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I think this depends on your definition of innocence.  For instance, one could mean it as the purity of being more one with nature and base patterns of survival.  The convolution of man could easily be seen as something corrupt.

Agreed, corruption tends to be about how something's become a little too human. Even d20 games tend to list animal mindsets as "neutral" from them not having much beyond baseline instincts and personality quirks when compared relatively towards the exaggerated stances humans can take. 

In some cases it goes further, such as neoteny.  The brain of dogs has been shown to be comparable to that of humans with Williams Syndrome.

So in other words, people with Williams Syndrome are animals? 

But why would we want all animals to be dogs?

Likely to feel more in control over them. 

The traditional idea of innocence is pretty vapid and boring.  I respect and care for animals more because they have the capacity to be "bad".

If "Good" and "Evil" are largely relative, and the species behaves roughly the same across the board, wouldn't each animal need their own entry for what qualifies? 

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I think this depends on your definition of innocence.  For instance, one could mean it as the purity of being more one with nature and base patterns of survival.  The convolution of man could easily be seen as something corrupt.

Agreed, corruption tends to be about how something's become a little too human. Even d20 games tend to list animal mindsets as "neutral" from them not having much beyond baseline instincts and personality quirks when compared relatively towards the exaggerated stances humans can take.

Yeah.  Humans are virus.  A really cringey virus. lol

It could also be argued that while humans and other species can both do bad things, that a more complex sentience makes us more responsible for those things than animals are.

 

In some cases it goes further, such as neoteny.  The brain of dogs has been shown to be comparable to that of humans with Williams Syndrome.

So in other words, people with Williams Syndrome are animals?

lol

 

But why would we want all animals to be dogs?

Likely to feel more in control over them.

That's so evil. : P

 

The traditional idea of innocence is pretty vapid and boring.  I respect and care for animals more because they have the capacity to be "bad".

If "Good" and "Evil" are largely relative, and the species behaves roughly the same across the board, wouldn't each animal need their own entry for what qualifies? 

True.  Any statement about the character of animals as a whole, is so big picture it essentially doesn't apply to practical reality.

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I hate taking care of animals more than I hate them. I'm just venting because I don't have a say in owning 2 dogs.

 

 Blame your family, the dogs had no choice.

 Did I say I blame my dogs for anything? I'm not abusing them and you can't make me like them.

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there you have it. all dogs are retarded

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there you have it. all dogs are retarded

It's their charm. 

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i have an innate distrust of people that dislike animals

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I hate taking care of animals more than I hate them. I'm just venting because I don't have a say in owning 2 dogs.

 Blame your family, the dogs had no choice.

 Did I say I blame my dogs for anything?

It was implied.  You said you hate them and then went on about how they're not really your dogs and you didn't choose this.

 

I'm not abusing them and you can't make me like them.

 lol You sound like a little kid refusing to eat his broccoli.

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chimpi said: 

i have an innate distrust of people that dislike animals

 Same.

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chimpi said: 

i have an innate distrust of people that dislike animals

That lot tend to not have a very inviting nature, which is something animals primarily look for by comparison to people from having a deeper connection to body language. 

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animals are supposed to evoke our nurturing side, so when someone is indifferent to them or worse, dislikes them, that tells me, as a fellow animal, that there is something wrong with that person

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