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Whorechata said: 

Turncoat said: 

Whorechata said: 

Sakura wasn't useless but yes now, i watch 

What'd she even accomplish? 

Best medicnin in the 5 shinobi countries, surpassed tsunade and is a frontline combatant while establishing the first mental health clinic for children so that they weren't immediately pushed into being ninjas

Medicine's one of those things where others could have found it if someone else didn't, at least while it's within the range of herbology. 

Outdoing Tsunade is just an aspect of her youth, and not being weighed down by such heavy sweater-cows. Clearly Sakura was meant to be her 'replacement', so naturally she'd be written as surpassing somewhere down the line. 

Mental health programs for ninjitsu is arguably capable of weakening their ninjitsu, rather than strengthening it. This setting is about survival versus rival clans, and the sand clan's shown that a harsh demeanor is a stronger one. The strongest ninjas have continuously been the most disturbed, so helping with mental health programs means introducing weakness to the clan, meaning others could overtake them in time with their own PTSD armies. 

Turncoat said: 

Whorechata said: 

Turncoat said: 

Whorechata said: 

Sakura wasn't useless but yes now, i watch 

What'd she even accomplish? 

Best medicnin in the 5 shinobi countries, surpassed tsunade and is a frontline combatant while establishing the first mental health clinic for children so that they weren't immediately pushed into being ninjas

Medicine's one of those things where others could have found it if someone else didn't, at least while it's within the range of herbology. 

Others did and weren't as able to reach her level, hinata would have been able to surpass her and didn't. While others are backed by clans and had better opportunities than Sakura to succeed. She was one of three genin at the time that didn't have clan abilities or supernatural demons locked into them and out of the three she was the only one that didn't have a teacher interested in teaching her in the beginning. She finally got that with Tsunade.

Outdoing Tsunade is just an aspect of her youth, and not being weighed down by such heavy sweater-cows. Clearly Sakura was meant to be her 'replacement', so naturally she'd be written as surpassing somewhere down the line. 

I disagree as Shizune also had the same chance as sakura and wasn't weighed down by sweater cows. 

Sakura was meant to be a placeholder, i think if it were up to Kishimoto she'd have probably been killed in the forest of death but he still needed one female to prove sasuke wasn't gay. Kishi is shit at writing women and he admits it. 

Mental health programs for ninjitsu is arguably capable of weakening their ninjitsu, rather than strengthening it.

No, I don't think that's accurate.or rather, I don't agree. Sasuke could have probably done better with positive praise from his father when he was using ninjustu(fireball). He got it done but it cause him to develop a complex 

This setting is about survival versus rival clans, and the sand clan's shown that a harsh demeanor is a stronger one. The strongest ninjas have continuously been the most disturbed, so helping with mental health programs means introducing weakness to the clan, meaning others could overtake them in time with their own PTSD armies. 

 Rival hidden villages rather than clans really, and sand was defeated twice in the span of 3 years, the sand siblings were beat both times and ultimately a fucking talking to was what Gaara needed to change into the hokage of his village where others feared him before they were afterwards supportive after he got talk no jutsu'd. 

I mean idk but i don't think sasuke benefitted from not getting psychological evaluations as he's tried to kill his teammates a couple of times, tried to kill hokages and then snapped completely. 

Kakashi not getting the help he needed after the war may have been good for the money he was bringing in taking missions and slaughtering people as a preteen in anbu but it left him reliving the past and unable to move forward to teach his own students adequately and instead made him fixate on only sasuke cos sharingan. 

Tsunade developed a fear of blood and left right after the war when she could have gotten some help and helped develop the medicnin corps even more than what it was before she returned.

Disturbed powerful individuals end up dead unless they're the main characters from what I've seen in this show. 

Whorechata said:

No, I don't think that's accurate.or rather, I don't agree. Sasuke could have probably done better with positive praise from his father when he was using ninjustu(fireball). He got it done but it cause him to develop a complex

Come on, even the classic heroes journey shows that strength comes from being orphaned or otherwise having a dark history, and are you going to tell me that circle of edgelords in that show would have been stronger if they weren't disturbed? They'd have that much more room to be lazy rather than diligent, reducing them to mere mundanes. 

Sasuke became as strong as he did over being disturbed and curse marked, without it he'd just be some boring Uchiha, and can you even imagine how sad Naruto would have been at his job if he didn't have the nine-tailed beast sealed inside of him? I know his dad sealing the beast into his kid was solely to save the village, but do you really think such ninjitsu magic was developed with that as it's purpose? 

Softening the ninja will just bring about their downfall, leading to an even harsher PTSD generation following it that'll be even less prepared for the harsh world of anime nature ninjas. 

Whorechata said: 

This setting is about survival versus rival clans, and the sand clan's shown that a harsh demeanor is a stronger one. The strongest ninjas have continuously been the most disturbed, so helping with mental health programs means introducing weakness to the clan, meaning others could overtake them in time with their own PTSD armies. 

Rival hidden villages rather than clans really, and sand was defeated twice in the span of 3 years, the sand siblings were beat both times and ultimately a fucking talking to was what Gaara needed to change into the hokage of his village where others feared him before they were afterwards supportive after he got talk no jutsu'd. 

Nah man, Gaara was sassy as fuck and needed to be humbled. His backstory makes it look like he's all sad and forlorn over being ignored and having no friends or family to lean on, but there's many ways that people can find themselves responding to it. 

If he'd had a stable normal life, he'd still be prideful. He and his village simply would have gone down a different timeline of struggles and difficulties without him being nearly as powerful. 

Power comes from suffering in this setting, as we can see by comparing their paragons to their badass normals. 

I mean idk but i don't think sasuke benefitted from not getting psychological evaluations as he's tried to kill his teammates a couple of times, tried to kill hokages and then snapped completely. 

I think he did grow more from that than without it, even if it could be argued he did not handle 'the dark side' with as much forethought as he could have. It was these sorts of paths that pushed his diligence and obsession. 

Doesn't the Sharingan specifically get stronger from horrible pain and trauma? From the looks of it, it powers up through intense emotions pushing through formerly unpressed thresholds, similar to Saiyan power in the Dragonball series. 

Kakashi not getting the help he needed after the war may have been good for the money he was bringing in taking missions and slaughtering people as a preteen in anbu but it left him reliving the past and unable to move forward to teach his own students adequately and instead made him fixate on only sasuke cos sharingan. 

A softer Kakashi would have potentially not even been teaching students at all. 

Tsunade developed a fear of blood and left right after the war when she could have gotten some help and helped develop the medicnin corps even more than what it was before she returned.

If she'd gotten over her fear of blood, she could have continued fighting and killing people, this is true. 

This is one case where lacking the psychological treatment necessary held her back, but she could have arguably been pushed further and ended up even stronger. Strongarm types tend to get even more powerful when forced to behave within more feral tropes. 

Disturbed powerful individuals end up dead unless they're the main characters from what I've seen in this show. 

The brightest flames go out the fastest, but if not burning brightly they'll never illuminate towards their truest potential. 

Living comfortable lives is preferable, but it's not the path of passion nor the path of power. 

Whorechata said:

Turncoat said:

Outdoing Tsunade is just an aspect of her youth, and not being weighed down by such heavy sweater-cows. Clearly Sakura was meant to be her 'replacement', so naturally she'd be written as surpassing somewhere down the line.

I disagree as Shizune also had the same chance as sakura and wasn't weighed down by sweater cows.

Sakura and Tsunade have near-identical powersets and surprisingly similar tropes alongside the plot armor of being part of the main three. It's beyond fated that she'd have been the mentor for Sakura, almost as if she was written for her after the fact or something. 

Sakura was meant to be a placeholder, i think if it were up to Kishimoto she'd have probably been killed in the forest of death but he still needed one female to prove sasuke wasn't gay.

Kishi is shit at writing women and he admits it.

For real though, his female characters were shit. 

Turncoat said: 

Whorechata said:

No, I don't think that's accurate.or rather, I don't agree. Sasuke could have probably done better with positive praise from his father when he was using ninjustu(fireball). He got it done but it cause him to develop a complex

Come on, even the classic heroes journey shows that strength comes from being orphaned or otherwise having a dark history, and are you going to tell me that circle of edgelords in that show would have been stronger if they weren't disturbed? They'd have that much more room to be lazy rather than diligent, reducing them to mere mundanes. 

Shikamaru is a good example of a well adjusted character with no trauma to spur him to being the strategist that he is. Naruto is...weird. I'm sure without the sponsorship of shonen jump behind it, the story would have been far more gruesome or at the very least less talky talky no jutsu. Naruto should be disturbed and almost psychotic but instead he's been given the plucky positive personality instead of being scarred from an almost assassination attempt. 

So yeah I'm gonna tell you that those main characters could have benefited from a bit of therapy and we could have seen something better than vengeance plots and almost gay obsessive friendship talks maybe something more creative. 

Sasuke became as strong as he did over being disturbed and curse marked, without it he'd just be some boring Uchiha, and can you even imagine how sad Naruto would have been at his job if he didn't have the nine-tailed beast sealed inside of him? I know his dad sealing the beast into his kid was solely to save the village, but do you really think such ninjitsu magic was developed with that as it's purpose? 

But sasuke uses the curse mark not even that much? And you could argue it's essentially a steroid that later gets removed by itachi. And Sasuke didn't become strong because of the mark but rather because of unlocking/taking mangekyou sharingan. There's one scene where he knocks out a bunch of ninja instead of killing them i guess but sword play is certainly something he could have learned in his own village, there's anbu for one, and Kakashi also used a sword in anbu. 

I would have preferred a kyuubi-less Naruto actually, it would have shown that hard work did pay off but instead he gets a power up whenever he needs it. Kyuubi-less Naruto would have maybe actually inherited his mother bloodline and would have been pretty cool to see. 

Softening the ninja will just bring about their downfall, leading to an even harsher PTSD generation following it that'll be even less prepared for the harsh world of anime nature ninjas. 

 It's literally a clinic for orphaned children to get help as orphans are often thrown directly into ninja academy. I don't see this as a bad thing, unstable individuals with power are not often the best teammates as Konoha is heavily team oriented. Teamwork and all that bullshit. 

In wave, you've got the disturbed individuals that you're wanting to see and that made for the bloody mist. Where they made it so to graduate you had to be the survivor of your class. That's how you got Zabuza, and then later the bloodline purges which is how you get Haku and him being the last of his bloodline, same with Kimimaru. If you're looking for disturbed you have that in Wave country. 

Also for being anime natured ninjas they did less ninjaing and more attempted politics even tho they had a daimyo...

Turncoat said: 

Whorechata said: 

This setting is about survival versus rival clans, and the sand clan's shown that a harsh demeanor is a stronger one. The strongest ninjas have continuously been the most disturbed, so helping with mental health programs means introducing weakness to the clan, meaning others could overtake them in time with their own PTSD armies. 

Rival hidden villages rather than clans really, and sand was defeated twice in the span of 3 years, the sand siblings were beat both times and ultimately a fucking talking to was what Gaara needed to change into the hokage of his village where others feared him before they were afterwards supportive after he got talk no jutsu'd. 

Nah man, Gaara was sassy as fuck and needed to be humbled. His backstory makes it look like he's all sad and forlorn over being ignored and having no friends or family to lean on, but there's many ways that people can find themselves responding to it. 

If he'd had a stable normal life, he'd still be prideful. He and his village simply would have gone down a different timeline of struggles and difficulties without him being nearly as powerful. 

Power comes from suffering in this setting, as we can see by comparing their paragons to their badass normals. 

Gaara wasn't sassy at all he was psychotic. And he was sad because there had been multiple assassination attempts on his life and the last one broke him because it was his uncle who was ordered by his father.  His wasn't just "wah i have no friends~" it's "my own village is trying to kill me, my own family is trying to kill me i need to be willing to kill everyone" and we see that from how little he cares for his siblings and threatens to murder them a couple of times. 

If he had a stable normal life with the demon sealed within him? I think he'd be just as power, better adjusted and maybe slightly less impulsive and psychotic.

I mean idk but i don't think sasuke benefitted from not getting psychological evaluations as he's tried to kill his teammates a couple of times, tried to kill hokages and then snapped completely. 

I think he did grow more from that than without it, even if it could be argued he did not handle 'the dark side' with as much forethought as he could have. It was these sorts of paths that pushed his diligence and obsession. 

Idk i think it was more masked his outbursts than grow from it, he gets things he wanted which was to be praised constantly, to lead and to be thought as more important. I don't think these things really helps him grow as they get discarded pretty soon there after. The praise from oroichimaru is just cos the body he wants is nearer to him and he's excited, the team he led pretty much breaks up after he kills pierces Karen's chest to get to Danzó and leaves her to die, he's not really a team player and he basically exiles himself right after the war after claiming he wanted to change the village (destroy or lead i forget which). 

His obsession ends up being not fulfilling as he learns that he killed his brother over a lie, that he goes right back to the village that killed his family and changes nothing really. And then to top it off tells others the dark side is not the way to go.

Doesn't the Sharingan specifically get stronger from horrible pain and trauma? From the looks of it, it powers up through intense emotions pushing through formerly unpressed thresholds, similar to Saiyan power in the Dragonball series. 

Yeah but it's also like a really fucked up way to have bloodline cos apparently Uchihas are all about emotIONS. Shisui was pretty strong without the need to go through pain and trauma he somehow awakens it, but he ends up killing himself and itachi watches and that's how he gets mangekyou sharingan. It's only a thing that happens to certain individuals in the clan, Madara, obito, sasuke and itachi and like 3 others I'm forgetting. It's not a whole clan thing as I'm pretty sure a lot of them were participating in the war. So yeah i guess it's more traumatic tragedy rather than like super violent trauma is what triggers it?

Kakashi not getting the help he needed after the war may have been good for the money he was bringing in taking missions and slaughtering people as a preteen in anbu but it left him reliving the past and unable to move forward to teach his own students adequately and instead made him fixate on only sasuke cos sharingan. 

A softer Kakashi would have potentially not even been teaching students at all. 

Kakashi didn't teach those kids anything other than tree walking before he threw them into the chunin exams and then he only focused on sasuke afterwards. And he didn't even want to teach them to begin with, he was forced to do it by the hokage and even if he failed them would have been made to mentor sasuke anyways cos... sharingan

Tsunade developed a fear of blood and left right after the war when she could have gotten some help and helped develop the medicnin corps even more than what it was before she returned.

If she'd gotten over her fear of blood, she could have continued fighting and killing people, this is true. 

This is one case where lacking the psychological treatment necessary held her back, but she could have arguably been pushed further and ended up even stronger. Strongarm types tend to get even more powerful when forced to behave within more feral tropes. 

She drank and racked up debt instead and had a severe phobia that didn't exactly help her fight against kabuto.

She was made into a d.i.d pretty quickly.

Disturbed powerful individuals end up dead unless they're the main characters from what I've seen in this show. 

The brightest flames go out the fastest, but if not burning brightly they'll never illuminate towards their truest potential. 

Living comfortable lives is preferable, but it's not the path of passion nor the path of power. 

 Zabuza and Haku maybe, Hidan needed to be snuffed tbh.

Turncoat said: 

Whorechata said:

Turncoat said:

Outdoing Tsunade is just an aspect of her youth, and not being weighed down by such heavy sweater-cows. Clearly Sakura was meant to be her 'replacement', so naturally she'd be written as surpassing somewhere down the line.

I disagree as Shizune also had the same chance as sakura and wasn't weighed down by sweater cows.

Sakura and Tsunade have near-identical powersets and surprisingly similar tropes alongside the plot armor of being part of the main three. It's beyond fated that she'd have been the mentor for Sakura, almost as if she was written for her after the fact or something. 

Ehhhhh i mean both Sasuke and Saruto got scouted by the other two sannins where Sakura had to beg to get an apprenticeship. The only helpful advice Kakashi gave her was that she was Genjutsu typed and then it was never brought up ever again. And yes I get it but also no, it's just really bad female writing and i hate it. 

Sakura was meant to be a placeholder, i think if it were up to Kishimoto she'd have probably been killed in the forest of death but he still needed one female to prove sasuke wasn't gay.

He still seems pretty bi, not gonna lie. 

Either that or anime conventions have rubbed off on me. 

Kishi is shit at writing women and he admits it.

For real though, his female characters were shit. 

 The only time they were written somewhat well was when he let other people write/flesh them out. Otherwise he just made them revert back to his character sheets. 

Whorechata said: 

Turncoat said: 

Whorechata said:

No, I don't think that's accurate.or rather, I don't agree. Sasuke could have probably done better with positive praise from his father when he was using ninjustu(fireball). He got it done but it cause him to develop a complex

Come on, even the classic heroes journey shows that strength comes from being orphaned or otherwise having a dark history, and are you going to tell me that circle of edgelords in that show would have been stronger if they weren't disturbed? They'd have that much more room to be lazy rather than diligent, reducing them to mere mundanes. 

Shikamaru is a good example of a well adjusted character with no trauma to spur him to being the strategist that he is.

You're using the jaded cynic as an example of well adjusted? 

Naruto is...weird. I'm sure without the sponsorship of shonen jump behind it, the story would have been far more gruesome or at the very least less talky talky no jutsu. Naruto should be disturbed and almost psychotic but instead he's been given the plucky positive personality instead of being scarred from an almost assassination attempt. 

So yeah I'm gonna tell you that those main characters could have benefited from a bit of therapy and we could have seen something better than vengeance plots and almost gay obsessive friendship talks maybe something more creative. 

Those are precisely what drew in it's audience if you talk to the fans, they like how disturbed people in the cast are. Why else do the fans tend to prefer members of the Akatsuki? 

Sasuke became as strong as he did over being disturbed and curse marked, without it he'd just be some boring Uchiha, and can you even imagine how sad Naruto would have been at his job if he didn't have the nine-tailed beast sealed inside of him? I know his dad sealing the beast into his kid was solely to save the village, but do you really think such ninjitsu magic was developed with that as it's purpose? 

But sasuke uses the curse mark not even that much? And you could argue it's essentially a steroid that later gets removed by itachi. 

It's a symbol of his profane dedication, and the writer seemed to get somewhat bored of the idea as Orochimaru became less of a villain in the shadows. 

The show's structure reads like the imagination of a child, especially when it comes to power sets, similar to that of Bleach and Yu Yu Hakusho. 

And Sasuke didn't become strong because of the mark but rather because of unlocking/taking mangekyou sharingan.

If he led a well balanced life the way Cheerios leads a well balanced breakfast, he'd have essentially normal eyes. The curse mark helped push the desperation further as a symbol of his turning away from the Leaf village. 

There's one scene where he knocks out a bunch of ninja instead of killing them i guess but sword play is certainly something he could have learned in his own village, there's anbu for one, and Kakashi also used a sword in anbu. 

So you'd rather he be a swordfighter than a Mangekyou Sharingan mindfucker? 

Talk about wasted potential, if they did alternate universe tournaments like DBZ did, such a Sasuke would be depressingly weak. It'd be like a Rock Lee who thought body building was for chumps. 

I would have preferred a kyuubi-less Naruto actually, it would have shown that hard work did pay off but instead he gets a power up whenever he needs it. Kyuubi-less Naruto would have maybe actually inherited his mother bloodline and would have been pretty cool to see. 

The only preferable thing about it would be him being less ADHD, and even then as he matured the writers clearly noticed that it was rubbing fans the wrong way (chilling him the fuck out with Pervy Sage training). I actually enjoyed the idea (not the execution as much) of Naruto being obnoxious over how it'd force the fans to pick other characters from the ensemble to be their favorites. 

I actually liked the nine tailed fox sealing angle, I just wish they'd made it more Berserk-levels of disturbing. You don't often see someone try to write a story where the protagonist is blessed with suck from being overpowered, and they didn't bring it to Superman levels either. While I don't think the writing succeeded, I do appreciate that he's not a raw Mary Sue, but rather a plot armored determinator. 

Softening the ninja will just bring about their downfall, leading to an even harsher PTSD generation following it that'll be even less prepared for the harsh world of anime nature ninjas. 

It's literally a clinic for orphaned children to get help as orphans are often thrown directly into ninja academy.

Exactly, there is no call to adventure louder than the death of your own family, and the Uchihas, once prominent members of the Leaf village, get that. 

They are introducing weakness. 

I don't see this as a bad thing, unstable individuals with power are not often the best teammates as Konoha is heavily team oriented. Teamwork and all that bullshit. 

That's cultural values muddling the path to power as they advance towards whatever they'd call a more modern age, much like how the modern person is significantly less adjusted for war compared to earlier eras of glory and conquest. 

You've seen some of Baruto right? They softened the fuck up and even eat burgers and shit now. 

In wave, you've got the disturbed individuals that you're wanting to see and that made for the bloody mist.

In this setting, being disturbed leads to zeal and diligence to an endless degree alongside the willingness to cross ethical lines. I understand that when it comes to something purely physical, but these are metaphysical super wizards with the anime equivalent to cutie mark powers, meaning if they don't push those limits in their lifetime then they may never see progress made in that area. 

They're also supposed to be ninja, they're typically about working alone in the shadows undetected. The idea of working as teams is blasphemous. 

Where they made it so to graduate you had to be the survivor of your class. That's how you got Zabuza, and then later the bloodline purges which is how you get Haku and him being the last of his bloodline, same with Kimimaru. If you're looking for disturbed you have that in Wave country. 

A lot of these powers come out from being pushed to further extremes. If they cannot survive their own training, then how are they supposed to survive war, let alone war with genjutsu and shit? 

It makes sense that this world would be built on the backs of hardship, much like our own history. 

Also for being anime natured ninjas they did less ninjaing and more attempted politics even tho they had a daimyo...

For real, Naruto at the start was a safety cone wearing Barbarian, a complete clash compared to the members of his village. That's almost the best thing about him; That he's not the rest of the show. 

I otherwise blame the age group this person aimed for, they should have tried writing for adults. 

Turncoat said: 

Whorechata said: 

Turncoat said: 

Whorechata said:

No, I don't think that's accurate.or rather, I don't agree. Sasuke could have probably done better with positive praise from his father when he was using ninjustu(fireball). He got it done but it cause him to develop a complex

Come on, even the classic heroes journey shows that strength comes from being orphaned or otherwise having a dark history, and are you going to tell me that circle of edgelords in that show would have been stronger if they weren't disturbed? They'd have that much more room to be lazy rather than diligent, reducing them to mere mundanes. 

Shikamaru is a good example of a well adjusted character with no trauma to spur him to being the strategist that he is.

You're using the jaded cynic as an example of well adjusted? 

Naruto is...weird. I'm sure without the sponsorship of shonen jump behind it, the story would have been far more gruesome or at the very least less talky talky no jutsu. Naruto should be disturbed and almost psychotic but instead he's been given the plucky positive personality instead of being scarred from an almost assassination attempt. 

So yeah I'm gonna tell you that those main characters could have benefited from a bit of therapy and we could have seen something better than vengeance plots and almost gay obsessive friendship talks maybe something more creative. 

Those are precisely what drew in it's audience if you talk to the fans, they like how disturbed people in the cast are. Why else do the fans tend to prefer members of the Akatsuki? 

Sasuke became as strong as he did over being disturbed and curse marked, without it he'd just be some boring Uchiha, and can you even imagine how sad Naruto would have been at his job if he didn't have the nine-tailed beast sealed inside of him? I know his dad sealing the beast into his kid was solely to save the village, but do you really think such ninjitsu magic was developed with that as it's purpose? 

But sasuke uses the curse mark not even that much? And you could argue it's essentially a steroid that later gets removed by itachi. 

It's a symbol of his profane dedication, and the writer seemed to get somewhat bored of the idea as Orochimaru became less of a villain in the shadows. 

The show's structure reads like the imagination of a child, especially when it comes to power sets, similar to that of Bleach and Yu Yu Hakusho. 

And Sasuke didn't become strong because of the mark but rather because of unlocking/taking mangekyou sharingan.

If he led a well balanced life the way Cheerios leads a well balanced breakfast, he'd have essentially normal eyes. The curse mark helped push the desperation further as a symbol of his turning away from the Leaf village. 

There's one scene where he knocks out a bunch of ninja instead of killing them i guess but sword play is certainly something he could have learned in his own village, there's anbu for one, and Kakashi also used a sword in anbu. 

So you'd rather he be a swordfighter than a Mangekyou Sharingan mindfucker? 

Talk about wasted potential, if they did alternate universe tournaments like DBZ did, such a Sasuke would be depressingly weak. It'd be like a Rock Lee who thought body building was for chumps. 

I would have preferred a kyuubi-less Naruto actually, it would have shown that hard work did pay off but instead he gets a power up whenever he needs it. Kyuubi-less Naruto would have maybe actually inherited his mother bloodline and would have been pretty cool to see. 

The only preferable thing about it would be him being less ADHD, and even then as he matured the writers clearly noticed that it was rubbing fans the wrong way (chilling him the fuck out with Pervy Sage training). I actually enjoyed the idea (not the execution as much) of Naruto being obnoxious over how it'd force the fans to pick other characters from the ensemble to be their favorites. 

I actually liked the nine tailed fox sealing angle, I just wish they'd made it more Berserk-levels of disturbing. You don't often see someone try to write a story where the protagonist is blessed with suck from being overpowered, and they didn't bring it to Superman levels either. While I don't think the writing succeeded, I do appreciate that he's not a raw Mary Sue, but rather a plot armored determinator. 

Softening the ninja will just bring about their downfall, leading to an even harsher PTSD generation following it that'll be even less prepared for the harsh world of anime nature ninjas. 

It's literally a clinic for orphaned children to get help as orphans are often thrown directly into ninja academy.

Exactly, there is no call to adventure louder than the death of your own family, and the Uchihas, once prominent members of the Leaf village, get that. 

They are introducing weakness. 

I don't see this as a bad thing, unstable individuals with power are not often the best teammates as Konoha is heavily team oriented. Teamwork and all that bullshit. 

That's cultural values muddling the path to power as they advance towards whatever they'd call a more modern age, much like how the modern person is significantly less adjusted for war compared to earlier eras of glory and conquest. 

You've seen some of Baruto right? They softened the fuck up and even eat burgers and shit now. 

In wave, you've got the disturbed individuals that you're wanting to see and that made for the bloody mist.

In this setting, being disturbed leads to zeal and diligence to an endless degree alongside the willingness to cross ethical lines. I understand that when it comes to something purely physical, but these are metaphysical super wizards with the anime equivalent to cutie mark powers, meaning if they don't push those limits in their lifetime then they may never see progress made in that area. 

They're also supposed to be ninja, they're typically about working alone in the shadows undetected. The idea of working as teams is blasphemous. 

Where they made it so to graduate you had to be the survivor of your class. That's how you got Zabuza, and then later the bloodline purges which is how you get Haku and him being the last of his bloodline, same with Kimimaru. If you're looking for disturbed you have that in Wave country. 

A lot of these powers come out from being pushed to further extremes. If they cannot survive their own training, then how are they supposed to survive war, let alone war with genjutsu and shit? 

It makes sense that this world would be built on the backs of hardship, much like our own history. 

 

 So this is what you've been doing with your unemployment. Are you part of r/antiwork by any chance?