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Turncoat said: 

Spatial Mind said:

The greater our consciousness the more kind we'll be.

How does this account for the ones who know how to fake the game, like the mock pleasantries type who follow 'please and thank you' more as a rule than a mindset? 

Why would it account for them ?

In any case there's nothing wrong with being polite and while they, as you say, fake the game, it's still considerate in the heat of the moment, and it'll work out just fine.

Kindness is without a doubt associated with high intelligence along with the six other attributes mentioned here.

I'd argue otherwise, as what is kindness if every other trait is lacking? A charitable fool, an easy mark. 

If every other trait is lacking ? lol. Why does it mean all of a sudden other traits are lacking if someone is kind ?

It may come as a surprise to you, but it's not a bright idea to be unkind to strangers, business associates, friends, family, children, criminals, and every type of human being you can think of. And no being kind doesn't default the subject to a charitable fool. 

They need the more classical form of intelligence on top of it if they hope to do anything with said kindness, and I'd argue much good could be done in the world without it as a virtue, as long as it's still in the name of progress or stability. Lawful inclinations in such cases can accomplish far more than good, as those bonds inherently pave the means for teamwork regardless of personal creed. 

A world without kindness ? You find that more intelligent ? You'd be damned to be among such a civilization.

From the day we're born, we are to be taken care of for years. When children have it rough under their development, they end up with life long mental issues.

If the human condition lacked any sense of kindness, we wouldn't have made it this far. We simply wouldn't co-operate and mass produce any goods. 

Understanding this I know it goes for all animals as well and I'd intuitively argue, any pet who lives kindly would've scored more prizes in it's lifetime by it's adoptee, as opposed to a rowdy misbehaved pet who get's more timeouts, while prone to abandonment.

I dunno, I tend to see the clever rebel as having a bit more going on upstairs than a lovable oaf. 

 You really don't know.

There are reasons why we don't typically keep certain animals as pets, and that mainly has to do with us having to bend backward or pay the actual price of keeping such an animal. Your clever rebel would find it's way to your food supply while you sleep, make messes, defile the home etc. 

But no, I'm not talking about some dopey creature as you'd assume, though a lovable oaf could be more intelligent than you'd give credit for. 

Spatial Mind said: 

Turncoat said: 

Spatial Mind said:

The greater our consciousness the more kind we'll be.

How does this account for the ones who know how to fake the game, like the mock pleasantries type who follow 'please and thank you' more as a rule than a mindset? 

Why would it account for them?

You explain how it does in the following: 

In any case there's nothing wrong with being polite and while they, as you say, fake the game, it's still considerate in the heat of the moment, and it'll work out just fine.
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It may come as a surprise to you, but it's not a bright idea to be unkind to strangers, business associates, friends, family, children, criminals, and every type of human being you can think of. And no being kind doesn't default the subject to a charitable fool. 

When you can consider how this benefits a legitimately kind person just as much as a charlatan, this moreso notes to me that situational awareness is key, rather than kindness itself. 

Does this mean your being unkind towards Jim is unwise? 

Kindness is without a doubt associated with high intelligence along with the six other attributes mentioned here.

I'd argue otherwise, as what is kindness if every other trait is lacking? A charitable fool, an easy mark. 

If every other trait is lacking ? lol. Why does it mean all of a sudden other traits are lacking if someone is kind ?

In simpler words: If someone is kind but stupid, they will be taken advantage of, hence 'an easy mark'. By comparison, someone who is mean but otherwise intelligent is more liable to go places relatively speaking. 

It's really more about one's ability to view and affect the bigger picture, rather than how 'kind' they seem within it. There's plenty of 'kind' people who have nothing to show for it with plenty of the upper 1% who constitute it's foil succeeding to the degree it ought to be criminal. 

They need the more classical form of intelligence on top of it if they hope to do anything with said kindness, and I'd argue much good could be done in the world without it as a virtue, as long as it's still in the name of progress or stability. Lawful inclinations in such cases can accomplish far more than good, as those bonds inherently pave the means for teamwork regardless of personal creed. 

A world without kindness ? You find that more intelligent ? You'd be damned to be among such a civilization.

From the day we're born, we are to be taken care of for years. When children have it rough under their development, they end up with life long mental issues.

If the human condition lacked any sense of kindness, we wouldn't have made it this far. We simply wouldn't co-operate and mass produce any goods. 

I was arguing how 'kindness' can be accomplished as a matter of utility, much like you're also saying. It's really more about 'law' than 'good' that binds people together, as even a heinous individual can work in tandem with a saint as long as their codes of conduct are aligned. 

You argue that there is utility in said 'kindness', that it makes for a quantifiably intelligent choice as a matter of causality rather than it even being about charity, and that it'd pay for those who are themselves not kind to fake it. This sounds more like obeying a set of laws, rather than being a person prone to charitable impulses, as if you'd choose this for pragmatic reasons as opposed to pious ones. 

Understanding this I know it goes for all animals as well and I'd intuitively argue, any pet who lives kindly would've scored more prizes in it's lifetime by it's adoptee, as opposed to a rowdy misbehaved pet who get's more timeouts, while prone to abandonment.

I dunno, I tend to see the clever rebel as having a bit more going on upstairs than a lovable oaf. 

You really don't know.

When it comes to pets, it shows discernable intelligence. We only need to look as far as our conversion of wolves into dogs to see that compliance does not necessarily equate to intelligence. 

I'd place the fox above the rabbit when it comes to IQ, considering how foxes can reason through a surprising amount of situations, yet which one would you say is kinder? 

There are reasons why we don't typically keep certain animals as pets, and that mainly has to do with us having to bend backward or pay the actual price of keeping such an animal. Your clever rebel would find it's way to your food supply while you sleep, make messes, defile the home etc. 

Technically it's more in humankind's nature to domesticate the problem traits out of them over generations of cross-breeding and cultivation, much like we've done to much of our crops. A lot of both our pets and our food is far from what God had originally provided for us here on Earth, showing even Nature as capable of falling away from His original vision. 

For your convenience I have added line markers, so that you won't get lost. 

What have I done to Jim ? Some years ago I gave his broke stay at home jobless self $50 so he can eat. Today he likes to run around boasting as though he scammed me out of thousands of dollars, meanwhile I'm here pulling in thousands of dollars a day and on course to being a multi millionaire in 2021.

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The highest awareness is very empathic and will experience what it does to others. It's not intelligent to pierce oneself in more ways than biting a hand that feeds us.

In my ex profession, an asshole would get fired, cause a digital artists mood is projected in their work and it messed with focus in general. 

A high intelligence knows that being considerate of others is in fact of service to the self.

A high intelligence holds their composure. 

Intelligence is associated with what's good. 

I know what I'm saying is starting to annoy you, cause you're an atheist, and the highest form of intelligence is divine and goes far beyond what you strive to make of yourself.

Spatial Mind said: 

What have I done to Jim? Some years ago I gave his broke stay at home jobless self $50 so he can eat. Today he likes to run around boasting as though he scammed me out of thousands of dollars, meanwhile I'm here pulling in thousands of dollars a day and on course to being a multi millionaire in 2021.

Your memory problems are starting to get spooky dude, you even defended yourself with the same half of a Benjamin the last time we discussed this. It's eerie that I can keep throwing the same accusation and you keep taking it like it's fresh news. 

I'll save us both the reruns and not push this further, my knowing what you did will simply have to be enough. 

The highest awareness is very empathic and will experience what it does to others.

Awareness is nothing on it's own, you need to be wise enough to know what you're even looking at if it's to be understood for more than just shapes and colors. 

In my ex profession, an asshole would get fired, cause a digital artists mood is projected in their work and it messed with focus in general. 

It's a pretty mixed bag in that you need to be receptive enough to understand others' concerns while also detached enough to maintain your own vision. 

A high intelligence knows that being considerate of others is in fact of service to the self.

A high intelligence holds their composure. 

Intelligence is associated with what's good. 

You make it sound like law, rather than good. 

I know what I'm saying is starting to annoy you, cause you're an atheist, and the highest form of intelligence is divine and goes far beyond what you strive to make of yourself.

I'm trying to have a discussion with you on this, it hasn't hit the point of annoying yet..? 

Turncoat said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

What have I done to Jim? Some years ago I gave his broke stay at home jobless self $50 so he can eat. Today he likes to run around boasting as though he scammed me out of thousands of dollars, meanwhile I'm here pulling in thousands of dollars a day and on course to being a multi millionaire in 2021.

Your memory problems are starting to get spooky dude, you even defended yourself with the same half of a Benjamin the last time we discussed this. It's eerie that I can keep throwing the same accusation and you keep taking it like it's fresh news. 

I'll save us both the reruns and not push this further, my knowing what you did will simply have to be enough. 

Okay, but you should elaborate on my so called unkindness toward Jim since you brought it up.

A high intelligence knows that being considerate of others is in fact of service to the self.

A high intelligence holds their composure. 

Intelligence is associated with what's good. 

You make it sound like law, rather than good. 

Natural laws are functional.

I know what I'm saying is starting to annoy you, cause you're an atheist, and the highest form of intelligence is divine and goes far beyond what you strive to make of yourself.

I'm trying to have a discussion with you on this, it hasn't hit the point of annoying yet..? 

 Sure it has.

As usual you learn a lot then deny it, while you never have anything to teach me.

Like I know awareness isn't everything and how we need to be smart enough to make sense of what we're observing. Not really mind blowing stuff there, but thanks for the effort anyway.

Spatial Mind said: 

Turncoat said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

What have I done to Jim? Some years ago I gave his broke stay at home jobless self $50 so he can eat. Today he likes to run around boasting as though he scammed me out of thousands of dollars, meanwhile I'm here pulling in thousands of dollars a day and on course to being a multi millionaire in 2021.

Your memory problems are starting to get spooky dude, you even defended yourself with the same half of a Benjamin the last time we discussed this. It's eerie that I can keep throwing the same accusation and you keep taking it like it's fresh news. 

I'll save us both the reruns and not push this further, my knowing what you did will simply have to be enough. 

Okay, but you should elaborate on my so called unkindness toward Jim since you brought it up.

How many times repeated would you say is a good number? 

All it's done every time I've brought it up is piss you off and destroy the discussion. Rather than that, I'm going with 'kindness' for the moment. 

A high intelligence knows that being considerate of others is in fact of service to the self.

A high intelligence holds their composure. 

Intelligence is associated with what's good. 

You make it sound like law, rather than good. 

Natural laws are functional.

Natural laws arguably aren't 'good', they simply are what they are. 

I know what I'm saying is starting to annoy you, cause you're an atheist, and the highest form of intelligence is divine and goes far beyond what you strive to make of yourself.

I'm trying to have a discussion with you on this, it hasn't hit the point of annoying yet..? 

Sure it has.

If I found it annoying, why would I be incessantly trying to make these conversations happen? 

My goal here's to get answers. 

As usual you learn a lot then deny it, while you never have anything to teach me.

I learn plenty from our talks, it's just a shame that you're usually so reluctant to carry them on. 

Like I know awareness isn't everything and how we need to be smart enough to make sense of what we're observing. Not really mind blowing stuff there, but thanks for the effort anyway.

So you agree that kindness is a hindrance without other things going for it, and that kindness can be faked enough to get the general advantages of it? 

Turncoat said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

Turncoat said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

What have I done to Jim? Some years ago I gave his broke stay at home jobless self $50 so he can eat. Today he likes to run around boasting as though he scammed me out of thousands of dollars, meanwhile I'm here pulling in thousands of dollars a day and on course to being a multi millionaire in 2021.

Your memory problems are starting to get spooky dude, you even defended yourself with the same half of a Benjamin the last time we discussed this. It's eerie that I can keep throwing the same accusation and you keep taking it like it's fresh news. 

I'll save us both the reruns and not push this further, my knowing what you did will simply have to be enough. 

Okay, but you should elaborate on my so called unkindness toward Jim since you brought it up.

How many times repeated would you say is a good number? 

All it's done every time I've brought it up is piss you off and destroy the discussion. Rather than that, I'm going with 'kindness' for the moment. 

Oh. Yet again you're talking about the time when you posed as Jim, while doxing up my family's location so I threatened to contact his sister. 

I know the answer but I'll ask. Did you ever apologize to him for that ? 

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A high intelligence knows that being considerate of others is in fact of service to the self.

A high intelligence holds their composure. 

Intelligence is associated with what's good. 

You make it sound like law, rather than good. 

Natural laws are functional.

Natural laws arguably aren't 'good', they simply are what they are. 

Yeah, and it would be what it is, even if our technology never worked. But as it turns out our technology is bound to natural laws like everything else, but the fact that it's useful, simply isn't good enough now is it ?

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I know what I'm saying is starting to annoy you, cause you're an atheist, and the highest form of intelligence is divine and goes far beyond what you strive to make of yourself.

I'm trying to have a discussion with you on this, it hasn't hit the point of annoying yet..? 

Sure it has.

If I found it annoying, why would I be incessantly trying to make these conversations happen? 

My goal here's to get answers. 

Why ? Because you're pessimistic and you enjoy it.

Chapo favors what I said here, dddddd favors it, MissC favors it. Then there's you, no surprise there, here we go heading toward perpetual disagreement.  

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As usual you learn a lot then deny it, while you never have anything to teach me.

I learn plenty from our talks, it's just a shame that you're usually so reluctant to carry them on. 

I don't sleep as much as I'd like, because I have important things to do. It also gets boring so I stuff in some time here, or whatever else I do.

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Like I know awareness isn't everything and how we need to be smart enough to make sense of what we're observing. Not really mind blowing stuff there, but thanks for the effort anyway.

So you agree that kindness is a hindrance without other things going for it, and that kindness can be faked enough to get the general advantages of it? 

 A hindrance to what exactly ? We really can't just strip down kindness into an empty vessel and say "look at it now", while in reality we honestly cannot take anything away from it.

A genuine reaction to an act of kindness can certainly be produced even if the act of kindness is from the disingenuous. Though if they do it for beneficial reasons and do find it rewarding, I don't see why choosing to be nice won't make them happy. 

You autistic narc's this thread is about MY drama. Make your own you pigs

ddddddd said: 

You autistic narc's this thread is about MY drama. Make your own you pigs

Make it more interesting then, this forum's practically ADD. 

Turncoat said: 

ddddddd said: 

You autistic narc's this thread is about MY drama. Make your own you pigs

Make it more interesting then, this forum's practically ADD. 

 Wait as the story develops. Maybe something more interesting will happen.