What even spurred this on, being sad and wanting to find an edgy ingroup?
No I just got into gothic rock recently.
There's a lot more to goth than that.
What even spurred this on, being sad and wanting to find an edgy ingroup?
No I just got into gothic rock recently.
There's a lot more to goth than that.
What even spurred this on, being sad and wanting to find an edgy ingroup?
No I just got into gothic rock recently.
There's a lot more to goth than that.
The entire thing sprang from liking gothic rock, did it not?
What even spurred this on, being sad and wanting to find an edgy ingroup?
No I just got into gothic rock recently.
There's a lot more to goth than that.
The entire thing sprang from liking gothic rock, did it not?
That's like comparing a house painter to a canvas painter; Both use paint but one's a much simpler, utilitarian version.
Goths since then also became an aesthetic, a mindset, and a conformity all of it's own that lived through "underground" shops that sold rarer stuff not otherwise catered towards a larger audience (yet). Goth is not what you saw marketted at Hot Topic, but rather it's those who saw Goth as dying who really respected the medium for what it was. It'd edgelord without the ego, and emo without the suffering, instead aiming for Stoicism tropes within a spooky costume.
South Park captures it perfectly, like, to the fucking letter, in the episode "Raisins" (while comparing Emos and Goths in "The Ungroundables").
What even spurred this on, being sad and wanting to find an edgy ingroup?
No I just got into gothic rock recently.
There's a lot more to goth than that.
The entire thing sprang from liking gothic rock, did it not?
That's like comparing a house painter to a canvas painter; Both use paint but one's a much simpler, utilitarian version.
Goths since then also became an aesthetic, a mindset, and a conformity all of it's own that lived through "underground" shops that sold rarer stuff not otherwise catered towards a larger audience (yet). Goth is not what you saw marketted at Hot Topic, but rather it's those who saw Goth as dying who really respected the medium for what it was. It'd edgelord without the ego, and emo without the suffering, instead aiming for Stoicism tropes within a spooky costume.
South Park captures it perfectly, like, to the fucking letter, in the episode "Raisins" (while comparing Emos and Goths in "The Ungroundables").
Funny thing about the aesthetic is, the goth music doesn't exactly hit me as "black" sounding. I've made a few edits showing my vision of what goth rock conjures in my head personally, to me it's almost like dark and bright at once. Maybe it's the 80s vibes. I can appreciate all forms of progressive/psychadelic music so I suppose my liking of the genre boils down to that.
I actually wandered from dark ambient to darkwave because a record label for dark ambient also did darkwave so I looked into the genre. While I'll admit 70s prog is more "technically" impressive, I think postpunk/goth rock/darkwave are more lyrically interesting. I also find the use of textures and effects with the guitars to be quite unique to the genre. Same goes with shoegaze though that can be more samey than its 80s descendants.
I guess I'm just a music nerd going from style to style until there is no more styles to get into. It's not that I'm part of any subculture I take interest in music itself and the different moods different sonic palettes can bring about. It's my hobby to collect knowledge on it.
What even spurred this on, being sad and wanting to find an edgy ingroup?
No I just got into gothic rock recently.
There's a lot more to goth than that.
The entire thing sprang from liking gothic rock, did it not?
That's like comparing a house painter to a canvas painter; Both use paint but one's a much simpler, utilitarian version.
Goths since then also became an aesthetic, a mindset, and a conformity all of it's own that lived through "underground" shops that sold rarer stuff not otherwise catered towards a larger audience (yet). Goth is not what you saw marketted at Hot Topic, but rather it's those who saw Goth as dying who really respected the medium for what it was. It'd edgelord without the ego, and emo without the suffering, instead aiming for Stoicism tropes within a spooky costume.
South Park captures it perfectly, like, to the fucking letter, in the episode "Raisins" (while comparing Emos and Goths in "The Ungroundables").Funny thing about the aesthetic is, the goth music doesn't exactly hit me as "black" sounding. I've made a few edits showing my vision of what goth rock conjures in my head personally, to me it's almost like dark and bright at once. Maybe it's the 80s vibes. I can appreciate all forms of progressive/psychadelic music so I suppose my liking of the genre boils down to that.
Either that or Speedcore aesthetic has gotten to you.
Dark + Bright together is closer in resemblance to Emo aesthetic, especially the 12 to 14 demographic that these days are all 'memers' instead (usually with furry or vampire aesthetic).
I actually wandered from dark ambient to darkwave because a record label for dark ambient also did darkwave so I looked into the genre. While I'll admit 70s prog is more "technically" impressive, I think postpunk/goth rock/darkwave are more lyrically interesting. I also find the use of textures and effects with the guitars to be quite unique to the genre. Same goes with shoegaze though that can be more samey than its 80s descendants.
You're a fan of the goth genre, but you're far from goth. Even going clubbing in what's calling itself goth these days among the adults is a very different energy compared to your youthful optimism.
I guess I'm just a music nerd going from style to style until there is no more styles to get into. It's not that I'm part of any subculture I take interest in music itself and the different moods different sonic palettes can bring about. It's my hobby to collect knowledge on it.
You're a music collector, why not leave it at that?
I don't listen to Jazz and assume I'm a Beatnik or something (even if Beatniks were pretty cool).