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genuine dislike vs sadism vs constructive criticism?


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It's hard to tell the difference in a place like this. The lines seem often blurred. People also have a lot of misinformation when they try to criticize or attack. I've done it, and others have done it to me. I've definitely attacked people, and others have attacked me.

But it's hard to pick the true attacks apart from the criticism. For instance many people say I'm a narcissist or at least have tendencies. But some of those people I often assume that there is pure malicious intent behind their words when they say this. I've delegated certain members here to an assumption of ill intent and therefore anything they say I dismiss as hate and attacks.

I don't even know if I even care if some of you truly dislike me, because I think a lot of you might be sadistic and I wouldn't wanna be liked by a person like that. At the same time I also feel that I'm disliked out of some kind of misconception on both ends. And I just can't justify some of your flaws in my head. It's very hard to show empathy to people who seem to dislike me for no apparent reason. And if there is a reason I just don't get it.

At the end of the day I'd like to be cool with everyone but I'm repeatedly provoked until I just make myself look bad. Part of me wants the people I feel are irredeemably beyond redemption to still have hope to improve. It's kind of depressing to behold a lost cause. I'd like to be able to feel comfortable being cool with more people but they just consistently show that they're not worth the time or effort to be cool with. Also, stubborn people who are fucked up and won't change frustrate me too much for me to shut up.

Having enemies isn't pleasant. Especially when you're unsure how it even happened to become that way. I can be critical of people though, maybe that's it. But when I was criticizing people like challengeseeker back in 2018 that was applauded. I really don't know what happened to the praise. 

Even the people who would mindlessly hate on me if they are, it's a shame. Except Jim whom I consider a broken man who is hopeless, I can't help but feel bad for those who are missing out on an ally as good as me. Their sadism is sorely misplaced. And if people genuinely dislike me, I don't get it. I only strive to be real and unapologetically me. So, if by acting like how I actually am and people don't like it, I guess they aren't worth the time. I should only associate with people who want the real me. I could easily fake a more likeable persona but I don't want to mislead anybody on who I am. It's like I know what to say to win people over but it would be fake.

I know that overall, I'm not hated here. But a select few definitely target me or dislike me... and if it's not sadism I can't fathom why. But they've definitely made me get all mad and act out in an embarrassing way and get a bit too hateful. If it isn't just sadism, that kinda bothers me that somebody would just "dislike" me... like truly there must have been some kind of misunderstanding because I know I'm not unlikeable and there has to be some fluke at play here. I can't do anything about sadists but I wish I could do something about those with a real reason to not like me because I don't like that.

Anyway this is a Blanc style stream of consciousness type post. Just some stuff I was thinking about.

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last edit on 6/10/2020 7:49:27 AM
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For once, it's not about you, but with how much you're trying to make it about you that's going to be the sole problem. 

It's about your wife, let it be about her instead of continuing to share the weight of her constant mistakes here. You can still have an alright time if you just stop feeling responsible over her behavior on here. 

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For once, it's not about you, but with how much you're trying to make it about you that's going to be the sole problem. 

It's about your wife, let it be about her instead of continuing to share the weight of her constant mistakes here. You can still have an alright time if you just stop feeling responsible over her behavior on here. 

 This thread is mainly about how I don't know what I did to make anybody here dislike me genuinely, assuming the people aren't just sadistic. It isn't in relation to her.

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I don't feel comfortable reaching out to anybody to figure out why because if it really is sadists I'm dealing with they'd use that to be more sadistic. It's unfortunate. As much as I'd like to know what made a person dislike me I'd rather not take the risk of kindness.

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0 votes RE: genuine dislike vs sadi...

For once, it's not about you, but with how much you're trying to make it about you that's going to be the sole problem. 

It's about your wife, let it be about her instead of continuing to share the weight of her constant mistakes here. You can still have an alright time if you just stop feeling responsible over her behavior on here. 

 This thread is mainly about how I don't know what I did to make anybody here dislike me genuinely, assuming the people aren't just sadistic. It isn't in relation to her.

I know, and people have been trying to explain to you how much of it isn't about you until you invite it through her. They don't "use her to get to you", most of it's them responding to her very odd behaviors and you extrapolate that to mean it must be about you. 

In chat you were sitting there all "Woe is meee" while she was spamming something uncreative about giant cocks. You act all offended and blustery at others over her behavior and that's most of what people use to judge you, but if you'd stop butting in you'd stop taking her flak. 

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last edit on 6/10/2020 8:14:00 AM
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I don't feel comfortable reaching out to anybody to figure out why because if it really is sadists I'm dealing with they'd use that to be more sadistic. It's unfortunate. As much as I'd like to know what made a person dislike me I'd rather not take the risk of kindness.

This isn't about sadism, this is about you not taking into account people's individual motivations. 

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0 votes RE: genuine dislike vs sadi...

 

For once, it's not about you, but with how much you're trying to make it about you that's going to be the sole problem. 

It's about your wife, let it be about her instead of continuing to share the weight of her constant mistakes here. You can still have an alright time if you just stop feeling responsible over her behavior on here. 

 This thread is mainly about how I don't know what I did to make anybody here dislike me genuinely, assuming the people aren't just sadistic. It isn't in relation to her.

I know, and people have been trying to explain to you how much of it isn't about you until you invite it through her. They don't "use her to get to you", most of it's them responding to her very odd behaviors and you extrapolate that to mean it must be about you. 

In chat you were sitting there all "Woe is meee" while she was spamming something uncreative about giant cocks. You act all offended and blustery at others over her behavior and that's most of what people use to judge you, but if you'd stop butting in you'd stop taking her flak. 

 I just don't to make her feel more disliked than she already does. I feel pressured to defend her from attack or seem like a bad spouse. If I don't like something she did and voice it, it wouldn't be on the forum because people will take that and say my relationship is worse than it is. It's hard to see people say she cheats and not say anything. It's all hard to watch on both ends and not react. And even if they aren't targeting me through her I know I'm being judged by association and that makes me feel defensive. I don't know how to balance her antics, what people say, and what I'd really like to be able to do on the forum all while not looking bad to either her or everyone else.

My grandiose delusions are better than yours.
Posts: 33590
0 votes RE: genuine dislike vs sadi...

For once, it's not about you, but with how much you're trying to make it about you that's going to be the sole problem. 

It's about your wife, let it be about her instead of continuing to share the weight of her constant mistakes here. You can still have an alright time if you just stop feeling responsible over her behavior on here. 

 This thread is mainly about how I don't know what I did to make anybody here dislike me genuinely, assuming the people aren't just sadistic. It isn't in relation to her.

I know, and people have been trying to explain to you how much of it isn't about you until you invite it through her. They don't "use her to get to you", most of it's them responding to her very odd behaviors and you extrapolate that to mean it must be about you. 

In chat you were sitting there all "Woe is meee" while she was spamming something uncreative about giant cocks. You act all offended and blustery at others over her behavior and that's most of what people use to judge you, but if you'd stop butting in you'd stop taking her flak. 

I just don't to make her feel more disliked than she already does. I feel pressured to defend her from attack or seem like a bad spouse. 

Considering the responsibility you're otherwise undertaking, this shouldn't be one of them. I don't know about you, but I haven't deemed people I've dated "my responsibility" for how they act on the internet, and frankly you shouldn't have to either. 

You do enough IRL, it doesn't have to extend to the internet. You don't have to constantly defend her she can take it without your help (despite the appearances of the contrary), and she often "reinvents" her believed reality to cope after the fact anyway. If it gets bad enough and you aren't there to block for her, she might even leave. Draw the lines, set terms for where you will and won't ride in to her defense instead of shooting it in all directions.  

She's not looking for historical accuracy, just drama, and you running in like this is going to keep fucking happening if you don't let that play it's course naturally by redirecting it to being all about you. 

If I don't like something she did and voice it, it wouldn't be on the forum because people will take that and say my relationship is worse than it is.

That's sensible, and how other relationships tend to handle these things. 

Do you think she'll be able to do the same? 

It's hard to see people say she cheats and not say anything.

Even this far along

Reruns have weaker impressions, this ought to be getting easier on you. 

And even if they aren't targeting me through her I know I'm being judged by association and that makes me feel defensive.

See, THIS is what I keep seeing. You'll run in blindly like you have reason to defend yourself when you aren't even the focal point. 

Don't bother defending your honor, what's the point of it even? 

I don't know how to balance her antics, what people say, and what I'd really like to be able to do on the forum all while not looking bad to either her or everyone else.

Start with her antics and go from there. She's a variable in a sea of constants, so adjust the variable and the environment should change with it. 

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last edit on 6/10/2020 8:57:28 AM
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You know you're not going to be liked by every person right? Most of the the people here were having a normal conversation with you until a certain someone wants attention and happens to derail it. 

It maybe worth letting her get that negative attention she craves and allowing both of you to be your own person rather than you be her shield for shit she provoked

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