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You shouldn't be ok with being a terrible person, bitch.

Whorechata said: 

I've for years have told others that I am a bad person

That's how you and many others have justified fishing, it lets being cute demand that they correct you. 

It's basically reverse psychology and pity rolled into one when you create the conditions for tons of "Oohhh you aren't so baaad". 

I want to know if others here think they are bad people and see how their answer swerves.

So based on their discomfort with saying they're bad people, you feel like you're winning in some way? 

The secondary question was how about you? Then Are you a bad person?

What even is a bad person to you? 

Because people online barely know me i don't particularly want them to answer for me whether I'm good or bad.

I do not need them to tell me things like those because they only know the person I've presented thus far. Does that make sense?

The "You don't know me" justification? I thought you were over that. 

This is no better than when Blanc says "Blanc is just a character", it still comes from you and is a blatant reflection of you. It's a weak cope to insist you must be better than others see you simply because of defending your self-perceived anonymity, as if you weren't so "bad" or whatever then why are people utilizing what you have shown of yourself to claim as much? 

Why would you choose to hide your good person parts and showcase your bad person ones? 

Turncoat said: 

Whorechata said: 

 

 You still haven't answered whether or not you're a bad person.

Ohh okay I get it now. 

You don't want to be alone as the only bad person. 

Turncoat said: 

Whorechata said: 

Tc chose a non answer as usual - safe

You didn't define what a "bad" person is, I have no criteria here. I've otherwise answered this stuff multiple times in alignment topics. 

What makes a person "bad"? 

 For me, it's someone that's done reprehensible things, 

I fit my definition of bad person. Because I didn't give a definition of what a bad person is, you'd be answering if you fit your definition of a bad person.

Whorechata said: 

Turncoat said: 

Whorechata said: 

 You still haven't answered whether or not you're a bad person.

Ohh okay I get it now. 

You don't want to be alone as the only bad person. 

Turncoat said: 

Whorechata said: 

Tc chose a non answer as usual - safe

You didn't define what a "bad" person is, I have no criteria here. I've otherwise answered this stuff multiple times in alignment topics. 

What makes a person "bad"? 

 For me, it's someone that's done reprehensible things, 

What is "reprehensible" to you? This is still all vague and relative. 

Someone could say you'd need to commit murder to be reprehensible, while another may simply see leaving fingerprints on freshly cleaned windows as the very same word. 

I fit my definition of bad person. Because I didn't give a definition of what a bad person is, you'd be answering if you fit your definition of a bad person.

How are we supposed to contribute to the topic without criteria? There needs to be a line drawn somewhere, a bar set. 

Whorechata said: 

QuietBeef said: 

Whorechata said: 

Crow chose to not answer and instead assume this is a grab for positive attention- safe

Doesn't feel like the safe option.  I could ramble about my inner conflict and no one would give a shit.  That's safe.  I think it's more interesting to talk about why you made a thread blatantly fishing to be reassured, especially when you'd call out anyone else doing the same thing in a heartbeat.  Does it actually alleviate guilt or shame for you, when people online who barely know you tell you that you're moral?

 I'd love to read about your inner conflict- unless is paragraphs without any sort of spacing.

Alright, I am actually interested in discussing this, so I'll indulge it in the hopes that you're being sincere.

It's an extremely broad question, which makes it difficult to answer.  My mind tends to go back and forth on it, depending on emotional states and circumstance, which makes my own assessment all the more dubious.  Especially since I've noticed that typically when I strongly feel I'm a good person is when I'm indignant about someone else not being one, which is a major red flag.  I do think about it a lot, arguably obsessively, and I'm really not sure if that's a good or bad sign for my character.  At the very least, I can be fairly certain that I'm not being aimlessly and ignorantly cruel or unfair.  I'm very intentional, morally.  (Not to say I haven't simply made mistakes or not noticed something, but my active decisions are not casual.)  But that says nothing on my ability to understand good from bad in the first place.

I sometimes go into ruts of guilt in which I feel like an absolutely terrible person that the world would be better off without, but the strength and contextlessness of these instances, as well as the fact that it tends to devolve into thought-policing myself, means they're probably just as meaningless as when I'm sure I'm a good person.

And either way, when I look around, all I see is people having bad reasons to think they're bad or bad reasons to think they're good.  There's such an astounding lack of moral self-awareness that I'd have to be a narc to think I'm any different from everybody else.  So I guess I just have to accept that I can't know.  That doing my best to be moral is an internally thankless job, because taking pride in it would only undermine it.  It's weird to feel compelled to work on something so much, knowing I'll never see my own results.

I've found that when I'm most comfortable with myself is when I feel connected to others in the understanding that we're all shitty people making tons of mistakes and hurting eachother, and there's a strange innocence in that.  Like we're all dogs tearing up the furniture, essentially out of our own control, neither gauging the magnitude nor the insignificance of the affect we're having on the world around us.  That's when I stop carrying a lot of my guilt as well as my anger at others.  It's a nice feeling.

Does this qualify as enough spacing? lol

I don't think I'm fishing to be reassured as I've for years have told others that I am a bad person, terrible really and that I'm okay with that.

I wouldn't think you'd keep bringing it up unprovoked for years, if you were actually okay with it.

I want to know if others here think they are bad people and see how their answer swerves. The title question was, again, already answered.

You know people well enough to know what kind of responses you were likely to get to making a thread literally titled "Am I a bad person?", answered or not.

The secondary question was how about you? Then Are you a bad person? The safe question was provided about food because I'm also interested in what others are today. I opened up a can of tomatillo sauce and dumped it in a bowl with avocado chunks and lemon juice and I've been kinda drinking it up with bread all day. I'm out of groceries.

I don't doubt you'd enjoy hearing people's answers to those questions, and had you asked them in a different context, I wouldn't bat an eye.  But you understand how a question about what you ate today looks immediately after making a big, attention-grabbing statement like "I'm a bad person", right?

Because people online barely know me i don't particularly want them to answer for me whether I'm good or bad. I do not need them to tell me things like those because they only know the person I've presented thus far. Does that make sense?

That would make sense, if that's how you felt, yes.  But this isn't your first ever thread of this nature, and I've even seen you make threads just to ask if you should do a bad thing (with few to no details of what that entails).  It's like you don't actually want to talk about whatever you're going through at the time, but you'd just like to hear the sound of someone telling you you're doing fine, so you go to strangers for it.  That's what it looks like from the outside, and if that's the case, I just don't understand what you're getting out of it.

Cavalier said: 

You shouldn't be ok with being a terrible person, bitch.

 For the sake of argument, why not?

QuietBeef said: 

Cavalier said: 

You shouldn't be ok with being a terrible person, bitch.

 For the sake of argument, why not?

I'd argue that it must not be that terrible to themselves if they're okay with it. 

Turncoat said: 

QuietBeef said: 

Cavalier said: 

You shouldn't be ok with being a terrible person, bitch.

 For the sake of argument, why not?

I'd argue that it must not be that terrible to themselves if they're okay with it. 

Equally so, I could argue that people simply are what they are, and it's a matter of acceptance.  It's possible for someone to know they're terrible, hate it, and not change.  Lack of acceptance of themselves may not make them a better person.  In fact, the denial and feelings of repression could potentially make it worse.

QuietBeef said: 

Whorechata said: 

QuietBeef said: 

Whorechata said: 

Crow chose to not answer and instead assume this is a grab for positive attention- safe

Doesn't feel like the safe option.  I could ramble about my inner conflict and no one would give a shit.  That's safe.  I think it's more interesting to talk about why you made a thread blatantly fishing to be reassured, especially when you'd call out anyone else doing the same thing in a heartbeat.  Does it actually alleviate guilt or shame for you, when people online who barely know you tell you that you're moral?

 I'd love to read about your inner conflict- unless is paragraphs without any sort of spacing.

Alright, I am actually interested in discussing this, so I'll indulge it in the hopes that you're being sincere.

It's an extremely broad question, which makes it difficult to answer. 

I think I see that..? I guess I just assumed you all have your definition of bad so that's what you would be answer it to, my idea of bad may not be your idea of bad- i guess it doesn't really make sense now that I think of it

My mind tends to go back and forth on it, depending on emotional states and circumstance, which makes my own assessment all the more dubious.  Especially since I've noticed that typically when I strongly feel I'm a good person is when I'm indignant about someone else not being one, which is a major red flag. 

I don't understand, why is it a red flag? 

I do think about it a lot, arguably obsessively, and I'm really not sure if that's a good or bad sign for my character.  At the very least, I can be fairly certain that I'm not being aimlessly and ignorantly cruel or unfair.  I'm very intentional, morally.  (Not to say I haven't simply made mistakes or not noticed something, but my active decisions are not casual.)  But that says nothing on my ability to understand good from bad in the first place.

I sometimes go into ruts of guilt in which I feel like an absolutely terrible person that the world would be better off without, but the strength and contextlessness of these instances, as well as the fact that it tends to devolve into thought-policing myself, means they're probably just as meaningless as when I'm sure I'm a good person.

And either way, when I look around, all I see is people having bad reasons to think they're bad or bad reasons to think they're good.  There's such an astounding lack of moral self-awareness that I'd have to be a narc to think I'm any different from everybody else.  So I guess I just have to accept that I can't know.  That doing my best to be moral is an internally thankless job, because taking pride in it would only undermine it.  It's weird to feel compelled to work on something so much, knowing I'll never see my own results.

I've found that when I'm most comfortable with myself is when I feel connected to others in the understanding that we're all shitty people making tons of mistakes and hurting eachother, and there's a strange innocence in that.  Like we're all dogs tearing up the furniture, essentially out of our own control, neither gauging the magnitude nor the insignificance of the affect we're having on the world around us.  That's when I stop carrying a lot of my guilt as well as my anger at others.  It's a nice feeling.

Does this qualify as enough spacing? lol

Yes, lol that's enough spacing.

Idunno, i feel like it's easier for me to just accept that I'm a bad person because then I dont have to keep thinking about it, but at the same time because I am a bad person i should therefore put more effort into being good and doing good things. It's overly simplified (?) But it helps me out to be less conflictive irl, i don't think my own logic is very sound, but it's helpful to me. 

I like that last bit, the dog bit it feels like a fantastic way to describe it. Existing and sharing within the same chaos? 

 

 

I don't think I'm fishing to be reassured as I've for years have told others that I am a bad person, terrible really and that I'm okay with that.

I wouldn't think you'd keep bringing it up unprovoked for years, if you were actually okay with it.

This is more wanting to know how others see themselves, i was hoping to avoid "this", the long drawn out theories of what op may or may not be saying that leads to long drawn out replies that essentially are just "what do you really mean though?" Silly me.

I want to know if others here think they are bad people and see how their answer swerves. The title question was, again, already answered.

You know people well enough to know what kind of responses you were likely to get to making a thread literally titled "Am I a bad person?", answered or not.

I feel like the only person I know well enough to answer in the way I know they would- would be tc.

The secondary question was how about you? Then Are you a bad person? The safe question was provided about food because I'm also interested in what others are today. I opened up a can of tomatillo sauce and dumped it in a bowl with avocado chunks and lemon juice and I've been kinda drinking it up with bread all day. I'm out of groceries.

I don't doubt you'd enjoy hearing people's answers to those questions, and had you asked them in a different context, I wouldn't bat an eye.  But you understand how a question about what you ate today looks immediately after making a big, attention-grabbing statement like "I'm a bad person", right?

Ive asked the unrelated question, especially about food in other topics I've made as well. I haven't recently but it is something I've done. Safe question. But also I'm out of groceries and i need ideas for food. I'm definitely getting cheetos.

Because people online barely know me i don't particularly want them to answer for me whether I'm good or bad. I do not need them to tell me things like those because they only know the person I've presented thus far. Does that make sense?

That would make sense, if that's how you felt, yes.  But this isn't your first ever thread of this nature, and I've even seen you make threads just to ask if you should do a bad thing (with few to no details of what that entails).  It's like you don't actually want to talk about whatever you're going through at the time, but you'd just like to hear the sound of someone telling you you're doing fine, so you go to strangers for it.  That's what it looks like from the outside, and if that's the case, I just don't understand what you're getting out of it.

 Hmm, that's pretty fair. I feel like I should have some answers to this but..

Whorechata said: 

QuietBeef said: 

Whorechata said: 

QuietBeef said: 

Whorechata said: 

Crow chose to not answer and instead assume this is a grab for positive attention- safe

Doesn't feel like the safe option.  I could ramble about my inner conflict and no one would give a shit.  That's safe.  I think it's more interesting to talk about why you made a thread blatantly fishing to be reassured, especially when you'd call out anyone else doing the same thing in a heartbeat.  Does it actually alleviate guilt or shame for you, when people online who barely know you tell you that you're moral?

 I'd love to read about your inner conflict- unless is paragraphs without any sort of spacing.

Alright, I am actually interested in discussing this, so I'll indulge it in the hopes that you're being sincere.

It's an extremely broad question, which makes it difficult to answer. 

I think I see that..? I guess I just assumed you all have your definition of bad so that's what you would be answer it to, my idea of bad may not be your idea of bad- i guess it doesn't really make sense now that I think of it

Yeah... at this point at least three people have asked for more clear guidelines. 

Most people tend to assume they aren't bad from the entire system being relative with themselves as the baseline, figuring people are either better or worse than themselves rather than factoring themselves onto some sort of bigger picture scale. If they do think they're bad that tends to be either more of a self-directed guilt trip or an infamy edgelord cope. If they're prone to thinking they're bad, like, all the time, it'd more often than not serve to showcase insecurities rather than demonstrate some sense of growth, demonstrating how quickly they'll feel guilt over something rather than appraising some sense of morality from their answer. 

The answer tends to show more of a reflection of how they see themselves versus their perception of what's around themselves, which is inevitably going to be projective in nature of what mechanisms are behind their morality, rather than some big picture collectivist sense of morality itself. Without some set of criteria outside of ourselves, like little checkboxes for traits or laws and customs that people follow, you're just asking people to state their ego in relativity to a biased perception of both events and reality. 

So to answer the question, I'd need to know what "bad" even is, as I'm mostly going off of "like" and "dislike". Do you mean if society at large would be cool with the things we do if we told it to them straight?