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tc basking in self importance

 96% vulnerability sounds about right

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tc basking in self importance

 96% vulnerability sounds about right

I mean what am I supposed to do, feel challenged by it or something? 

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I've finally figured you out, with some input from Tryptamine.

What, preposterous.

I'm sure Tryp would have the courage to say the same things publicly that he'd otherwise say in PMs. 

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I'm just happy because I can rest now.

 The mystery was keeping you up at night?

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@Turncoat

I thought you were low on trust... You do trust me, right?

"Trust their actions, not their words" has been the madness mantra for years now. 

How could you trust more than someone's habits when people are so prone to contradicting their self-concept, and when you can't trust yourself how are you supposed to trust other people? 

 You don't think that's fundamentally projectionary of you? How does your lack of faith in your own mind reflect on your lack of faith in others? Lot of people make that separation in one direction or another.

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@Turncoat

I thought you were low on trust... You do trust me, right?

"Trust their actions, not their words" has been the madness mantra for years now. 

How could you trust more than someone's habits when people are so prone to contradicting their self-concept, and when you can't trust yourself how are you supposed to trust other people? 

 You don't think that's fundamentally projectionary of you?

I mean it is, but would you say that it's otherwise wrong? 

How does your lack of faith in your own mind reflect on your lack of faith in others? Lot of people make that separation in one direction or another.

I'm thankful to have at least enough of it be jarring enough to have me step back and try to look at it, but other people seem to be more capable of living within self-contradiction as if they weren't made to step back at all, as if nothing was demanding that they introspect this moment in ways that can let it continue. I see it as a potential for Satori, while many others instead rewrite events as to not contradict their self-concept. 

It's a part of why I take people in the uncanny valley of sanity more seriously; they've likely been given the room to question convention more than other people without having taken that too far. High functioning instability to me often looks more sane than a functioning cog in the sociological machine, one who otherwise never had to ask questions to get by in their daily lives. 

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@Turncoat

I thought you were low on trust... You do trust me, right?

"Trust their actions, not their words" has been the madness mantra for years now. 

How could you trust more than someone's habits when people are so prone to contradicting their self-concept, and when you can't trust yourself how are you supposed to trust other people? 

 You don't think that's fundamentally projectionary of you?

I mean it is, but would you say that it's otherwise wrong?

Pretty sure that's what I'm saying. lol

How does your lack of faith in your own mind reflect on your lack of faith in others? Lot of people make that separation in one direction or another.

I'm thankful to have at least enough of it be jarring enough to have me step back and try to look at it, but other people seem to be more capable of living within self-contradiction as if they weren't made to step back at all, as if nothing was demanding that they introspect this moment in ways that can let it continue. I see it as a potential for Satori, while many others instead rewrite events as to not contradict their self-concept. 

I don't disagree about people, but what makes you think you're not among them? Do you think all those people don't genuinely believe that they think? That they introspect? That they can see themselves relatively objectively, or the bigger picture around them? That their self-concept doesn't align with reality? How do you know you're special? Wouldn't the very act of viewing this phenomenon all around you and somehow still believing you're not fully a part of the mass delusion, be a clear sign that you are?

It's a part of why I take people in the uncanny valley of sanity more seriously; they've likely been given the room to question convention more than other people without having taken that too far. High functioning instability to me often looks more sane than a functioning cog in the sociological machine, one who otherwise never had to ask questions to get by in their daily lives. 

 Questions lead to answers, but not necessarily good ones.

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@Turncoat

I thought you were low on trust... You do trust me, right?

"Trust their actions, not their words" has been the madness mantra for years now. 

How could you trust more than someone's habits when people are so prone to contradicting their self-concept, and when you can't trust yourself how are you supposed to trust other people? 

 You don't think that's fundamentally projectionary of you?

I mean it is, but would you say that it's otherwise wrong?

Pretty sure that's what I'm saying. lol

What's in it's place then for you? 

How does your lack of faith in your own mind reflect on your lack of faith in others? Lot of people make that separation in one direction or another.

I'm thankful to have at least enough of it be jarring enough to have me step back and try to look at it, but other people seem to be more capable of living within self-contradiction as if they weren't made to step back at all, as if nothing was demanding that they introspect this moment in ways that can let it continue. I see it as a potential for Satori, while many others instead rewrite events as to not contradict their self-concept. 

I don't disagree about people, but what makes you think you're not among them?

The comparison, they seem a lot more confident through not asking as many questions, as if it's preferable to not abuse themselves with too many questions. While I'm not above having bedrock when pressed too far, their stonewalls tend to be closer to "You just don't get me", but since I don't really "get me" I lean more towards "I'm overstimulated right now", which has an inherent structure of self-blame instead of externalizing it like it's another's problem plainly. 

I ask more questions, am jarred by more of my own behaviors, and have less of a solid sense of self. Without as much "Me" to fall back on there's less to stubbornly defend my self-concept with beyond some past history and a few assumptions about my character. 

Through having so many questions for myself, I find myself having many questions for others in return, using them to figure myself out through what resonates and what doesn't. Others I'd argue are more self-assured than a Paranoid Schizophrenic, but perhaps I'm wrong? 

Do you think all those people don't genuinely believe that they think? That they introspect? That they can see themselves relatively objectively, or the bigger picture around them? That their self-concept doesn't align with reality? 

A lot claim they've "done enough" and really need the idea that there's more to look at reinforced. If something in their lives isn't challenging them to try harder they'll just sit there patting themselves on the back or indulging in some self-validating barbed wire without looking at it structurally. Most people... think they're doing just fine, and if they don't they assume that their pain is bigger than other people's beyond, at best, the logic statement of "Well I'm sure others feel pain too." 

Many think they know themselves, while I can barely remember what I look like in the mirror even after having just looked at it. It's easier to go through moments of Sonder when you aren't as there to distract yourself, but in exchange there's less of a sense of identity to resist other people's force of ego, making for an analysis paralysis doormat in spite of how it could otherwise appear online. 

How do you know you're special?

I literally get paid once a month because of it. Posted Image

Wouldn't the very act of viewing this phenomenon all around you and somehow still believing you're not fully a part of the mass delusion, be a clear sign that you are? 

I'd argue that disorder has made me a bit of a min/maxer. There's areas I take much further and others that barely light up at all, much like other people, but where mine are lacks the perception of personal identity beyond what practically channels out of myself like ghost writing. 

Have you ever read your own posts like "Huh, I wrote that?", because I'm like that pretty much daily. I don't identify with myself so much as I see myself as a louder game piece than normal. 

It's a part of why I take people in the uncanny valley of sanity more seriously; they've likely been given the room to question convention more than other people without having taken that too far. High functioning instability to me often looks more sane than a functioning cog in the sociological machine, one who otherwise never had to ask questions to get by in their daily lives. 

 Questions lead to answers, but not necessarily good ones.

"Ignorance is Bliss" is just rhetoric used by sad saps. I've seen the ignorant burn with no means of escaping their plight because of said ignorance, so I find it easier to argue that said "bliss" must be from something more specific. 

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