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Where are you getting this lol. Btw, I love Gattaca. It's my favorite movie. I only say dystopian due to the pop-culture references, I don't actually think what you're describing is a dystopia in the literal sense of the word.

I thought you were going to promote a system without abortion, since I raised an objection to the mass genocide it would imply. I'm fine with the idea, in principle, if it doesn't imply mass genocide. So maybe we can just take that off the table for now since you already addressed that claim and I was satisfied with your answer.

I am also relatively satisfied with your propaganda answer. That is, you think it is effective, but not infallible. Therefore, we need to enforce some things by force. Moreover, end justifies means, which is why the Gattaca situation is ok.

Like I said, I don't take issue with the idea of a happy utopia with perfect people, reached through limiting the birth of `defective` people. In fact, I think it can be a much better world which is happier, healthier, and more intelligent, if done right.

However, what would you say to the person who wants to do the same thing you want to do, but instead of making a utopia, they want to make a world which is dumber, less healthy, and less self-aware?

That is, they have a competing program that maximizes stupidity in the name of returning towards nature (or any other reason). They will create self-sustaining robots that will enforce the laws of the system.

As time passes on, the system will be even easier to control because people become even dumber than now, whereas you will always risk the chance that smart people fuck up the system or disagree with your ideas. After all, if they all have IQs in the triple digits by current standards, it would be hard to conceive that they would all agree with you, who has an IQ of merely around a 100. At the very least, a society of dumb people will be easier to control than a smart one.

Hehe. That's my shit.

I love this type of spec fic.

My daughter loved Lois Lowry's YA novels when she was in middle school, too.

Xena said: 

Hehe. That's my shit.

I love this type of spec fic.

My daughter loved Lois Lowry's YA novels when she was in middle school, too.

 

I want to read your book, you know.

AppleGenius said: 

Where are you getting this lol.

There's already a good number of people who believe in this sort of thing, but through having outdated half-baked Sciences at it's foundation most tend to err towards Ethnostates. 

We need not preserve the relic of an existing race when we could design an entirely new one that puts all of history to shame. 

I thought you were going to promote a system without abortion

I am, but Rome wasn't built in a day. 

I'm fine with the idea, in principle, if it doesn't imply mass genocide.

No genocide is required in this at all, merely steering the behaviors we find people falling into already. It's arguably no more genocidal than what we're already facing. 

It's more of an ideological shift, one that will coast much more readily if the social climate is made to be one of fear over the alternative. It pushes modern politics already, what I am proposing is simply it's natural conclusion. 

However, what would you say to the person who wants to do the same thing you want to do, but instead of making a utopia, they want to make a world which is dumber, less healthy, and less self-aware?

Assuming their own inferior genes and backwards practices don't do the job for us, the advancements in culture and tech should give us an edge over people who instead are steered to live as we currently do now. Where earlier in history you needed to use faith as bait to birth a loyal army, we've arguably passed a tipping point where superior numbers of meat bags aren't how you win wars anymore, where Science is now the new God of the Gaps. 

Allowing such an enemy to exist could serve as bait towards this fascistic ideology, much like we saw Superman do in the Elseworld series Red Son when he left the US to it's "freedom" so he could show the rest of the world how horrible it actually is. Effectively his enemy was doing so poorly that those that witnessed their suffering flocked towards Superman instead, not too dissimilar to Roger Stone's idea of paying someone off to be your opponent in ways that look bad on purpose. 

If this Utopian society succeeds at producing the best and brightest, it's hard to imagine them wanting to interact with those beneath them beyond as playthings or slaves. Once the two's capacity for intelligence leads to two different understandings of consciousness in overtly obvious ways, they likely won't even register as the same species towards one another, and the differences in health will define a clearly apparent pecking order. 

That is, they have a competing program that maximizes stupidity in the name of returning towards nature (or any other reason). They will create self-sustaining robots that will enforce the laws of the system. 

Are you proposing WALL-E? 

As time passes on, the system will be even easier to control because people become even dumber than now, whereas you will always risk the chance that smart people fuck up the system or disagree with your ideas.

If we see too much rebellion in our latest batch of youths, we can have the eugenicists work on a more stable model and otherwise 'handle' the situation with members of our soldier caste. Beyond that, if this society's going to be disagreed with by it's own citizens, then it might as well be within the bounds of intelligence, of genius, rather than a herd mentality if it's to have any odds of further optimizing beyond these projections. 

In Idiocracy and WALL-E, when their plans stopped working there was nowhere for them to go, proving both of them to be untenable models. Within a Utopia of super-humans meanwhile there's far more potential for something better to be built in it's place, plus if we can look at their genetic sequences for themes we should be able to more readily predict their behaviors, similarly to how one might see themes in Astrological cases but with even more precision. If one of the April batches of babies in the year 2242 show delinquent themes at a high enough average, they could put the entire strain on a watch list and potentially stop crimes before they even occur. 

After all, if they all have IQs in the triple digits by current standards, it would be hard to conceive that they would all agree with you, who has an IQ of merely around a 100. At the very least, a society of dumb people will be easier to control than a smart one.

Control is only as good as the person steering. If left to their own devices within a breeding pool project specifically aimed around supersaturating human stupidity, odds are that they will die. 

What I am proposing stands to reverse the neotenic damages we're already facing, using eugenics to split the wolves from the dogs. 

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Turncoat said: 

AppleGenius said: 

Where are you getting this lol.

We need not preserve the relic of an existing race when we could design an entirely new one that puts all of history to shame. 

I've been thinking about this specific thing a lot as of late. 

AliceInWonderland said: 

Turncoat said: 

AppleGenius said: 

Where are you getting this lol.

We need not preserve the relic of an existing race when we could design an entirely new one that puts all of history to shame. 

I've been thinking about this specific thing a lot as of late. 

It's essentially taking the model that was used for breeding slaves and applying it towards higher aspirations than power and stamina solely, using propaganda as the means of having people desire this path rather than feel oppressed or otherwise forced into it. 

It is humanity's destiny to cultivate all in it's grasp towards exaggerated conclusions much like how we've converted fat into supersaturated fat. We've turned nearly inedible plants into delicious food, made dangerous wildlife into cute babies, bred farm animals towards their base utilities, so why doesn't this extend towards the cultivation of the human race? 

The ideology could even show off it's success through worldwide sports programs like The Olympics, or their designer birth features could be shown off similarly to that of a fashion show, and should someone else win their semen/eggs could be purchased, at a high enough price to make it appear desired, for earning the right to produce another generation of citizens much like we see with horse breeding. Other countries taking up similar programs could lead to competitions similar to that of the American Dog Show, which could further push strong genes to future generations when these ideal specimens cross-pollinate. 

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Turncoat said: 

AliceInWonderland said: 

Turncoat said: 

AppleGenius said: 

Where are you getting this lol.

We need not preserve the relic of an existing race when we could design an entirely new one that puts all of history to shame. 

I've been thinking about this specific thing a lot as of late. 

It's essentially taking the model that was used for breeding slaves and applying it towards higher aspirations than power and stamina solely, using propaganda as the means of having people desire this path rather than feel oppressed or otherwise forced into it. 

It is humanity's destiny to cultivate all in it's grasp towards exaggerated conclusions much like how we've converted fat into supersaturated fat. We've turned nearly inedible plants into delicious food, made dangerous wildlife into cute babies, bred farm animals towards their base utilities, so why doesn't this extend towards the cultivation of the human race? 

The ideology could even show off it's success through worldwide sports programs like The Olympics, or their designer birth features could be shown off similarly to that of a fashion show, and should someone else win their semen/eggs could be purchased, at a high enough price to make it appear desired, for earning the right to produce another generation of citizens much like we see with horse breeding. Other countries taking up similar programs could lead to competitions similar to that of the American Dog Show, which could further push strong genes to future generations when these ideal specimens cross-pollinate. 

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Concerning your last paragraph I can certainly see it. While In a coma I actually had a dream that explore the concept. 

Bill Cowher, whom is the old Coat of the Pittsburgh Steelers (I guess this was what my mind chose as my family are big steelers fans), was having a heated conversating with some group of managers for both the team and some management board of the broader NFL. They conversation was the Steelers rights to some draft pick and intellectual property but with a twist. The pick was over some sort of genetic information used to breed players. It seems instead of drafting players sports teams now bid for genetic information they'd use to breed players. Later on Cowher was having a conversation with children who would be altered and play for the team in the future, he was explaining the concept of genetic retardation as if it was some old idea that was no longer a reality. 

Turncoat said: 

AliceInWonderland said: 

Turncoat said: 

AppleGenius said: 

Where are you getting this lol.

We need not preserve the relic of an existing race when we could design an entirely new one that puts all of history to shame. 

I've been thinking about this specific thing a lot as of late. 

It's essentially taking the model that was used for breeding slaves and applying it towards higher aspirations than power and stamina solely, using propaganda as the means of having people desire this path rather than feel oppressed or otherwise forced into it. 

It is humanity's destiny to cultivate all in it's grasp towards exaggerated conclusions much like how we've converted fat into supersaturated fat. We've turned nearly inedible plants into delicious food, made dangerous wildlife into cute babies, bred farm animals towards their base utilities, so why doesn't this extend towards the cultivation of the human race? 

The ideology could even show off it's success through worldwide sports programs like The Olympics, or their designer birth features could be shown off similarly to that of a fashion show, and should someone else win their semen/eggs could be purchased, at a high enough price to make it appear desired, for earning the right to produce another generation of citizens much like we see with horse breeding. Other countries taking up similar programs could lead to competitions similar to that of the American Dog Show, which could further push strong genes to future generations when these ideal specimens cross-pollinate. 

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 Yeah. Black men really are taller on average, with more physical stamina, bigger biceps and bigger penises.

I shit thee not. Those were their miniscule rewards for centuries of slavery and oppression   :/

Scrawny white slave peddlers with tiny penises saw strong slaves as a valued commodity.

Puny men breeding other men to have bigger penises, only to torture them to death bc of their fears of getting cucked by their property is one of the most effed up things about America, imo.

Xena said: 

Turncoat said: 

AliceInWonderland said: 

Turncoat said: 

AppleGenius said: 

Where are you getting this lol.

We need not preserve the relic of an existing race when we could design an entirely new one that puts all of history to shame. 

I've been thinking about this specific thing a lot as of late. 

It's essentially taking the model that was used for breeding slaves and applying it towards higher aspirations than power and stamina solely, using propaganda as the means of having people desire this path rather than feel oppressed or otherwise forced into it. 

It is humanity's destiny to cultivate all in it's grasp towards exaggerated conclusions much like how we've converted fat into supersaturated fat. We've turned nearly inedible plants into delicious food, made dangerous wildlife into cute babies, bred farm animals towards their base utilities, so why doesn't this extend towards the cultivation of the human race? 

The ideology could even show off it's success through worldwide sports programs like The Olympics, or their designer birth features could be shown off similarly to that of a fashion show, and should someone else win their semen/eggs could be purchased, at a high enough price to make it appear desired, for earning the right to produce another generation of citizens much like we see with horse breeding. Other countries taking up similar programs could lead to competitions similar to that of the American Dog Show, which could further push strong genes to future generations when these ideal specimens cross-pollinate. 

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 Yeah. Black men really are taller on average, with more physical stamina, bigger biceps and bigger penises.

I shit thee not. Those were their miniscule rewards for centuries of slavery and oppression   :/

 

Scrawny white slave peddlers with tiny penises saw strong slaves as a valued commodity.

Puny men breeding other men to have bigger penises, only to torture them to death bc of their fears of getting cucked by their property is one of the most effed up things about America, imo.

 And the irony is nothing changed except now blacks have convinced themselves of the same, a means to respect and the dreams of most black children is to become a famous entertainer or sports stars whom are bought and payed for by white and Jewish owners. Those Blacks that do go in academia go into humanities and social sciences at higher rates than an other race (those other races going into STEM) and then convincing their fellow minorities that trying is a wasted effort and if they think for themselves they are uncle Toms. 

The future looks bright and as TC pointed out, propaganda can be quite potent. 

K.

Check out the stats on successful poc in other countries where the practice of owning African slaves was abolished sooner, or barely existed at all.

Ghetto behaviour is a product of culture, not nature.

The legacy of slavery is extreme in your country. You don't see it bc you were brought up to believe that it's 'normal' for ppl to treat each other like that.

The one that rlly made me smh was the anecdote that President O used to tell about the formal dinner he attended where some guy mistook him (pretended to mistake him?) for a parking valet. I find it difficult to believe that anybody who can afford to stay in a fancy hotel with a parking valet service would srsly not recognize their President ffs. That was SO disrespectful. Obama was an excellent president, and deserved the title. Treating him like a fucking shoe shine monkey is just stupid.