinct.

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Outro said: 
Outro said: 
Outro said: 
Outro said: 

I was following some sources yesterday, and it's been reported that the Biden administration gave the Taliban a list of all military personal and all Afghans who aided them over the past 18 years. The list is being referred to as a death list. 

Yeah nah you lost me here. That would be singularly retarded. Even without doing something that batshit, this is a really bad look for US services. Most operations are logistically contingent on the cooperation of local parties, and this whole shambolic exit will make it very difficult to gain anyones trust in the future.

 

There are reasons why I don't talk about certain things. Often enough people ridicule or fence with what's been told to them.

 

 

 

And surprise. US citizens are still "trapped" in Afghanistan.

 Wow my bad, you're actually right about this. Guess I didn't wanna believe that we could be that stupid.

 is this a fucking joke lmao? is scary music and text 'proof'?

 I didn't watch the videos tbh.. It's been reported in Politico, The Washington Post and NY Times.

And Biden's quote on the matter: “I can’t tell you with any certitude that there’s actually been a list of names. … It could very well have happened.”

Spatial's post is kind of an embellishment though, nothing to say it was a list of all aiding personnel over the past 18 years, and wasn't provided with the intent of being a "kill list". 

The actual story seems to be that after the Taliban guaranteed (lol, it's the Taliban, but still) safe passage out of Afghanistan, the US provided a manifesto of people seeking to exit to make it easier for them to access the airport, but it inadvertently blew everyones cover.

 The first video's source is Politico.

So why not use a legit primary source as collateral rather than esoteric (and in the case of the second one, bizarrely conspiratorial) YouTube videos? Just seems a confusing way to back up your point when there's lots of bona fide intel. 

Like if I was trying to convince you that water's wet, a Reddit monologue prolly wouldn't be my first instinct.

 The 2nd one is from the Hindustan Times. Next time I'll seek out something more western for your taste. Maybe CNN or some shit.

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I don't know about ya'll, but when I catch a tough pill to swallow, I have the ability to search for answers myself and make sense of what I saw, as opposed to being closed minded and ignorant.

 

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non western entities are capable of being full of shit too, just like cnn is ;)

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Outro said: 
Outro said: 
Outro said: 
Outro said: 

I was following some sources yesterday, and it's been reported that the Biden administration gave the Taliban a list of all military personal and all Afghans who aided them over the past 18 years. The list is being referred to as a death list. 

Yeah nah you lost me here. That would be singularly retarded. Even without doing something that batshit, this is a really bad look for US services. Most operations are logistically contingent on the cooperation of local parties, and this whole shambolic exit will make it very difficult to gain anyones trust in the future.

 

There are reasons why I don't talk about certain things. Often enough people ridicule or fence with what's been told to them.

 

 

 

And surprise. US citizens are still "trapped" in Afghanistan.

 Wow my bad, you're actually right about this. Guess I didn't wanna believe that we could be that stupid.

 is this a fucking joke lmao? is scary music and text 'proof'?

 I didn't watch the videos tbh.. It's been reported in Politico, The Washington Post and NY Times.

And Biden's quote on the matter: “I can’t tell you with any certitude that there’s actually been a list of names. … It could very well have happened.”

Spatial's post is kind of an embellishment though, nothing to say it was a list of all aiding personnel over the past 18 years, and wasn't provided with the intent of being a "kill list". 

The actual story seems to be that after the Taliban guaranteed (lol, it's the Taliban, but still) safe passage out of Afghanistan, the US provided a manifesto of people seeking to exit to make it easier for them to access the airport, but it inadvertently blew everyones cover.

 The first video's source is Politico.

So why not use a legit primary source as collateral rather than esoteric (and in the case of the second one, bizarrely conspiratorial) YouTube videos? Just seems a confusing way to back up your point when there's lots of bona fide intel. 

Like if I was trying to convince you that water's wet, a Reddit monologue prolly wouldn't be my first instinct.

 The 2nd one is from the Hindustan Times. Next time I'll seek out something more western for your taste. Maybe CNN or some shit.

 

I mean... Al Jazeera would be fine too. Hindustan Times is just a little heavy on cricket news for my tastes.

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Your first response to the same content

Outro said:
Wow my bad, you're actually right about this. Guess I didn't wanna believe that we could be that stupid.

Actually, you are.

Now we're here a page later, debating the validity of these videos we know are correct, but they are not good enough cause there isn't some guy in a suit sitting at a desk serving it to you.

 

 

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Your first response to the same content

Outro said:
Wow my bad, you're actually right about this. Guess I didn't wanna believe that we could be that stupid.

Actually, you are.

Now we're here a page later, debating the validity of these videos we know are correct, but they are not good enough cause there isn't some guy in a suit sitting at a desk serving it to you.

 

 

 oh tony...there's no need for that now is there?

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