It's not meant to elicit pity.
Let's turn the mirror on you, why are you here thinking you can psychoanalyze everyone? It's mediocre so far, I get along better with people than you do. Why do you think that is?
It's not meant to elicit pity.
Let's turn the mirror on you
Hahahaha dude, I'm multiple shots into a bottle of Jose Cuervo right now, and I began those shots and continued into them hours ago. I'm not high horsing when it comes to vices, my life's one where I don't work and can keep my own hours while the government pays me to not kill myself.
I'm just saying that you use your "alchoholism" as an excuse to the point that, frankly, it's embarrassing. Unlike you, I stand by my intoxicated perspective because it was still me who said it, and if I say anything regrettable I'd be stuck taking it as if I said it sober because that's who I am.
Stop being a pity party and take responsibility for your recklessness. Even if they hate you for it you'd at least have my respect for being authentic.
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I've been drinking a lot this week, so I didn't understand what was happening. I did respond on Discord. Sorry for being aloof.
I do care about what's happening so let
It's all good man
Sc is pretty boring.
It's not meant to elicit pity.
Let's turn the mirror on you
Hahahaha dude, I'm multiple shots into a bottle of Jose Cuervo right now, and I began those shots and continued into them hours ago. I'm not high horsing when it comes to vices, my life's one where I don't work and can keep my own hours while the government pays me to not kill myself.
I'm just saying that you use your "alchoholism" as an excuse to the point that, frankly, it's embarrassing. Unlike you, I stand by my intoxicated perspective because it was still me who said it, and if I say anything regrettable I'd be stuck taking it as if I said it sober because that's who I am.
Stop being a pity party and take responsibility for your recklessness. Even if they hate you for it you'd at least have my respect for being authentic.
Dude...I keep regular communication with these people, not even just on here. I'm not saying who, but I have phone numbers as well, and I text people.
You're droning on about the alcoholism. I already admit that it doesn't excuse my behavior. You need to wake up at this point.
Tryptamine:
TC, you're skinning on thin ice right now
I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt
I think I met skimming
No one should skim on light ice
Skin on light ice*
Turncoat:
I won't lie to you
If this shit makes you uncomfortable, just tell me to stop
Tryptamine:
I'm not worried
Turncoat:
Dude like, this is how I see it as I keep watching
Tryptamine:
How
Turncoat:
It's not the drink I blame, like fuck my family *has* alcoholism
Tryptamine:
Man
I don't blame others for me being an alcoholic
Turncoat:
I just want you to take fucking responsibility, even if it's in a "Fuck the world" kind of way
People see what you're doing, they remember
Tryptamine:
Yeah, I think you don't entirely get me
Turncoat:
(I am projecting I think about this shit all the time)
Tryptamine:
I'm not even trying to be difficult
Turncoat:
Nah I know, it's a hard issue
I like... alcoholics don't deserve that vice
It's brutal
But you are still you whether sober or drunk, it's still your name and social security number and shit
Tryptamine:
I think you probably have insight as well
Sure
Turncoat:
People *see* it
They have to live with it
If you don't give a fuck, be that guy then
Tryptamine:
I'm not at a loss to me being drunk being some gradient of myself
Turncoat:
No dude they're both you. The symptoms of alcohol are a release of inhibition, if anything you're more "you* like that
Tryptamine:
Not completely
I have a frontal lobe for a reason
Turncoat:
It's you, it roots from your core nature
Inquirer:
I was just going to say that
Turncoat:
You without the drink knows how to hold it back
Inquirer:
Lol.
Turncoat:
You with the drink is free
Inquirer:
This lag
Tryptamine:
Hi inq
Well man
Inquirer:
Hiya
Turncoat:
For real dude I'm drinking too, but I'm not going to say "Jose Cuervo is the enemy"
Tryptamine:
What you have to get is that when I'm getting blasted drunk
Turncoat:
I really believe this stuff
Tryptamine:
That's not how I operate normally
And I do it to release control
Turncoat:
Operate yeah, but believe?
Tryptamine:
I get it
Turncoat:
You want to be the guy when you're drunk
Tryptamine:
Of course
Turncoat:
It's not why you drink but it's a side tangent desire
Tryptamine:
Yes
I'm not in denial about this
Inquirer:
But like Tryp said, if we remove stuff like the frontal lobe (if that was possible) then we wouldn't be the same
Turncoat:
Your denial is only over one thing
How other people are liable to respond to you
You accept yourself, but accepting their inacceptance of you?
You don't
You make excuses, you elicit pity
Tryptamine:
No, I actually let them respond how they want
I don't pressure people much
Turncoat:
You say "What did you expect" if they don't eat it
Tryptamine:
I think that's a bad read
Turncoat:
You can see yourself as shit, but others seeing you as shit is against code
Tryptamine:
Dude
Ok you have to relax
Turncoat:
You can't just say "Yes I'm shit", you tried with Sam Hyde parroting
You need a route that gives it to you
It's not there
Tryptamine:
Do you know I've pissed in bottles in front of girls here on cam
Inquirer:
Lol
Tryptamine:
I'm not that worried lol
Turncoat:
Your sober self cares about that crap
Hence you using it to prove yourself now
If you were truly in it, you'd not have it as an example
It'd just be who you are
Tryptamine:
Yeah, I'm trying to give you perspective
Turncoat:
It's meant to be like a merrit badge of how much you don't care
To impress me
Tryptamine:
No, you're misreading me
I'm not trying to impress you, there's nothing impressive about that
Turncoat:
You want to give me the impression that you don't give a fuck
Why else admit to embarrassing shit like that?
Inquirer:
Why piss in a bottle in the first place?
Tryptamine:
Do I really?
Inquirer:
Is it for convenience?
Tryptamine:
Eh, bathroom was long off
Yeah
Turncoat:
Yeah, until someone is like "Dude wtf"
Inquirer:
Ah lol.
Turncoat:
Then you're like "Oh fuck they said wtf"
"I can explain this!"
Tryptamine:
Not really
Turncoat:
Either be the true, drunk monster you are, or climb out of that pit
This uncanny valley is hurting you, and hurts me to watch
Tryptamine:
I appreciate the sentiment
Don't think you're not in a valley either
Turncoat:
Turning tables again dude?
Tryptamine:
I just generally choose to not dissect
Turncoat:
It can't be this transparent, you at least have to wait
Tryptamine:
What would I be waiting for
Do you think I mind
Turncoat:
Less obvious timing. XD
"Oh yeah well NO U!" XD
Tryptamine:
I don't care how obvious what I say is
Turncoat:
Even your last aim at it was like "Oh yeah, well, you sit on an e-psyche couch and miss points! AHA!" XD
Tryptamine:
I don't think that's close to what I said
Turncoat:
Like who gives a shit if I do that, you have a problem that has you in a cycle.
TC, you're skinning on thin ice right now
I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt
I think I met skimming
No one should skim on light ice
Skin on light ice*
Turncoat:
I won't lie to you
If this shit makes you uncomfortable, just tell me to stop
Tryptamine:
I'm not worried
Turncoat:
Dude like, this is how I see it as I keep watching
Tryptamine:
How
Turncoat:
It's not the drink I blame, like fuck my family *has* alcoholism
Tryptamine:
Man
I don't blame others for me being an alcoholic
Turncoat:
I just want you to take fucking responsibility, even if it's in a "Fuck the world" kind of way
People see what you're doing, they remember
Tryptamine:
Yeah, I think you don't entirely get me
Turncoat:
(I am projecting I think about this shit all the time)
Tryptamine:
I'm not even trying to be difficult
Turncoat:
Nah I know, it's a hard issue
I like... alcoholics don't deserve that vice
It's brutal
But you are still you whether sober or drunk, it's still your name and social security number and shit
Tryptamine:
I think you probably have insight as well
Sure
Turncoat:
People *see* it
They have to live with it
If you don't give a fuck, be that guy then
Tryptamine:
I'm not at a loss to me being drunk being some gradient of myself
Turncoat:
No dude they're both you. The symptoms of alcohol are a release of inhibition, if anything you're more "you* like that
Tryptamine:
Not completely
I have a frontal lobe for a reason
Turncoat:
It's you, it roots from your core nature
Inquirer:
I was just going to say that
Turncoat:
You without the drink knows how to hold it back
Inquirer:
Lol.
Turncoat:
You with the drink is free
Inquirer:
This lag
Tryptamine:
Hi inq
Well man
Inquirer:
Hiya
Turncoat:
For real dude I'm drinking too, but I'm not going to say "Jose Cuervo is the enemy"
Tryptamine:
What you have to get is that when I'm getting blasted drunk
Turncoat:
I really believe this stuff
Tryptamine:
That's not how I operate normally
And I do it to release control
Turncoat:
Operate yeah, but believe?
Tryptamine:
I get it
Turncoat:
You want to be the guy when you're drunk
Tryptamine:
Of course
Turncoat:
It's not why you drink but it's a side tangent desire
Tryptamine:
Yes
I'm not in denial about this
Inquirer:
But like Tryp said, if we remove stuff like the frontal lobe (if that was possible) then we wouldn't be the same
Turncoat:
Your denial is only over one thing
How other people are liable to respond to you
You accept yourself, but accepting their inacceptance of you?
You don't
You make excuses, you elicit pity
Tryptamine:
No, I actually let them respond how they want
I don't pressure people much
Turncoat:
You say "What did you expect" if they don't eat it
Tryptamine:
I think that's a bad read
Turncoat:
You can see yourself as shit, but others seeing you as shit is against code
Tryptamine:
Dude
Ok you have to relax
Turncoat:
You can't just say "Yes I'm shit", you tried with Sam Hyde parroting
You need a route that gives it to you
It's not there
Tryptamine:
Do you know I've pissed in bottles in front of girls here on cam
Inquirer:
Lol
Tryptamine:
I'm not that worried lol
Turncoat:
Your sober self cares about that crap
Hence you using it to prove yourself now
If you were truly in it, you'd not have it as an example
It'd just be who you are
Tryptamine:
Yeah, I'm trying to give you perspective
Turncoat:
It's meant to be like a merrit badge of how much you don't care
To impress me
Tryptamine:
No, you're misreading me
I'm not trying to impress you, there's nothing impressive about that
Turncoat:
You want to give me the impression that you don't give a fuck
Why else admit to embarrassing shit like that?
Inquirer:
Why piss in a bottle in the first place?
Tryptamine:
Do I really?
Inquirer:
Is it for convenience?
Tryptamine:
Eh, bathroom was long off
Yeah
Turncoat:
Yeah, until someone is like "Dude wtf"
Inquirer:
Ah lol.
Turncoat:
Then you're like "Oh fuck they said wtf"
"I can explain this!"
Tryptamine:
Not really
Turncoat:
Either be the true, drunk monster you are, or climb out of that pit
This uncanny valley is hurting you, and hurts me to watch
Tryptamine:
I appreciate the sentiment
Don't think you're not in a valley either
Turncoat:
Turning tables again dude?
Tryptamine:
I just generally choose to not dissect
Turncoat:
It can't be this transparent, you at least have to wait
Tryptamine:
What would I be waiting for
Do you think I mind
Turncoat:
Less obvious timing. XD
"Oh yeah well NO U!" XD
Tryptamine:
I don't care how obvious what I say is
Turncoat:
Even your last aim at it was like "Oh yeah, well, you sit on an e-psyche couch and miss points! AHA!" XD
Tryptamine:
I don't think that's close to what I said
Turncoat:
Like who gives a shit if I do that, you have a problem that has you in a cycle.
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Tryptamine:
One moment
. . .
Tryptamine:
Alright
You're focusing on my problems and not on your own, do you realize that
Inquirer:
I think TC's point is you can have whatever problems you want as long as you own up to them.
And he's reading you as blaming the alcoholism.
Tryptamine:
What am I not owning up to?
Inquirer:
Not entirely sure.
Turncoat:
You aim to turn the problems on me to deflect from the focus on yours.
Tryptamine:
Dude
Turncoat:
You didn't even give a like... longwinded journey there, you went there *quick*.
Inquirer:
I guess when you say "I do bad things when I'm drunk, sorry for that" he reads it as a an attempt to hide behind it.
Tryptamine:
You're literally here focusing on my shit
Turncoat:
Obviously everyone has problems, but it's a distraction from the topic.
Tryptamine:
This is on you as well
Turncoat:
The topic: How people see you.
Tryptamine:
I could turn all of this on you
Yeah, how about how people see you?
Wanna go into that?
Turncoat:
It's nice to know there's at least one credible witness to the things you're saying right now.
Tryptamine:
That's fine
Do you think I'm being crazy?
Turncoat:
I think you're being justification-based.
Which is weak.
Tryptamine:
I think you're opposing your own treatment
Turncoat:
I don't care what you do, I just care that you live up to what you do.
You can be the ultimate psychonaut as long as you aren't a pussy about it.
PalePeach:
Hey guys good news
Tryptamine:
You can try to be the psychiatrist, but you avoid things when it gets turned on you
PalePeach:
Alice agreed to get treatment
Tryptamine:
Good
Turncoat:
You want it to turn on me because you can't take it.
You keep focusing on it because you need an out.
You see it though, don't you?
Tryptamine:
I turn it on you, because you think you have control
user22212:
Kek
Turncoat:
Is talking about your alcoholism really about control?
Tryptamine:
You tell me
Turncoat:
It's saying to own up to your substance, or quit it, instead of this mid-ground shit.
Tryptamine:
Now you see that you didnt have control
Turncoat:
We began this from a topic that elicited this conversation naturally, now you're combative and trying to change the subject.
Tryptamine:
You're bringing up addiction
Nah, that was you
It's alright
Turncoat:
It's whatever.
Tryptamine:
If that's what you want it to be
Inquirer:
Have an example of his mid-ground shit?
Might help to narrow it down.
Turncoat:
The pity party I've been talking about, this idea that he's both supposed to be respected and pitied for his addiction.
He tries to play both camps instead of being a solid sense of self.
user22212:
Pfft addicts suck ass
Weak people
Tryptamine:
I don't ask anyone for pity mann
user22212:
The niggers of willpower tbh
Tryptamine:
I say I'm an idiot for being this way
What more do you want
Turncoat:
He tries to play the role of "self-destruction artist" ala Sam Hyde rhetoric, yet also the "woe is me you should have empathy" route of how he feels when he offends someone (usually female).
Tryptamine:
You really don't get me, man
But it's fine
Turncoat:
"But it's fine"
I get it.
Tryptamine:
Yeah, nothing I can do about itn
Turncoat:
Mmhmm
Tryptamine:
You think you're on top of shit, but you're not
Turncoat:
You felt the need to clarify that.
Tryptamine:
I'm trying to communicate to you, dumbass
Should I not used loaded words or what
Turncoat:
I feel like what I've had to say's been communicated at this point.
Tryptamine:
And how did you think that went
Turncoat:
About as well as it could have.
Tryptamine:
I'm really just amused
Turncoat:
Yet again, felt the need to clarify it.
Tryptamine:
You've always done this type of thing where you try to get into the back of people's minds
Nah man, I'm helping you here
Turncoat:
/turns tables again
Tryptamine:
You're decent at it, just not 100%
Turncoat:
Flattery's gross dude just stop.
Tryptamine:
Me explaining something isn't turning tables, relax.
Anyways you tend to be a little off the mark
And you are right now, again
Turncoat:
I can already see the room for you to be affected is closed now.
Tryptamine:
Is it?
Turncoat:
You're trying to "handle" the situation, so you aren't really here right now.
The tone's changed entirely.
Tryptamine:
I'm pretty sure I'm right here
Turncoat:
There will be other times to talk about this. :)
Tryptamine:
If you say so
For context.
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I was lurking, waiting all this time for this chance..... to finally shoot this back at Tryptamine: Now you understand how clueless you really were when you tried to psychoanalyze a strawman version of me, bitch. Suck it.
Does this make me petty? I think it does.... I don't care, I'm such a vain person. An artist, and an architect.
No worries dude, I'm sure you have it all under control.
You love it as much as I do, don't you? Don't lie.. We're the same.
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No worries dude, I'm sure you have it all under control.
You love it as much as I do, don't you? Don't lie.. We're the same.
I thought I was the one saying we're similar, and you were the one Skywalkering out.
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You love it as much as I do, don't you? Don't lie.. We're the same.
I thought I was the one saying we're similar, and you were the one Skywalkering out.
I was just spiteful... I'm so changeable. But don't let me hog the conversation. Back to my popcorn.
Keep up the good work buddies.
Also what is this shit about Alice trying to kill herself? Why would she do that? Why do I always want to nail girls who are so fucked up in the head and ignore me when I care so much about them...? The other day I was watching this one bird who was trying to mate with every baby chick that walked past it, and all of them rejected it. It made me so sad.. but the bird didn't give a shit. He just went to try to nail the next chick... and got rejected again. Its dumb lifeless eyes were staring at me, and I was staring back.. I can relate, although I don't know if the bird did it cause he was desperate or because it was too stupid to understand the social implications of its actions.