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Transgenderism and the problem of Essentialism


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There’s a phrasing you often here coming from transgender individuals and the lgbt community as a whole, that is “I was born X and its not a choice” or “I was born this way”, or ‘I’ve always been X I was just born in the wrong body Y”, etc. What I find particularly interesting about this is that it is fundamentally a essentialist view given it is more a matter of identity which puts them in the same grouping of beliefs as racial supremacists whom usually directly appose transgender identity and homosexuality. This is ironic for both sides given both need this essentialism of identity to justify their own views and ground them.

Essentialism as a view is difficult to uphold when not grounded genetically, when it is abstract like in this case one must first show that one can even know the essensia of something and that I no easy task and probably one of the most difficult epistemic conjectures one can make with any validity.

Maybe there is some sort of genetic proof for these ideas, I am ignorant in that area of study for the most part. If so let me know, but if not then there does seem to be a fundamental issue in the ideas of homosexuals and trans who take up this particular approach to identity. I would think a much more valid approach is the subjective constructionist arguement. 

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Do you have weird dreams now?

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LiYang said: 

Do you have weird dreams now?

 I'm not entirely sure. 

 I do seem to be having dreams far more frequently or rather I have a greater interesting in remembering them. 

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LiYang said: 

Do you have weird dreams now?

 I'm not entirely sure. 

 I do seem to be having dreams far more frequently or rather I have a greater interesting in remembering them. 

 nice butterfly wings btw

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I mostly just saw it as an offshoot of the "are people born gay" argument, but over a sense of entitlement over having felt "like the other gender" since childhood. 

I identified more with girls than boys when I was younger, but it didn't really mean as much until I was older. 


For homosexuality it's a lot easier to argue the idea of them having been born that way, while gender identity's more of a societal filter based around where self-identity ended up peer modeling. 

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There's this conflict between truscum (the essentialists you're referring to), and mainstream sjws. Kinda like the terf - sjw conflict.

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I agree with TC 

 

but it’s probably a combination of nature and nurture 

 

neurologically some have hypothesized homosexualities origin was possibly in just neurological differences in the brain. In layman’s terms, Gay people have their “wires crossed” 

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Which would mean that punishing someone for being gay or transgender would be the same as punishing someone for having ADD 

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It depends on how literally you're taking those arguments.  As TC said, it's typically more a sense of entitlement to their feelings, a need to reinforce their validity with consistency in the face of that being one of the primary challenges brought by their opposition, the notion of transtrenders, mental illness, and men in dresses.  Being "born that way" wouldn't even be a point of contention were that not used as an arbitrary scale of value to justify the negative emotional response.

This is arguably similar to racial supremacist logic, but no more so than the essentialist idea of gender itself which pushes against the transgender objective, and in doing so creates it.  I wouldn't particularly say the transgender perspective is essentialist, so much as it must exist in an essentialist culture.  Whereas racial supremacy is an essentialist backlash to a decreasingly essentialist culture.

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