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If you say so. 

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Is it possible that you're just misreading TC as using hedge phrases like most women use and because you see tc as male the 'uncertainty' you're seeing is making you believe it's for a backtrack use rather than inviting for conversation

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Is it possible that you're just misreading TC as using hedge phrases like most women use and because you see tc as male the 'uncertainty' you're seeing is making you believe it's for a backtrack use rather than inviting for conversation

 Possibly. If that were actually true Id be confused.

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Is it possible that you're just misreading TC as using hedge phrases like most women use and because you see tc as male the 'uncertainty' you're seeing is making you believe it's for a backtrack use rather than inviting for conversation

 Possibly. If that were actually true Id be confused.

 What do you see TC as? 

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Is it possible that you're just misreading TC as using hedge phrases like most women use and because you see tc as male the 'uncertainty' you're seeing is making you believe it's for a backtrack use rather than inviting for conversation

 Possibly. If that were actually true Id be confused.

 What do you see TC as? 

 A troll, basically. With a r/iamverysmart attitude. But hes not as mean deeper down. He's just scared to show his true colors in public.

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There's a difference between the "wow you're so smart"/"you're not as smart at you think"s, and the people questioning portions of the narrative in ways that show they were focusing. 

I've thrown in nonsense sentences mid-rant before to see if anyone'd pick it out, like a litmus test for their focus and capacity. 

 You sure that's not just made up to excuse when your called out for being "imperfect"?

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ddddddd said: 

He rarely writes in the chat but furiously writes on the forum since he has more time to obsess and neurotically control everything here. He changes his sentences, adds nuances etc. He could never do this in real life and be functional. His brain would explode trying to keep the neurotic control mode up with normal communication speed. His mental illness shows in patterns like this. 

 if he is really a schizophrenic, then he may not have and never had friends. it is possible that even in his early childhood he avoided communication with peers. many schizophrenics are very withdrawn and communicate only with their relatives. their speech is very poor and they do not have the skills of ordinary, friendly communication. they just have no need for it.

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There's a difference between the "wow you're so smart"/"you're not as smart at you think"s, and the people questioning portions of the narrative in ways that show they were focusing. 

I've thrown in nonsense sentences mid-rant before to see if anyone'd pick it out, like a litmus test for their focus and capacity. 

 You sure that's not just made up to excuse when your called out for being "imperfect"?

Why would I assume I'm perfect? 

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Modern psychologists should study the parables contained within the ancient scriptures. The Bible, for example, is not a history book - it's a manual of psychology, physiological regeneration and astrology, written in code (Parable, Gematria), providing us a path to enlightenment (atonement). Most people believe the Bible is a historical book to be taken literally. It’s not, it’s about you and YOUR path to enlightenment. You are the Protagonist. No one’s coming to save you. All of these parables were written about and for you. 

Luke 17:21, "The kingdom of God is within YOU" (one of the very few passages which actually means what it says) 

Take the teachings of Satan, for example; they're not about some evil red dude with horns - these parables are about our own egotistical human nature, they're about our "lizard brain" lower / carnal mind and how we must overcome it. But this obviously makes no sense if you believe the Bible is a literal book.

One must also have the mental faculties needed to grasp abstract concepts (very important) if we're to understand what is written. 

These teachings go back even further than the New Testament. Take this passage on Abraham from Kabbalah.info, for example...

"If we relate to the Torah as a historic tale, we will see that it is not very different from the histories of other nations. But the Torah does not deal with the past, rather it deals with us. It deals with each and every one of us; with who we are and what we are and what we must do with our lives.

The Creator appeals only to people, to each and every person. That is how the Torah explains the entire system of creation. Each person contains everything that exists in all the worlds inside him or her, including our own world. Besides humanity, there is only the Creator. Humanity is the representative of creation and of all the other worlds.

 

What ‘Abraham’ Really Is

The Creator turns to Abraham, who represents a specific attribute in us and who is like all other properties (nations) in a human (Av Ha’am, Abraham in Hebrew, means “the father of the nation”), and tells him: “I now separate this specific trait in you, which is called Abraham, and you must leave your country, meaning your situation and all the desires that you cur- rently feel. Go from your homeland, and break free from the desires you were born with.”

In other words, God tells Abraham that he must exit his original state of being, the state he was born into.

The Creator is inside Abraham’s primary egoistic desires, and he must leave them and go to the land that God will show him. There is where Abraham will find God. The Creator only appears before Abraham to compel him to take the path at the end of which He will appear before him in completeness. In that state, the entire creation will appear before Abraham, and he will obtain the opposite properties: eternity and completeness and the degree of the Creator Himself.

The Creator appears before every single one of us just as He did before Abraham. We have all felt, even if only once in our lives, an inner voice, an inner power and desire to live in a different way—to think more of timeless, meaningful things, leaving behind all the petty dealings and routines of life and slowly rising above them, somehow leaping out of them.

 

What Abraham’s Journey to Egypt Actually Signifies

By telling Abraham to leave his desires, the substance in which he was created and had been immersed, and go to another desire, one that God will show him, the Creator does not show us that we must ascend spiritually. Rather, He says that we must first go down to Egypt, meaning to the gutter, to our darkest and fiercest egoistic desires.

These desires are so egoistic that they are like the Egyptians in our world, who knew how to use the egoism so perfectly that they could mummify their bodies and preserve them virtually forever. They even made idols of their dead and were completely tied to their bodies. That means that the most perfect state is when Abraham has already been through Egypt.

The Creator doesn’t even say that Abraham must go through Egypt, but simply tells him to go there. It is an unreasonable commandment. After all, Abraham is an ordinary person, a shepherd who lives his daily life in the bosom of his family. Suddenly he is compelled to experience terribly low situations (called Egypt) to attain the higher spiritual state.

 

Why ’Recognition of Evil’ Is So Important for Spiritual Advancement

Abraham goes as far as Beit-El. This is likened to a person who attains spirituality and begins to be attracted to the books that concern that subject. He or she reads them, perhaps even begins to study Kabbalah, and thinks that this is Beit-El (house of the Lord).

When Abraham sacrifices to the Creator—when he begins to examine what life really asks of him, what the Creator and his inner voice want him to do—he suddenly begins to feel hunger. That hunger is so intense that it drives him off to Egypt. During a preliminary reading of the books, we begin to feel evergrowing pains, accompanied by a still greater spiritual hunger.

We begin to see ourselves through our innermost feelings as lower and meaner than ever. The world appears so petty, that this feeling is like going down to Egypt, meaning to our lowest desires. We cannot obtain the correct desires, under the direct instruction of the Creator, without first being in Egypt.

Our initial desires are very small, and even if we stretch them to the limit, they can only bring us as far as Beit-El, meaning the practice of the ordinary Torah, where we feel as if we have already entered the house of God, and the Garden of Eden and the next world are ready for us. But in fact, this is not the case!

The Torah should bring us first to the recognition of evil, to the feeling that we are completely egotistical and that all our desires are completely opposite to spirituality. If we experience that state, understand and internalize it, then we accept that that is also our own situation. People’s recognition of their ego must be an emotional, tangible experience. To the extent that they feel it this way, they begin to want to correct themselves. Therefore, the recognition of our ego as evil is a very long phase.

 

How to Develop Great Spiritual Hunger Like Abraham

To feel who you are and what your properties are, you must feel at least a little bit of what spirituality is like. You must experience these feelings to the fullest and examine them in every way. When the process is completed, you are granted exodus from Egypt. We cannot imagine what is not within us to begin with, what we never felt, and even what our fathers and our forefathers never felt. Because of that, it is only possible to bring us out of that state and throw us into the state of acquiring new desires through immense spiritual hunger. That hunger can only be developed and amplified in a group with a teacher and some very special books. If we read these books in the wrong order, it is very easy to be misled and deviate from the right path, which means a temporary halt in spiritual evolution.

We must always maintain a careful watch and examination, making sure we are on the right track. But in fact, even if we stand still, yet nevertheless desire spirituality, then the Creator Himself pushes us forward using that hunger. If the Creator turns to you, you feel it as that unique property called Abraham. That inner voice that you feel addresses you is called the Creator. The effort to understand it, the voice and indeed yourself, is what the Torah aspires for."

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Slimey said: 

Modern psychologists should study the parables contained within the ancient scriptures. The Bible, for example, is not a history book - it's a manual of psychology, physiological regeneration and astrology, written in code (Parable, Gematria), providing us a path to enlightenment (atonement). Most people believe the Bible is a historical book to be taken literally. It’s not, it’s about you and YOUR path to enlightenment. You are the Protagonist. No one’s coming to save you. All of these parables were written about and for you. 

Take the teachings of Satan, for example; they're not about some evil red dude with horns - these parables are about our own egotistical human nature, they're about our "lizard" brain/carnal mind and how we must overcome it. But this obviously makes no sense if you believe the Bible is a literal book.

One must also have the mental faculties needed to grasp abstract concepts. (very important) 

These teachings go back even further than the New Testament. Take this passage on Abraham from Kabbalah.info, for example...

"If we relate to the Torah as a historic tale, we will see that it is not very different from the histories of other nations. But the Torah does not deal with the past, rather it deals with us. It deals with each and every one of us; with who we are and what we are and what we must do with our lives.

The Creator appeals only to people, to each and every person. That is how the Torah explains the entire system of creation. Each person contains everything that exists in all the worlds inside him or her, including our own world. Besides humanity, there is only the Creator. Humanity is the representative of creation and of all the other worlds.

 

What ‘Abraham’ Really Is

The Creator turns to Abraham, who represents a specific attribute in us and who is like all other properties (nations) in a human (Av Ha’am, Abraham in Hebrew, means “the father of the nation”), and tells him: “I now separate this specific trait in you, which is called Abraham, and you must leave your country, meaning your situation and all the desires that you cur- rently feel. Go from your homeland, and break free from the desires you were born with.”

In other words, God tells Abraham that he must exit his original state of being, the state he was born into.

The Creator is inside Abraham’s primary egoistic desires, and he must leave them and go to the land that God will show him. There is where Abraham will find God. The Creator only appears before Abraham to compel him to take the path at the end of which He will appear before him in completeness. In that state, the entire creation will appear before Abraham, and he will obtain the opposite properties: eternity and completeness and the degree of the Creator Himself.

The Creator appears before every single one of us just as He did before Abraham. We have all felt, even if only once in our lives, an inner voice, an inner power and desire to live in a different way—to think more of timeless, meaningful things, leaving behind all the petty dealings and routines of life and slowly rising above them, somehow leaping out of them.

 

What Abraham’s Journey to Egypt Actually Signifies

By telling Abraham to leave his desires, the substance in which he was created and had been immersed, and go to another desire, one that God will show him, the Creator does not show us that we must ascend spiritually. Rather, He says that we must first go down to Egypt, meaning to the gutter, to our darkest and fiercest egoistic desires.

These desires are so egoistic that they are like the Egyptians in our world, who knew how to use the egoism so perfectly that they could mummify their bodies and preserve them virtually forever. They even made idols of their dead and were completely tied to their bodies. That means that the most perfect state is when Abraham has already been through Egypt.

The Creator doesn’t even say that Abraham must go through Egypt, but simply tells him to go there. It is an unreasonable commandment. After all, Abraham is an ordinary person, a shepherd who lives his daily life in the bosom of his family. Suddenly he is compelled to experience terribly low situations (called Egypt) to attain the higher spiritual state.

 

Why ’Recognition of Evil’ Is So Important for Spiritual Advancement

Abraham goes as far as Beit-El. This is likened to a person who attains spirituality and begins to be attracted to the books that concern that subject. He or she reads them, perhaps even begins to study Kabbalah, and thinks that this is Beit-El (house of the Lord).

When Abraham sacrifices to the Creator—when he begins to examine what life really asks of him, what the Creator and his inner voice want him to do—he suddenly begins to feel hunger. That hunger is so intense that it drives him off to Egypt. During a preliminary reading of the books, we begin to feel evergrowing pains, accompanied by a still greater spiritual hunger.

We begin to see ourselves through our innermost feelings as lower and meaner than ever. The world appears so petty, that this feeling is like going down to Egypt, meaning to our lowest desires. We cannot obtain the correct desires, under the direct instruction of the Creator, without first being in Egypt.

Our initial desires are very small, and even if we stretch them to the limit, they can only bring us as far as Beit-El, meaning the practice of the ordinary Torah, where we feel as if we have already entered the house of God, and the Garden of Eden and the next world are ready for us. But in fact, this is not the case!

The Torah should bring us first to the recognition of evil, to the feeling that we are completely egotistical and that all our desires are completely opposite to spirituality. If we experience that state, understand and internalize it, then we accept that that is also our own situation. People’s recognition of their ego must be an emotional, tangible experience. To the extent that they feel it this way, they begin to want to correct themselves. Therefore, the recognition of our ego as evil is a very long phase.

 

How to Develop Great Spiritual Hunger Like Abraham

To feel who you are and what your properties are, you must feel at least a little bit of what spirituality is like. You must experience these feelings to the fullest and examine them in every way. When the process is completed, you are granted exodus from Egypt. We cannot imagine what is not within us to begin with, what we never felt, and even what our fathers and our forefathers never felt. Because of that, it is only possible to bring us out of that state and throw us into the state of acquiring new desires through immense spiritual hunger. That hunger can only be developed and amplified in a group with a teacher and some very special books. If we read these books in the wrong order, it is very easy to be misled and deviate from the right path, which means a temporary halt in spiritual evolution.

We must always maintain a careful watch and examination, making sure we are on the right track. But in fact, even if we stand still, yet nevertheless desire spirituality, then the Creator Himself pushes us forward using that hunger. If the Creator turns to you, you feel it as that unique property called Abraham. That inner voice that you feel addresses you is called the Creator. The effort to understand it, the voice and indeed yourself, is what the Torah aspires for."

 

 I was always interested in that. why do people worship and honor either Jesus Christ or the Angel of Light Satan? why is it not customary to honor both of them? :) one of them is the Son of God, the other is an official of God who is entrusted with an important mission. it would be very nice if people could combine their need for spiritual enlightenment and the needs of their "lizard" brain / carnal mind. although we will probably just create androids controlled by neural networks, send them to study and colonize space, and we will blow up our damn, fucking planet. :)

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