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Nah man, Gaara was sassy as fuck and needed to be humbled. His backstory makes it look like he's all sad and forlorn over being ignored and having no friends or family to lean on, but there's many ways that people can find themselves responding to it. 

If he'd had a stable normal life, he'd still be prideful. He and his village simply would have gone down a different timeline of struggles and difficulties without him being nearly as powerful. 

Power comes from suffering in this setting, as we can see by comparing their paragons to their badass normals. 

Gaara wasn't sassy at all he was psychotic.

He was totally sassy, it's not like there's only one way to be psychotic. His setting hardened him, but it didn't specifically push him to be prideful. 

His issue was hubris, and a non-psychotic Gaara would have simply been a weaker twat with the same problems. 

And he was sad because there had been multiple assassination attempts on his life and the last one broke him because it was his uncle who was ordered by his father

More like this hardened him towards understanding the world he's a part of, and even with him softening he still understood techniques like 'sand burial' from prior to that. 

His wasn't just "wah i have no friends~" it's "my own village is trying to kill me, my own family is trying to kill me i need to be willing to kill everyone" and we see that from how little he cares for his siblings and threatens to murder them a couple of times. 

Yeah, his life was rough, and now he's Hokage. 

Seems like he was rewarded for it. 

If he had a stable normal life with the demon sealed within him? I think he'd be just as power, better adjusted and maybe slightly less impulsive and psychotic.

He couldn't have a normal stable life with the one tailed beast as he'd still have crippling levels of insomnia

He'd also likely have decreased willpower, meaning Shukaku would have had an easier time controlling him which, in turn, would have led to his village hating him more anyway. 

I think he did grow more from that than without it, even if it could be argued he did not handle 'the dark side' with as much forethought as he could have. It was these sorts of paths that pushed his diligence and obsession. 

Idk i think it was more masked his outbursts than grow from it, he gets things he wanted which was to be praised constantly, to lead and to be thought as more important.

I mean... he was more important. He's basically the last survivor of a dying bloodline of super powered illusionists. 

The only thing that'd compare to it relatively speaking is having a nine-tailed beast sealed inside of you. 

I don't think these things really helps him grow as they get discarded pretty soon there after. The praise from oroichimaru is just cos the body he wants is nearer to him and he's excited, the team he led pretty much breaks up after he kills pierces Karen's chest to get to Danzó and leaves her to die, he's not really a team player and he basically exiles himself right after the war after claiming he wanted to change the village (destroy or lead i forget which). 

Yeah, he basically has the 'Tangled' approach to mentoring. 

I wish Orochimaru had succeeded tbh, it'd have made for more interesting writing. 

His obsession ends up being not fulfilling as he learns that he killed his brother over a lie, that he goes right back to the village that killed his family and changes nothing really. And then to top it off tells others the dark side is not the way to go.

You act like him failing at his mission means it wasn't otherwise the best path for him. There's more worth looking at here than just the results, but rather them reaching fulfilment through what options they find themselves taking. 

If he'd slain Naruto, Sasuke would have become something glorious. 

Doesn't the Sharingan specifically get stronger from horrible pain and trauma? From the looks of it, it powers up through intense emotions pushing through formerly unpressed thresholds, similar to Saiyan power in the Dragonball series. 

Yeah but it's also like a really fucked up way to have bloodline cos apparently Uchihas are all about emotIONS. Shisui was pretty strong without the need to go through pain and trauma he somehow awakens it, but he ends up killing himself and itachi watches and that's how he gets mangekyou sharingan. 

He had to witness someone close to him die and blame himself for it after witnessing a war's worth of struggle (which is a bullshit opening to awaken the eyes but whatever show you do you). 

Uchiha power is repressed within the confines of a comfortable life, just like Saiyans. 

It's only a thing that happens to certain individuals in the clan, Madara, obito, sasuke and itachi and like 3 others I'm forgetting. It's not a whole clan thing as I'm pretty sure a lot of them were participating in the war. So yeah i guess it's more traumatic tragedy rather than like super violent trauma is what triggers it?

Their power is triggered by strife and pain, like a defense mechanism, but if that defense is to be turned towards offense then they need to be leading harsher lives. 

A softer Kakashi would have potentially not even been teaching students at all. 

Kakashi didn't teach those kids anything other than tree walking before he threw them into the chunin exams and then he only focused on sasuke afterwards. And he didn't even want to teach them to begin with, he was forced to do it by the hokage and even if he failed them would have been made to mentor sasuke anyways cos... sharingan

So you're saying that Kakashi shouldn't have been teaching them at all? 

I disagree about the training, I'd imagine that Kakashi reading porn in front of children helped enable Naruto's sexy-jutsu all the more, and that from that the Pervy Sage had one more reason to notice him. He otherwise did help them with the basics, even if he was a lazy fucker when not fixating on his former mentor PTSD.

If she'd gotten over her fear of blood, she could have continued fighting and killing people, this is true. 

This is one case where lacking the psychological treatment necessary held her back, but she could have arguably been pushed further and ended up even stronger. Strongarm types tend to get even more powerful when forced to behave within more feral tropes. 

She drank and racked up debt instead and had a severe phobia that didn't exactly help her fight against kabuto.

She was made into a d.i.d pretty quickly.

Drinking does tend to go hand in hand with the strongarm powerset, especially with how they, err, drew her. But yes I agree she's one of the few who could have been a better murderer with some 'psycho'therapy. 

Perhaps I've been looking at this wrong; It's less of a problem that they have therapy, and more of a problem that they have Shonen Jump therapy. They are in dire need... of a Psycho Psychologist

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So this is what you've been doing with your unemployment. Are you part of r/antiwork by any chance?

It's what I did with college like a decade ago, what rock have you been living under? 

This is like calling someone lazy for having watched TMNT. 

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Whorechata said:
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Outdoing Tsunade is just an aspect of her youth, and not being weighed down by such heavy sweater-cows. Clearly Sakura was meant to be her 'replacement', so naturally she'd be written as surpassing somewhere down the line.

I disagree as Shizune also had the same chance as sakura and wasn't weighed down by sweater cows.

Sakura and Tsunade have near-identical powersets and surprisingly similar tropes alongside the plot armor of being part of the main three. It's beyond fated that she'd have been the mentor for Sakura, almost as if she was written for her after the fact or something

Ehhhhh i mean both Sasuke and Saruto got scouted by the other two sannins where Sakura had to beg to get an apprenticeship. The only helpful advice Kakashi gave her was that she was Genjutsu typed and then it was never brought up ever again. And yes I get it but also no, it's just really bad female writing and i hate it. 

Female writing's liable to suffer in battle anime, we ought to be thankful it didn't go the proportional direction of shows like Sekirei or History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi. 

Sakura was meant to be a placeholder, i think if it were up to Kishimoto she'd have probably been killed in the forest of death but he still needed one female to prove sasuke wasn't gay.
He still seems pretty bi, not gonna lie. 

Either that or anime conventions have rubbed off on me. 
Seems it but Shonen Jump is mostly heterosexual. or was when this was just starting out.
You wouldn't know it by looking at their cast and crew. 😘

The fans see through it, more so than Joker's Helga Pataki-esque obsession with Batman. 


Kishi is shit at writing women and he admits it.

For real though, his female characters were shit. 

The only time they were written somewhat well was when he let other people write/flesh them out. Otherwise he just made them revert back to his character sheets. 

Most of them are just character sheets anyway, it's depressing. 

Character sheets offer the room for writers to venture how one would socially live with their power set, like X-Men or My Hero Academia. Naruto meanwhile is closer to Bleach in that their powers are their character if it's not main crew or it's mentors. 

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Did any of u end up watching Jujutsu kaisen or did u just start researching Naruto?

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Did any of u end up watching Jujutsu kaisen or did u just start researching Naruto?

 I'm at ep 5 rn and I'm kinda loving it so far 

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what is this autistic weeb shit

 I am sufficiently shamed.

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Sakura wasn't useless but yes now, i watch 

What'd she even accomplish? 

Best medicnin in the 5 shinobi countries, surpassed tsunade and is a frontline combatant while establishing the first mental health clinic for children so that they weren't immediately pushed into being ninjas

Medicine's one of those things where others could have found it if someone else didn't, at least while it's within the range of herbology. 

Outdoing Tsunade is just an aspect of her youth, and not being weighed down by such heavy sweater-cows. Clearly Sakura was meant to be her 'replacement', so naturally she'd be written as surpassing somewhere down the line. 

Mental health programs for ninjitsu is arguably capable of weakening their ninjitsu, rather than strengthening it. This setting is about survival versus rival clans, and the sand clan's shown that a harsh demeanor is a stronger one. The strongest ninjas have continuously been the most disturbed, so helping with mental health programs means introducing weakness to the clan, meaning others could overtake them in time with their own PTSD armies. 

 You sound severely autistic. Do you ever connect to real emotions? You know the point of watching Anime or any kind of fantasy is enjoying the atmosphere, get emotionally driven by the characters and stories etc and not to dissect everything in hardcore autist mode until people want to punch you in your snapple, right? Can you dream? Can you imagine

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ddddddd said: 

Sakura wasn't useless but yes now, i watch 

What'd she even accomplish? 

Best medicnin in the 5 shinobi countries, surpassed tsunade and is a frontline combatant while establishing the first mental health clinic for children so that they weren't immediately pushed into being ninjas

Medicine's one of those things where others could have found it if someone else didn't, at least while it's within the range of herbology. 

Outdoing Tsunade is just an aspect of her youth, and not being weighed down by such heavy sweater-cows. Clearly Sakura was meant to be her 'replacement', so naturally she'd be written as surpassing somewhere down the line. 

Mental health programs for ninjitsu is arguably capable of weakening their ninjitsu, rather than strengthening it. This setting is about survival versus rival clans, and the sand clan's shown that a harsh demeanor is a stronger one. The strongest ninjas have continuously been the most disturbed, so helping with mental health programs means introducing weakness to the clan, meaning others could overtake them in time with their own PTSD armies. 

 You sound severely autistic. Do you ever connect to real emotions? You know the point of watching Anime or any kind of fantasy is enjoying the atmosphere, get emotionally driven by the characters and stories etc and not to dissect everything in hardcore autist mode until people want to punch you in your snapple, right? Can you dream? Can you imagine

 Um, do you not discuss stuff and theories of movies, shows or books you've read even after you've finished watching them? 

I feel like it's pretty normal to do so even if it seems you somewhat autistic. It's how you get fans for things. If you aren't enjoying it and aren't invested in the story there'd be no discussion at all and that's sorta..sad? 

Sakura is one of those characters that is either liked or hated and it makes sense to question someone else into defending and trying to see their point of view. This is fun i think. 

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