Sociopath Community

Tryptamine said: 

I think originally, she wanted to be a leader of sorts.

It was always about that. 

And she felt a sense of community with the people here. She willed the site into existence, advertised it on other places like PsychForums (that's how I ended up here). I think people overlook her tenacity.

Yeah, her tenacity was almost Med-tier at points (in both style and function), but her trying to be a social sneak with not even an ounce of savoir faire did her no favors. 

Her selfish mastermind delusions were her gradual downfall, and every time shit went down she was a master of learning all the wrong lessons from it. 

To describe it another way, I would try to convince her to put ads on the side of the site, so that she would get something more out of being a host. She would not do that. It was purely about ideas with her.

She also hates the aesthetic of ads, and is principally against advertising anything that isn't self-made. 

If she had a series of side companies (lol), you can bet she'd be advertising those instead. 

If you want to know why she "gave up," it's because people repeatedly ground her down. I mean over years. People here don't respect authority much, and some are even malicious. So she became a target of sorts, especially when she would have her meltdowns and start banning. Nothing good happens when you're power tripping on sociopaths.

Even when this place had their head up their asses about ASPD, they only began grinding her down when she'd power trip. She had to start this way, be this person inherently, for that to keep happening over and over for years. 

People wanted to see her as awesome, but that image became increasingly ironic overtime. Electing Dexter as her head strategist was the final nail in the coffin when it came to her credibility imo. 

I think she gets a bad rap, and she was arguably a VIP. No one was easy on her. Maybe Ed.

I'd like to have her back as a depowered user, but I'm not going to do some sort of fake lip service about all she's done for us when she the entire time was only thinking of herself, delusionally. It fits like a glove with her childhood narrative of choosing to never play with others if she wasn't in charge. 

I'd say she's pitiable for her cocktail of narcissism and social retardation. 

Tryptamine said: 

I realize I didn't give a direct answer to the question posed in the thread title.

No, I don't think she failed. Quite the opposite. She managed to somewhat control the Hell we create. 

How do you figure she did that? 

Tryptamine said: 

I think she gets a bad rap, and she was arguably a VIP. No one was easy on her. Maybe Ed.

 in the end ed turned on her, i think this hurt her the most. the one person she relied on. the one person she turned to for help. her hired goon. turned against her and destroyed her. i think this was point at which she decided to destroy SC. she perceived that nobody was left on her side.

Sven said: 

Tryptamine said: 

I think she gets a bad rap, and she was arguably a VIP. No one was easy on her. Maybe Ed.

 in the end ed turned on her, i think this hurt her the most. the one person she relied on. the one person she turned to for help. her hired goon. turned against her and destroyed her. i think this was point at which she decided to destroy SC. she perceived that nobody was left on her side.

 Edvard has always been a prolific scenario in this place.

Been here since nearly the beginning.

Eh. I can appreciate someone for hosting a site, even if it's for selfish reasons.

There was definitely some gripes to be had, for example when she ran her Senate experiment. She wasn't too happy with the results, even disqualified TPG. Or the banning sprees. It was still fun.

The childhood narrative makes sense, too. I think she wanted to care. That's kind of why what you did fucked her up. Not high-roading you here, just mentioning.

To answer your last question, how did she manage that. You're emphasizing the she. Yeah there was damage control, mostly you and Ed. I did some too, so I know. Not a lot, but I knew when to defuse a bomb. I still give her some credit for that, because there would be weeks of hate threads.

Sven said: 

Tryptamine said: 

I think she gets a bad rap, and she was arguably a VIP. No one was easy on her. Maybe Ed.

 in the end ed turned on her, i think this hurt her the most. the one person she relied on. the one person she turned to for help. her hired goon. turned against her and destroyed her. i think this was point at which she decided to destroy SC. she perceived that nobody was left on her side.

Yep, and no one was. Not even me. But it was all interesting, and I would welcome her back. Not sure she wants to be around if she can't lord power over us, though.

Tryptamine said: 

Eh. I can appreciate someone for hosting a site, even if it's for selfish reasons.

There was definitely some gripes to be had, for example when she ran her Senate experiment. She wasn't too happy with the results, even disqualified TPG. Or the banning sprees. It was still fun.

At her expense though, not because of her ability. 

She was an iconic constant, that was her charm. She was as goofy as she was predictable, and that gave a sort of sitcom charm to her being. 

The difference in my case is over seeing her more like a shitty producer for the SC TV Show instead of as it's starlet. 

The childhood narrative makes sense, too. I think she wanted to care. That's kind of why what you did fucked her up. 

It was just the contradiction between her older sense of self and who she'd become. She responded to that shit because it was in her own words, the few words she's bad at ignoring. 

To answer your last question, how did she manage that. You're emphasizing the she. Yeah there was damage control, mostly you and Ed. I did some too, so I know. Not a lot, but I knew when to defuse a bomb. I still give her some credit for that, because there would be weeks of hate threads.

It was a community effort far more than anything relating to her's my point. 

I don't give her credit based on how she responded to it. Hate threads by their own merits are weak shit to crumble over, and most of her coping was done through fleeing her own forum. 

Her biggest lesson was learning how to walk away from having lost, and that took her writing up a very longwinded curvy narrative over how she never lost in the first place. Classic narcissism. 

Tryptamine said: 

Sven said: 

Tryptamine said: 

I think she gets a bad rap, and she was arguably a VIP. No one was easy on her. Maybe Ed.

 in the end ed turned on her, i think this hurt her the most. the one person she relied on. the one person she turned to for help. her hired goon. turned against her and destroyed her. i think this was point at which she decided to destroy SC. she perceived that nobody was left on her side.

Yep, and no one was. Not even me. But it was all interesting, and I would welcome her back. Not sure she wants to be around if she can't lord power over us, though.

She'd have to accept being a loser, which is impossible. 

I don't agree on some of that. For example, paying for a site where you get little to no appreciation kind of sucks. Also, she would straight-up get harassed. Sometimes her own fault, many times not. But even if she had meltdowns, she usually pulled through in the end. I give credit for that, regardless of ulterior motives.

Her charm to me wasn't about being a constant figure. It was more watching someone try to overcome adversity, and be integrated. I was watching a girl grow up, and attempt to figure out life. She never quite figured it out here, and she needs to build her ego elsewhere.

And yeah, for you or me a hate thread is probably a compliment in a way. But for a young girl, it's probably way different. I can recognize that.

Tryptamine said: 

For example, paying for a site where you get little to no appreciation kind of sucks. Also, she would straight-up get harassed. 

She drew first blood bruh, and she drew it often.

Every attack wasn't baseless, it was built on the history of her mistakes. 

Sometimes her own fault, many times not.

More like most times her fault, and I see no reason to downplay it just because she's a pitiable creature. 

But even if she had meltdowns, she usually pulled through in the end. I give credit for that, regardless of ulterior motives.

What constitutes "pulling through" in this case? 

This is almost like admiring Med for her tenacity or something. 

It was more watching someone try to overcome adversity, and be integrated. I was watching a girl grow up, and attempt to figure out life.

We must have been watching two different stories then, as this didn't seem like some kind of feel good holiday movie to me. 

She never quite figured it out here, and she needs to build her ego elsewhere.

She tried elsewhere dude, tons of times. Why do you think she never took down SC, she failed out there too. 

No one wants someone who insists that they're in charge of everywhere they go, as if they are entitled to star treatment from random strangers. She'd go onto forums and get huffy for not being treated with "respect" when she'd refuse to follow their norms. 

And yeah, for you or me a hate thread is probably a compliment in a way. But for a young girl, it's probably way different. I can recognize that.

Don't play the "young girl" card, she's older than she was RPing her age to be and most of us were smarter than her at her age. 

She's not the "problems of a young girl", this isn't the room to get off to a mix of ageism and sexism to justify failure... this is straight social retardation, an ableism issue, and seeing her as she teetered towards the end was a sad, sad affair.