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LiYang said: 

well? i call bullshit on psychopaths and sociopaths.

im going to rename you all to wanabe freaks, thats a better name

 I dont want to be a psychopath you dumb fuck. Im just very interested in psychology and other sciences that prove useful in the real world.

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LiYang said: 
Matrix said: 
LiYang said: 
LiYang said: 

What makes you think they are psychopaths?

well, he was definitely one not her. they look like my great grandparents, ellen and magnus, his face a bit difficult to see here. ive seen other pics of them i saw this in the basement about a week ago

 

They had 10 children, 5 males and 5 women, all males were alcoholics. many sociopaths in my family

 psychopathy is fake news, how do you measure it?

 You measure psychopathy by the persons apparent lack of empathy. That’s according to psychologists. Measuring sociopathy is totally different.

 what? you wire up an empathy meter to their head? how do you measure it?

 I just responded to your question in an edit before I saw your question.

 

An example scenario. For instance to determine if somebody can be diagnosed with aspd(psychopathy or sociopathy but psychopathy in this case). Psychologists can use family, friends neighbours or work collegues as informants to observe there empathetic responses to certain things. This observation in the persons level of empathy regarding certain situations and actions can be reported back to psychologists to give the psychologists a concrete profile of the person.

Thats why in general psychopaths are constantly playing a false role of some kind. To distract or throw off the scent that there might be something abnormal about them.

In the psychological world there are both contracted informants(fully aware of there job to gather information on a client) or non contracted informants(Informants that are not given the role of gathering information of a person but instead are taken in to questioning by psychologists to gain information on the client this can be family friends or aquaintences)

The non contracted informants will be asked questions such as

“When the person has harmed somebody, do they usually express distress or are not bothered by it”

Obviously the answer to this question where they distressed or not cannot fully answer to whether the client is pathological. So they use more informants and ask more questions only to finally build a profile. Which they can use to diagnose then assess, manage and manipulate the person for therapeutic and rehabilitation purposes. 

Because god knows that you don’t want to be clinically evaluated as a psychopath or any other axis 1 or axis 2 disorders. Diagnoses of psychopath can be pretty shitty and can have no positive effect at all. 

People usually want to appear psychopathic because they are neurotic and infact deep down are plagued by anxiety. Its completely different from actual psychopaths. 

This is all i have learned from being involved in therapy with other people.

last edit on 8/8/2021 8:40:09 PM
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Matrix said: 
LiYang said: 

well? i call bullshit on psychopaths and sociopaths.

im going to rename you all to wanabe freaks, thats a better name

 I dont want to be a psychopath you dumb fuck. Im just very interested in psychology and other sciences that prove useful in the real world.

 HAHAHA, psychology is not science wanabe freak

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LiYang said: 
Matrix said: 
LiYang said: 

well? i call bullshit on psychopaths and sociopaths.

im going to rename you all to wanabe freaks, thats a better name

 I dont want to be a psychopath you dumb fuck. Im just very interested in psychology and other sciences that prove useful in the real world.

 HAHAHA, psychology is not science wanabe freak

Why are you here if you dont believe in psychology you dumb fuck.

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it is whatever you want to call it

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Matrix said: 
LiYang said: 
Matrix said: 
LiYang said: 
LiYang said: 

What makes you think they are psychopaths?

well, he was definitely one not her. they look like my great grandparents, ellen and magnus, his face a bit difficult to see here. ive seen other pics of them i saw this in the basement about a week ago

 

They had 10 children, 5 males and 5 women, all males were alcoholics. many sociopaths in my family

 psychopathy is fake news, how do you measure it?

 You measure psychopathy by the persons apparent lack of empathy. That’s according to psychologists. Measuring sociopathy is totally different.

 what? you wire up an empathy meter to their head? how do you measure it?

 I just responded to your question in an edit before I saw your question.

 

An example scenario. For instance to determine if somebody can be diagnosed with aspd(psychopathy or sociopathy but psychopathy in this case). Psychologists can use family, friends neighbours or work collegues as informants to observe there empathetic responses to certain things. This observation in the persons level of empathy regarding certain situations and actions can be reported back to psychologists to give the psychologists a concrete profile of the person.

Thats why in general psychopaths are constantly playing a false role of some kind. To distract or throw off the scent that there might be something abnormal about them.

In the psychological world there are both contracted informants(fully aware of there job to gather information on a client) or non contracted informants(Informants that are not given the role of gathering information of a person but instead are taken in to questioning by psychologists to gain information on the client this can be family friends or aquaintences)

The non contracted informants will be asked questions such as

“When the person has harmed somebody, do they usually express distress or are not bothered by it”

Obviously the answer to this question where they were distressed or not cannot fully answer to whether the client is pathological. So they use more informants and ask more questions only to finally build a profile. Which they can use to assess, manage and manipulate the person for therapeutic and rehabilitation purposes.

Because god knows that you don’t want to be clinically evaluated as a psychopath or any other axis 1 or axis 2 disorders.

This is all i have learned from being involved in therapy with other people.

 So it's up to some opinion? pretty weak. how do you measure it scientifically?

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LiYang said: 
Matrix said: 
LiYang said: 
Matrix said: 
LiYang said: 
LiYang said: 

What makes you think they are psychopaths?

well, he was definitely one not her. they look like my great grandparents, ellen and magnus, his face a bit difficult to see here. ive seen other pics of them i saw this in the basement about a week ago

 

They had 10 children, 5 males and 5 women, all males were alcoholics. many sociopaths in my family

 psychopathy is fake news, how do you measure it?

 You measure psychopathy by the persons apparent lack of empathy. That’s according to psychologists. Measuring sociopathy is totally different.

 what? you wire up an empathy meter to their head? how do you measure it?

 I just responded to your question in an edit before I saw your question.

 

An example scenario. For instance to determine if somebody can be diagnosed with aspd(psychopathy or sociopathy but psychopathy in this case). Psychologists can use family, friends neighbours or work collegues as informants to observe there empathetic responses to certain things. This observation in the persons level of empathy regarding certain situations and actions can be reported back to psychologists to give the psychologists a concrete profile of the person.

Thats why in general psychopaths are constantly playing a false role of some kind. To distract or throw off the scent that there might be something abnormal about them.

In the psychological world there are both contracted informants(fully aware of there job to gather information on a client) or non contracted informants(Informants that are not given the role of gathering information of a person but instead are taken in to questioning by psychologists to gain information on the client this can be family friends or aquaintences)

The non contracted informants will be asked questions such as

“When the person has harmed somebody, do they usually express distress or are not bothered by it”

Obviously the answer to this question where they were distressed or not cannot fully answer to whether the client is pathological. So they use more informants and ask more questions only to finally build a profile. Which they can use to assess, manage and manipulate the person for therapeutic and rehabilitation purposes.

Because god knows that you don’t want to be clinically evaluated as a psychopath or any other axis 1 or axis 2 disorders.

This is all i have learned from being involved in therapy with other people.

 So it's up to some opinion? pretty weak. how do you measure it scientifically?

 Thats the whole point of psychology. Its not concrete like other sciences. Its based purely on theory, but theory that can be somehow scientifically merited otherwise psychology would’ve never made itself into a mainstream social science studied by millions of people around the world.

Also its been said that psychopathy can also be assessed through neurological assessment. Like a brain scan can show dysfunction in the frontal lobe causing impuslivity and a lack of empathy. Or a brain tumor that can cause pathological patterns of behaviour and emotional distress. So psychology does have a fundamental use in a broad range of subjects. Not just the diagnosis and therapy of people. But also in the medical world and managing people who have serious impairment because  of brain injury, brain cancer or other types of neurological issues.

 

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Matrix said: 
LiYang said: 
Matrix said: 
LiYang said: 
Matrix said: 
LiYang said: 
LiYang said: 

What makes you think they are psychopaths?

well, he was definitely one not her. they look like my great grandparents, ellen and magnus, his face a bit difficult to see here. ive seen other pics of them i saw this in the basement about a week ago

 

They had 10 children, 5 males and 5 women, all males were alcoholics. many sociopaths in my family

 psychopathy is fake news, how do you measure it?

 You measure psychopathy by the persons apparent lack of empathy. That’s according to psychologists. Measuring sociopathy is totally different.

 what? you wire up an empathy meter to their head? how do you measure it?

 I just responded to your question in an edit before I saw your question.

 

An example scenario. For instance to determine if somebody can be diagnosed with aspd(psychopathy or sociopathy but psychopathy in this case). Psychologists can use family, friends neighbours or work collegues as informants to observe there empathetic responses to certain things. This observation in the persons level of empathy regarding certain situations and actions can be reported back to psychologists to give the psychologists a concrete profile of the person.

Thats why in general psychopaths are constantly playing a false role of some kind. To distract or throw off the scent that there might be something abnormal about them.

In the psychological world there are both contracted informants(fully aware of there job to gather information on a client) or non contracted informants(Informants that are not given the role of gathering information of a person but instead are taken in to questioning by psychologists to gain information on the client this can be family friends or aquaintences)

The non contracted informants will be asked questions such as

“When the person has harmed somebody, do they usually express distress or are not bothered by it”

Obviously the answer to this question where they were distressed or not cannot fully answer to whether the client is pathological. So they use more informants and ask more questions only to finally build a profile. Which they can use to assess, manage and manipulate the person for therapeutic and rehabilitation purposes.

Because god knows that you don’t want to be clinically evaluated as a psychopath or any other axis 1 or axis 2 disorders.

This is all i have learned from being involved in therapy with other people.

 So it's up to some opinion? pretty weak. how do you measure it scientifically?

 Thats the whole point of psychology. Its not concrete like other sciences. Its based purely on theory, but theory that can be somehow scientifically merited otherwise psychology would’ve never made itself into a mainstream social science studied by millions of people around the world.

Also its been said that psychopathy can also be assessed through neurological assessment. Like a brain scan can show dysfunction in the frontal lobe causing impuslivity and a lack of empathy. Or a brain tumor that can cause pathological patterns of behaviour and emotional distress. So psychology does have a fundamental use in a broad range of subjects. Not just the diagnosis and therapy of people. But also in the medical world and managing people who have serious impairment because  of brain injury, brain cancer or other types of neurological issues.

 

 I'm not saying it's not useful to understand people outward behavior, just don't pretend you really understand what is going on inside someones head.

You cannot measure someone's empathy, therefore you have no basis to say someone has low or high empathy.

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A diagnosis of psychopathy is probably unlikely to happen unless the person has clear neurological deficits in there frontal lobe. Examined by a cat scan.

Also lets just think. A person who is diagnosed as an aspd due to a brain tumor will be noted on there medical records. This is more valuable than anything. Because this gives the neccerssary requirements for people and other health professional to manage aggressive behaviours  and a lack of empathy through behavioural therapy and prescription drugs. Furthering the help of the patient with a brain tumor. Thats why psychology is very important. Without the assessment and diagnosis of aspd because of a brain tumor. The person might descend into pathological forms of behaviour and expression resulting in a vicious circle of emotional distress, lost relationships and financial loss.

The help with medication and behavioural therapy can actually prove useful in preventing a person with a brain tumor on the frontal lobe from engaging in aggressive behaviours and learning empathetic responses before its to late to come back from it.

 

last edit on 8/8/2021 8:53:44 PM
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0 votes RE: Psychopath
LiYang said: 
Matrix said: 
LiYang said: 
Matrix said: 
LiYang said: 
Matrix said: 
LiYang said: 
LiYang said: 

What makes you think they are psychopaths?

well, he was definitely one not her. they look like my great grandparents, ellen and magnus, his face a bit difficult to see here. ive seen other pics of them i saw this in the basement about a week ago

 

They had 10 children, 5 males and 5 women, all males were alcoholics. many sociopaths in my family

 psychopathy is fake news, how do you measure it?

 You measure psychopathy by the persons apparent lack of empathy. That’s according to psychologists. Measuring sociopathy is totally different.

 what? you wire up an empathy meter to their head? how do you measure it?

 I just responded to your question in an edit before I saw your question.

 

An example scenario. For instance to determine if somebody can be diagnosed with aspd(psychopathy or sociopathy but psychopathy in this case). Psychologists can use family, friends neighbours or work collegues as informants to observe there empathetic responses to certain things. This observation in the persons level of empathy regarding certain situations and actions can be reported back to psychologists to give the psychologists a concrete profile of the person.

Thats why in general psychopaths are constantly playing a false role of some kind. To distract or throw off the scent that there might be something abnormal about them.

In the psychological world there are both contracted informants(fully aware of there job to gather information on a client) or non contracted informants(Informants that are not given the role of gathering information of a person but instead are taken in to questioning by psychologists to gain information on the client this can be family friends or aquaintences)

The non contracted informants will be asked questions such as

“When the person has harmed somebody, do they usually express distress or are not bothered by it”

Obviously the answer to this question where they were distressed or not cannot fully answer to whether the client is pathological. So they use more informants and ask more questions only to finally build a profile. Which they can use to assess, manage and manipulate the person for therapeutic and rehabilitation purposes.

Because god knows that you don’t want to be clinically evaluated as a psychopath or any other axis 1 or axis 2 disorders.

This is all i have learned from being involved in therapy with other people.

 So it's up to some opinion? pretty weak. how do you measure it scientifically?

 Thats the whole point of psychology. Its not concrete like other sciences. Its based purely on theory, but theory that can be somehow scientifically merited otherwise psychology would’ve never made itself into a mainstream social science studied by millions of people around the world.

Also its been said that psychopathy can also be assessed through neurological assessment. Like a brain scan can show dysfunction in the frontal lobe causing impuslivity and a lack of empathy. Or a brain tumor that can cause pathological patterns of behaviour and emotional distress. So psychology does have a fundamental use in a broad range of subjects. Not just the diagnosis and therapy of people. But also in the medical world and managing people who have serious impairment because  of brain injury, brain cancer or other types of neurological issues.

 

 I'm not saying it's not useful to understand people outward behavior, just don't pretend you really understand what is going on inside someones head.

You cannot measure someone's empathy, therefore you have no basis to say someone has low or high empathy.

 By empathy I mean by the level and intensity of the diagnostic criteria symptoms that has to be met to warrant for a disgnosis of AsPD. Or for any kind of disorder that is.

Obviously you can never be diagnosed as a psychopath. But they can mention that you show high levels of psychopathy from assessment/examination. In medical records.

last edit on 8/8/2021 8:59:30 PM
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