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alrighty. So I didn’t want to make this thread until it was more certain. 

 

My grandmother has covid, yes she’s in a high risk age group but she is not considered immune compromised necessarily. She is an alcoholic and has blood pressure issues, and chronic sinus infections for some reason. But that’s about it. 

 

She took a rapid test and tested positive, but I told her to take a PCR to be sure. As the rapid tests can be inaccurate, and she even though it was just a sinus infection it was so mild. I thought the infection may have thrown off the test making it say covid positive, when really it was just, high t-cells causing it to read positive from the other infection. 

 

Anyway, she went and got a PCR the next day, and Tested positive. 

 

The dates: 

 

She came down to visit my entire family, last week. She arrived I on the 6th of November in the evening. She had visited a friend named Ray on the 3rd who did test positive six                                                                      days after the day of her visit with him (the 9th?) (i believe). she visited a friend on the 5th, who I don’t know if he has tested, but he is a priest. And she visited a friend on the 6th, who tested negative I don’t know when she took her test though. I don’t know which tests were used on the friend and Ray. She also attended church the 3rd, 4th, and 5th. 

 

When she arrived on the 6th, in my opinion she already sounded a bit sick to me. But she chalked it up to allergies or sinus infection. But she was already coughing quite frequently, sounded croaky. 

 

According to the CDC, the highest period of contagion, is two days before the onset of symptoms, and or possibly one day after. 

 

So If she started showing symptoms on the 6th, that leaves the window of the 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th, to be highest risk. I did not interact with her on any of these days because of how she sounded sick. But we do share the same bathroom, and obviously door handles and other surfaces in the house like the kitchen are a risk point. 

If she started showing symptoms earlier than that, then we are closer to being out the window of highest Likelihood of transmission. 

 

On the 7th, she spent the entire day outside, playing with my cousin and his kids- but they remained distant, and the kids and my cousin wore a mask, as did she. Because the kids go to school. 

 

By the end of that day (the 7th) she was really tired And went straight to bed. She was on her feet all day so I assumed it was just the kids playing that wore her out. still never got within 6 feet of her but we are in a contained house. It’s honestly difficult for me to perfectly retrace every step I’ve taken but I kept interaction with her extremely minimal, and distant, because I was weary of her sounding sick. However, my other family members were not as weary, and there were points through out that week where we were in the same room together on multiple occasions though fairly brief. 

 

On the 8th, she woke up complaining of fatigue, and I sat across from her at a bar stool in the kitchen, and she stood on the other side of the counter. We were about 2 feet apart. This interaction was really brief but, she was complaining of feeling really “beat” by the day before and cancelled all her plans for that day to recooperate. I thought, eh, just to be safe let’s take your temperature. Her temperature was normal, I think it was 97.8 or something like that, can’t remember the exact numbers. 

 

But we thought because she did not have a fever there was no cause for concern, and her coughing, cranky ness and sinus clockage, was a result of a sinus infection or just, sinus build up, maybe a cold, maybe allergies. As she does have allergies when she stays here as she sin’t used to the Florida environment nor my home which has lots of dogs. 

 

Anyway, after that point I avoided her the entire week. I was really depressed so I was sleeping all day and then by night she was away in her bedroom with the door closed. She did pop in my room once or twice through out that week asking if I wanted to do something but I said no because of covid, I didn’t want to go anywhere. But she was standing more than 6 feet away from me in my door way, while I was in my bed. 

 

In the middle of the week at some point I don’t know which day, she went to visit my uncle, His wife. 

 

Later in that week, she did sit at the dining room table, and I sat at the bar area, so she was once again 6 feet away from me, I was always trying to maintain this distance, as she was coughing all over the place, all day, and all night. Everywhere. I remember also standing behind her in the kitchen and like reaching to get a plate, and she was coughing. Away from me- but. And then she like, passed by me a few times maybe in the hallway or, coming in and out the door, or like getting in and out of the bathroom, or to her spot in the dining room she passed behind me as I was sitting at the bar stool. 

 

There were these brief moments of closeness. 

 

Through out the week she complained of the pressure in her face, but no difficulty breathing. We chalked this up to sinuses. Despite her constant coughing. And on the day where she sat at the dining table and I was at the bar stool which, if I had to guess was maybe the 10th, 11th, or 12th, she was complaining of her body being achy. Which I found concerning. 

 

Then, on I believe the 13th or the 14th, somewhere around there, maybe it was the 12th I really can’t remember. My dad made her take her temperature again, and it was again, the same standard temperature. I then washed the thermometer with alcohol, and my dad also insisted on using the thermometer to check his- as he was having a moment of hypochondria about a surgery he had recently had and was worried he was developing an infection from it as the pain was so bad during his recovery. I ran the thermometer under hot hot water and then washed it with rubbing alcohol quite thoroughly, really rubbing it to create friction with a paper towel, and also doused it with the alcohol. Before giving it to my dad. 

 

Because of his surgery and a small infection in his mouth, he was on antibiotics the entire week my grandmother was there- only missing his dose one of the days. He was also on antibiotics the entire week before her getting there. I’m not sure which day he finished the antibiotic however. 

 

Then on the 15th, she left in the morning, and I did not get close to her to hug goodbye or anything like that. It was decidely on my part a very socially distanced goodbye. 

 

On the 15th, she returning to her hometown, got a rapid test there, and received her positive results and told us on the 16th. Then around 2:30pm I believe? On the 16th I went to get a PCR test and immediately tested myself. 

 

According to the CDC, 5-7 days after exposure is the most optimal time to get tested. So, if we were exposed on the 6th-9th, we were well outside that at 10 days past initial exposure To recieve accurate test results. If we were exposed on the 10th-11th, We were within the window to recieve accurate test results at the 5th-6th day window. After that point, if we were exposed on the 12th, 13th, 14th, or the 15th in the morning before she left- we would be inside the 1-5 day window where testing accuracy becomes less reliable with every approaching day closer to the day of test. 

 

 

The after: 

As soon as we knew on the 16th, we UV’d the room my grandmother stayed in, as well as the bathroom, and then Lysol’d every door knob and many surfaces, and did a lot of laundry and hand washing. And as a family, such as my sister, my nephew and her husband- and my family, my dad mom and me, did not interact. And we have not since. We also have not interacted with my cousin and his kids, since the day he came over on the 7th. Which was a very socially distanced visit with masks. 

 

My concern though is that they did play with my nephew, most of that day, and they were very much interacting with each other. Pillow fighting and, whatever. I also that day did stand with them very briefly without their masks to watch them for a second while their father and my grandmother were busy doing something. Stood about 1-2 feet from them and we just talked for a minute. But this was very brief. 

 

Anyway, my concern is that, After the 15th when she left, we could have been exposed through surface transmission. I.E, kitchen counter, fridge handles, door handles, toilet flushing, laundry/sink/dishwasher. 

 

I told her immediately after we got her positive result on the 16th From the rapid test, to to a PCR test for accuracy’s sake. 

 

Then, today the 19th, my grandmother recieved another positive result. 

My uncle’s wife results came back negative today, from a PCR which must of been taken 3 days ago. So on the 16th. 

My cousin’s (the father of the two kids in school) his result came back negative yesterday the 18th, but he did a rapid test not a PCR. 

My sister recieved her PCR results 3 days after her test as well

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My sister recieved her PCR results 3 days after her test as well. Testing on the 16th, and her results today on the 19th, were negative. 

 

She did not test her kid my nephew. I dont know if her husband has tested. 

I do not know if my cousin’s children have tested. they likely have gone to school, and possibly seen their other parents at this point. So that’s not good. I don’t know if my cousin has gone and gotten a PCR to compare to his rapid test results. 

I do not know if my uncle has tested himself. But his wife did test negative. 

 

I have not recieved my results yet. 

 

My mom and dad tested on the 17th instead of the 16th, and they have not recieved their results yet. 

 

We do not know if our exposure has occurred within the proper window for our tests to even be accurate. 

 

We’ve been trying to wash our hands and not touch eyes/nose etc. I have been doing this always anyway, since pandemic news but. Especially since knowing we had a covid positive person in the house. So, exposure after her leaving from contact with surfaces is unlikely. 

 

And like I said, all family has not interacted with each other. 

 

My grandfather, stupidly decided to come down and visit, and arrived yesterday on the 18th. though I was insisting her should not get on a plane, he should not come here of all places where everyone might have covid. Etc. He is staying in a hotel and has not come into our home. And today on the 19th they hung out outside very far apart, perhaps 10-13 feet if not much more so. In our side yard, and they all wore masks. But my grandfather insisted on visiting. 

 

My grandfather has had skin cancer, and has a chronic kidney condition as well as a heart condition. Perhaps other complications to his liver and gallbladder from alcoholism. Slightly over weight and, I can’t remember if he complained of high cholesterol diabetes or things like that. We aren’t that close as he is from Arizona we never see him. But no smoking or lung conditions. So that’s good. 

 

At home, me and my family have tried our best to be distant from each other but, we do live in the same house (me my dad my mom) and, inevitably do pass by each other for brief moments. And if one of us has it, the inevitability of all three of us having it is very high. With the only hope being, 1-2 of us, perhaps all 3 on a lucky day, being asymptotic.

 

If my sisters negative result is accurate, and my grandmother was truly spreading covid and had it, on the 6th-10th, our test results have a high likelihood of being accurate, and a high likelihood of it also being negative. Because my sister spent a lot of time with my grandmother in this window, the 6-10th, and was closest to her more so than anyone. As she wasn’t worried about covid, she sat next to her talking for 2 hours, with her new born baby. 

 

So I’m just saying, if my sister didn’t get it then- none of us have. Because she has spent the longest time period with her, and the closest to her physically than anyone. 

 

However if our exposures were after the 10th, and more like, were on the 13th, 14th, or 15th, our test results could be inaccurate, as could my sisters. But this would mean that my grandmother’s symptoms onset and contagion spreading period would have to of started mid week, on the 11th or 12th, or possibly later on the 13th, 14th, or 15th. Which I personally dont’ believe, if I had to bet, is true. 

 

Meaning, I think her onset of symptoms was possibly on the 6th, 7th, 8th, or 9th. If our exposure was in that time period as well, at the height of her contagion, our test results are accurate- as is my sisters. Which is a good sign for us, as she was negative. And my interaction with her was far more limited than my sisters was. 

 

If our exposure was after that point, like on the 13th, 14th, or 15th, our test results may be innacurate, as is my sisters. 

 

We have not gone *anywhere* (none of us have) in order to limit the spread to other people. Out of consideration. 

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For all of us to be totally in the clear, including my immediate family. 

 

Being very careful and just making the presumption perhaps we were exposed on the final day, the 15th. Then we are not in the clear, covid free until 14 days after the 15th, which will be  the 29th or 30th basically is day 1 of being totally cleared. 

 

And then, after that point, if we had contact with a surface and contracted it, well, it’s really hard to say when we can be in the clear from that. Like, if she left it behind on a surface and then we touched that surface and it still had it on there weeks after she left, and then contracted the virus that way. 

 

The virus it’s sort of up in the air how long it can live on surfaces, it depends on a lot of factors. So, I’m just going to go ahead and say, 3 weeks? As a general estimation. I am counting our dogs as a surface. The hair. 

 

And so, realistically to be in clear from surface contact transmission, if it can only last up to 3 weeks on any given surface including dogs, the last possible day of transmission could technically be December 6th, round it up to 7th just to be sure. 

 

So two weeks after the very last possible day of contraction of the contagion, being December 7th. We will be totally in the clear December 21st officially, December 22nd round up, just to be certain. Which will be Day 1 of total clearance for us. 

 

That way, taking this into account, also leaves leeway and room for error considering one of us could have contracted it at any point after the 6th, and could have given it to us through this time period a symptomatically. Which would cause our onset of symptoms to occur much later after the cleared window of two weeks after the 15th November, clearance day being the 30th or November. 

 

Realistically, we are most likely totally in the clear by the 30th of November. 

 

But to be absolutely certain, All of us are perfectly in the clear December 22nd. 

 

(Given that we have not somehow contracted it through some other bizarre source that has nothing to do with my grandmother) Which isn’t likely, due to socially distancing from my grandfather though he rode on a plane. And, we aren’t going anywhere. 

 

We are ordering food from public places though, and groceries, as we are not going out. 

 

But as a family like, my sister, my nephew her husband- my uncle, his wife, and then my cousin and his two children- none of us are going to hang out or be in contact which each other and have not been since for my cousin and his two kids, the 7th, and for my nephew and my sister, the 15th. 

 

We’re not going to see each other at all, not even socially distanced, this is the agreement. Until we feel we are all clear. 

 

No one can go to work and no one is going anywhere. 

 

So, to lay it out. 

December 30th is 1st clearance. 

December 22nd is 2nd clearance. 

(not counting external random exposure, which could happen to anyone at this point who lives in the city). 

 

It has been 4 days now, on today the 19th, since my PCR test and they said I should recieve my results in 3 days. So, I’m hoping to god it’s negative, though, I still have to wait until the 30th to be sure, a negative result at this point for me would be relieving as the likelihood of my exposure being *after* the window where the test is no longer accurate, is unlikely. 

 

High probability my test is accurate. 

 

I don’t know if my grandmother has informed the church, the friends she went to see on the 4th and 5th. She told every family member under the sun that’s been in contact of course, and the news has spread in our family to far reaching places so. No family here doesn’t know about it. So, everyone is able to take precaution and be responsible during this time in my family. 

But I just wonder if she has told the other people she has been contact with, and, she also went places a lot lke the grocery store, and various little stores to shop at. 

 

The only place I went during the week was the park, with my family, and we all were wearing masks and remaining distant from others as much as possible. With the exception of a few strangers that came up to us trying ot sell us things, and a few kids and stupid people not wearing masks passing by us and not wearing masks being dumb. 

 

So as far as our contribution to spread, and my grandmothers contribution, is unknown. 

 

No one else has gone anywhere, except my sister went to the doctor on the 17th I believe. They take a lot of precautions there to prevent spread so, hopefully they are okay. 

 

My cousins kids however have likely been going to school- and have also likely had contact with their other parents (their mom and step dad, and possibly their moms mother, etc.) And I don’t know, my cousin if he has seen any friends or gone anywhere. 

 

And then lastly my sisters husband, if he has gotten it somehow from her or his kid my nephew, and my sisters test result being negative was innacurate, he also runs around a bit I dont know if he’s gone anywhere but, he may have gone to a pharmacy or to see a doctor to fill his prescription or possibly the post office. 

 

The last remaining issue is, my mom had exposure to my grandmother on the 6th and then she got on a plane on the 7th. Yep. And flew to Chicago, to see my uncle, and his family- his wife, and his kid. During their time there, they went shopping at places like target etc. I dont’ think they went out to eat or anything lke that. And So, if my uncle, and my uncles wife have it, I don’t know the extent of their influence contributing to the spread- but, if they go anywhere, essentially all those places and people are at risk. And my uncles daughter as well, is on a volleyball team and, goes to school. Yep. So, all of those people are now at risk too. 

Not to mention all the people on the plane with my mom, or who come into contact with that plane in any fashion in the period of contagion. And all those people at the air port, handling her bags, etc. And including the return home flight as well, a whole other plane of people, and a whole other airport which was exposed to her. Two airports (4x visition) and two planes.  

 

And then, my grandfather who’s decided to socially distanced visit us, returning home on his plane and visiting the air port twice. He also has  rental car so, the facility dealing with the car and him as a customer, and his entire hotel. Though we are being cautious, if he some how contracted it these are all risk points where he could spread it as well. And then he returns home to his wife, and is going to a thanks giving gathering with his entire family on his wife’s side. 

 

This is why it’s important to wash your hands and not touch your eyes or nose, eat with utensils. 

 

Beacuse just this one person having covid, if any of the rest of us have it or, worst case scenario if all of us had it, the potential for this to spread very far and wide very fast is very high if no one is taking mask and hand washing and social distancing/quarantining as much as possible precautions (avoiding large gatherings like church and travel, etc.). 

 

The sphere of potential influence here just from my family is enormous. So not only for our sake, but for everyone else’s sake, hope to god, all of us are truly negative and somehow managed to not contract this bloody virus. 

 

On December 22nd I can finally be at ease, knowing me and all of my extended family are officially in the clear from this initial exposure at least. 

 

Here’s to hoping. Will keep you updated on my PCR test results which should be in very soon. 

 

No one has exhibited any symptoms thus far except my grandmother of course.

last edit on 11/20/2020 1:13:24 AM
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lol you are so OCD

COVID is usually not a big deal for people under 60.

Your nieces and nephews will likely not even show symptoms, even if they do have it.

Only about 100 American kids have died, out of a population of 300+ million overall, and over a million kids infected.

 

Just stay away from other people, especially old ppl, for the next 2 weeks.

 

Hell, I just got a COVID test to get out of a fire inspection bc my douchebag property manager has been trying for years to evict me so she can raise the rent.

Fuck her. She can wait another 2 weeks to inspect my radiators, now lol

 

And yeah, my test was negative, ofc.

I already had COVID like 11 months ago.

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The largest transmission possibility in order is 

 

1. My grandmother directly 

2. Each other, especially my sisters son, my nephew. And, the two kids. 

3. Surfaces, especially doing each other’s dirty dishes, and dirty laundry, or touching the trash and toilets. Including the pets. Which we all do touch. 

 

We’re all trying our best now by being away from each other sort of but not really working because we all live in the same house, and then, washing hands and not touching eyes or nose, mouth etc. 

 

 

Since knowing about exposure, all of us have been shoring up with eating proper foods and taking vitamins, supplements, teas and fluids, and fruits and veggies, smoothies and emergen-c packets, and Zicam type products. 

 

Propylactics, probiotics, zinc, iron, vitamin c, b12, b6, you name it we’ve taken it, and a lot of it. And just, fluids and hot teas. Fluids fluids fluids. 

 

We are also cleaning and you know, trying our best to be hygienic and sterile, and we have a UV light machine which we flash from time to time in various places but mainly the bathrooms. 

 

 

We are most likely entirely screwed, and none of this will prevent what’s already been done. After my test result I am going to stock up on things you need when you are sick at home and just prepare as much as possible for it to hit all of us at the same time. Lots of ice packs and ice, and get a good set up to get comfy in and lay in bed with heating pads and blankets, all the medicines and vitamins and liquids ready to go for everyone. Towels and clean laundry and dishes, ready to go. Food, coffee smoothies hygiene products/ cleaning and house hold necessities stocked up and, Empty the trash cans. just a nice clean bed and environment to feel like absolute shit in for the next week or two... 

 

and then will try to continue cleaning and UV flashing at that point as well if one of us or all of us come down with it. 

 

My dad has the best chances because he was antibiotics the entire time, and his last dose of the antibiotic was last night. The 18th. So, he was considering leaving tomorrow morning to go stay either in a hotel or something like that. 

 

I can’t tell if we are screwed or if somehow we get insanely lucky and don’t have it either by immunity, sheer luck, or being asymptomatic. 

 

So yeah tomorrow after my test result comes I will stock up and prepare for it to hit us all, not just me. That’s a lot of ice packs. 

last edit on 11/20/2020 12:59:47 AM
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Those frikkin alcohol soaked nose diggers are deeply disturbing, btw.

There has to be a less annoying way to do that  :P

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3 of my mom's coworkers turned out to be COVID positive and she was around them for 5 days between when the tests were taken and when the results came back. Everyone at her job is getting tested again on Monday. Fingers crossed she is negative. 

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last edit on 11/20/2020 2:43:39 AM
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Xena said: 

Those frikkin alcohol soaked nose diggers are deeply disturbing, btw.

There has to be a less annoying way to do that  :P

 Having done both types of tests now, it’s much better than getting jabbed in the back of the throat. trust me. 

it’s also safer that way it can be self administered; they watch you do it from behind a window so that no one is getting exposed. 

Which I really appreciate for health care workers sake

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as an update, I can’t tell if it’s my body physiologically manifesting anxiety and stress, or if I’m just sore from my work outs this week/yesterday or what’s going on maybe dehydration but. 

I have body aches. Very subtle and mild. Could be like b12 deficiency or something like that. Could be from sleeping too much. Could be from laying down and sitting down in weird positions. 

But one year when I had a really bad flu, the first symptom I experienced was body aches. And then the next day I woke up and it hit me like a ton of bricks all the rest of the symptoms. 

So yeah... I might be sick. 

Me and my mom are going to do a target run tomorrow but we’re doing curbside pick up. Where they drop it in your trunk and you never have contact with anyone you don’t even roll your window down. 

I can’t tell if my throat has pain or if there is nothing there. (Hypochondriasis) Yesterday I sneezed a few times and today I felt a sneeze or two coming on as well. I’ve had some dizziness from anxiety I think. 

Fingers crossed it’ll be okay. :/ yikes... I think I might be screwed. These body aches are making me pretty nervous. 

I’ve had a bad flu and once I had something in college god knows what and it turned to bronchitis, it was kinda scary both times that was bad. And then uh, when I was young I had a really bad illness that they were going to do a spinal tap for because they thought it was meningitis and that was pretty bad. 

I’ve had some awful experiences with illness so I just worry. 

I really can’t tell what this soreness is about I hope to god it’s from my work out and I’m freaking out for nothing 

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The aches aren’t stopping... I’m really worried. I’ve been told I’m severely anemic, but hopefully that’s improved with time. I’ve read that anemia is one of the complications. 

So I really hope I will be okay 🥺

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