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it's true a lot of the republican base is pro-life, but trump is a business dem who ran on the republican ticket, he playing both sides, like he always does.

and any pro-life bill is gonna have to pass the house and senate anyway, he's not likely to even get the option.
and if he does, he knows that might be worse economically than uncontrolled migration

Again, it's a state by state issue, and it's already been under fire during his time in office. 

You also underestimate the sleeping giant that is the Christian Right. 

What can I say, you're turning to personal attacks now? that's sad. I should have disengaged when I said I would but since we're here, I've already admitted ignorance in that I'm not american and don't spend a lot of time following it's politics. I can neither confirm nor deny some of the things you say and I'm not really interested in googling to find out at this point.

I'm not conflating womens rights with LGBTQ+ rights, but both are issues I thought you might be interested in. 

crying racist at my comment on china, mkay, it's a cultural thing. There are a lot of chinese in australia, I have a lot of personal experience with this, and also with chinese who disagree with their government, but okee dokee.

From where I'm sitting, Trump is a better vote than Biden.

 that's about all

Crimson said: 

What can I say, you're turning to personal attacks now?

I'm going on about how what you're saying lacks substance and otherwise doesn't address the issue, following that with dramatic fluff to show my feelings about it. 

If you were able to counter with more informed (and on topic) points, I'd have less room to be snarky over your bravado without it otherwise. 

that's sad. I should have disengaged when I said I would but since we're here, I've already admitted ignorance in that I'm not american and don't spend a lot of time following it's politics.

Admitting to ignorance doesn't excuse continuing to spout uninformed opinions, if anything it should inspire you to look into what's being discussed to see if your opinion shifts at all from the knowledge. 

I can neither confirm nor deny some of the things you say

Why not? 

and I'm not really interested in googling to find out at this point.

Why wouldn't you want to understand the situation better than you already believe yourself to? 

What, you think I go to 8kun because I believe in that shit? Research is something you ought to aspire to instead of lazily brush off in favor of mindless chanting of parroted sloganeering. 

I'm not conflating womens rights with LGBTQ+ rights, but both are issues I thought you might be interested in. 

You brought it up as a counter-response to my bringing up women's rights, which is something I see more out of people who don't really look into the issues. 

crying racist at my comment on china, mkay, it's a cultural thing. There are a lot of chinese in australia, I have a lot of personal experience with this, and also with chinese who disagree with their government, but okee dokee.

So you feel entitled towards your own racism then? 

There's chinese-americans here as well, would I be entitled towards racism versus them? 

From where I'm sitting, Trump is a better vote than Biden.

You're judging this purely as a matter of Cult of Personality politics, leaning towards the candidate that represents defensive fascism. 

Biden could be a street pimp or local crime lord for all I care, as long as he has good people behind him that otherwise make for positive changes towards the rights of an individual in favor of outdated regressional templating. 

tc bb I like you, I respect your zeal and informed views, and your eagerness to debate, even if we disagree on things. but understand I've got other

and limited time to do so

honestly this conversation has wasted a lot of my time I was intending for other purposes now because I'm not good at knowing when to just leave it be. but be I shall it leave :))) and in good faith I hope

I suppose you would see learning as wasting your time. 

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But he is also super eco friendly and has been open about his more "leftist" views, including those involving female empowerment.

His stances have nothing to do with what stances he's otherwise endorsing by proxy. 

If an atheist advertises for Chic Fillet, that doesn't mean that Chic Fillet is atheistic. 

 you miss my point, I was just clarifying why I believe he learns right and it's got nothing to do with the oppression of women.

How is voting for a candidate who will endorse and push forth people who'd work against woman's rights not a gradual form of oppression? 

 given we have seen how trump governs, it's unlikely we will see much in the way of damaging oppression in the next four years.

Need I point out Trump's administration launched a global effort to end criminalization of homosexuality.

And if we do see some liberties you value abolished, what's the cost? You want to stand by your ideals while ignoring the countless balls trump is juggling, and doing so well?

like I said, it's always a trade off, and in another 4 years those liberties, if curtailed, could be reinstated. This isn't just about now, although it requires quick action and trump is moving fast, think long game. 

and maybe bare in mind how china views women and LGBTQ+

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Just thought too, trump employees a lot of women

and he's never said anything particularly sexist imo

when he said that grab em by the pussy shit he was just spilling the truth, people act like golddiggers ain't chasing young billionaires. and he said it in private, in a locker room, with a guy in a similar position.

 

 This is where you won, Crimson.

Spatial Mind said: 

 This is where you won, Crimson.

 yeah I still need to learn when to disengage

Crimson said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

 This is where you won, Crimson.

 yeah I still need to learn when to disengage

It clearly wasn't from a lack of trying. 

Turncoat said: 

Crimson said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

 This is where you won, Crimson.

 yeah I still need to learn when to disengage

It clearly wasn't from a lack of trying. 

 hmm perhaps I need to learn when to just stop, seeing I had already kind of disengaged, you're good at pressing buttons tho and you know it : b I was tempted to respond to your comment about me thinking learning is a waste of time but I figured it was to provoke a response and obviously inaccurate so I stopped myself then. I'm fairly bad with interaction, or hit and miss rather, and I often take longer than other people to process the connection between what I'm thinking/feeling and what I'm doing in real time. now I'm just musing. I think talk/type a lot. anyzozzle

That's nice and all, but it's ultimately you making further excuses to not do any research.