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For real though, she gave him the money without any expectation of goods or services rendered from it. That has it constituted as a gift, doesn't it? 

How much of a case does she even have? It's not like you can sue a wishing well for not granting you wishes. 

 

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she made it clear she had expectations that he would leave his wife and come live with her, and at the very least come spend an evening with her

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Sven said: 
FOTS just give the money back and the FBI will leave you alone ;)
He could be sued, but only for the extent of the financial damages assuming she even has an actual case here. 
 
Fraud

Fraud is often both a criminal charge and a tort. Fraud claims may be premised on the fact that a person materially represented himself or herself, another person reasonably relied on this misrepresentation, the person knew that the representation was false and intended the other person to rely on it and the other person was injured in some manner.

When perpetrators of catfishing schemes intentionally act like another person and initiate contact and a romantic relationship with another person, the first few elements may not be difficult to prove. However, the last element – injury of some sort – may be more difficult to prove.
What constitutes an "injury" in this case, more than the literal expectation of the word? 
 
Some scenarios in which this crime or tort may be successful is when the perpetrator uses a position of trust in order to acquire money, credit or other things of value from the victim. If the victim pursues a criminal case against the perpetrator, the court may order the perpetrator to pay the victim restitution.


If the victim pursues a civil case, he or she may be able to receive compensation for his or her financial losses and potentially punitive damages if the conduct was particularly egregious.
So... he'd just be made to return what he's already been given? 

What's to stop him from just going back and getting that money from Med again the exact same way? Repeat lawsuits of the same nature would likely weigh against the credibility of her case. 

Also, for real, does anyone here expect Med to actually contact a lawyer, especially when her own family doesn't trust her judgement? She'd need to throw even more money away towards legal fees. If her case continues to advance she may lose family privileges that she already takes (more than) for granted. 

Also, come a court situation, she'd need to be able to explain the situation. Somehow... I don't have much hope for her ability to do that credibly. It's all downhill for Med if she pushes this envelope, at the very least for matters involving her family's wealth handouts and inheritance. 

It'd cost her more than the $2000 she threw away to principally settle this matter. 

Misappropriation of Likeness

The individual whose pictures or social media content are used may have a claim against the perpetrator for misappropriation of likeness. This tort requires showing that the perpetrator used a protected attribute of another individual in an exploitative manner without the consent of the person to whom the attribute belonged.
Now this clause gets interesting: Has Chapo given consent for others to imitate his likeness? 

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Sven said: 
FOTS just give the money back and the FBI will leave you alone ;)
He could be sued, but only for the extent of the financial damages assuming she even has an actual case here. 
 
Fraud

Fraud is often both a criminal charge and a tort. Fraud claims may be premised on the fact that a person materially represented himself or herself, another person reasonably relied on this misrepresentation, the person knew that the representation was false and intended the other person to rely on it and the other person was injured in some manner.

When perpetrators of catfishing schemes intentionally act like another person and initiate contact and a romantic relationship with another person, the first few elements may not be difficult to prove. However, the last element – injury of some sort – may be more difficult to prove.
What constitutes an "injury" in this case, more than the literal expectation of the word? 
 
Some scenarios in which this crime or tort may be successful is when the perpetrator uses a position of trust in order to acquire money, credit or other things of value from the victim. If the victim pursues a criminal case against the perpetrator, the court may order the perpetrator to pay the victim restitution.


If the victim pursues a civil case, he or she may be able to receive compensation for his or her financial losses and potentially punitive damages if the conduct was particularly egregious.
So... he'd just be made to return what he's already been given? 

What's to stop him from just going back and getting that money from Med again the exact same way? Repeat lawsuits of the same nature would likely weigh against the credibility of her case. 

Also, for real, does anyone here expect Med to actually contact a lawyer, especially when her own family doesn't trust her judgement? She'd need to throw even more money away towards legal fees. If her case continues to advance she may lose family privileges that she already takes (more than) for granted. 

Also, come a court situation, she'd need to be able to explain the situation. Somehow... I don't have much hope for her ability to do that credibly. It's all downhill for Med if she pushes this envelope, at the very least for matters involving her family's wealth handouts and inheritance. 

It'd cost her more than the $2000 she threw away to principally settle this matter. 

Misappropriation of Likeness

The individual whose pictures or social media content are used may have a claim against the perpetrator for misappropriation of likeness. This tort requires showing that the perpetrator used a protected attribute of another individual in an exploitative manner without the consent of the person to whom the attribute belonged.
Now this clause gets interesting: Has Chapo given consent for others to imitate his likeness? 

 none of this is relevant because it isnt gonna happen

good effort though on the research

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It's not going to reach a lawyer without meds family finding out and they'll sooner stop it and take as a loss and reason to restrict the amount she gets as well as have new requirements for her to meet in order to get more money. 

If I were Chapo I'd go ahead with that restraining order in order to make the case that the scam was infact her own fault as he's not tried to make (obvious) contact with her. If she still tries to sue him he could likely countersue for libel and emotional/mental damages due to her stalking.

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love the responses in this thread. it seems that displays of high self esteem and financial self sufficiency are the biggest triggers on this forum xd

From now on me and FOTS promise to not act superior or show off self sufficiency skills, intelligence or ability to survive without parents (or a paternal figure romantıc partner) anymore, we care about the members feelings and we dont want a roastie to ask Good to ban us again like missc did. You can have all the internet spotlight,  playground king status and e-clout, we are not here to steal it.

 

FOTS said: 
FOTS said: 
FOTS said: 

You're just salty that you didn't do this to med first.

You wish you thought of it first

Maybe, just maybe, I've done this sort of job several times before? Or have I? Idk

 You used a venmo account tied to your identity, posted proof of your actions along with a pictures of yourself (you look like a twink btw), and THEN asked peach if they could track your transactions through your bank account. If med pursed this legally you'd be totally fucked, and if the bank launches an internal investigation (which I doubt) you are definitely fucked. So, don't go sucking your own inexperienced dick too hard. 

On another note, you're a god dame legend Jim. 

 Not even accurate. The venmo was not under my name and the money was shuffled

This isnt my first time doing this, I'm not some amateur 

 bro it so obviously is your first time..lmao i hope she doosn't takes legal action

 Kek sure

It's the first time I've gotten a pay out but I've been set up to properly do this for a year, finally found a way to consistently get pay outs

 set up to properly do what? 'manipulate' a deranged unstable mess who used to be in a psych ward and thinks her foot is plotting against her with her mom?

 he worked on her paranoia and delusions for about two months, following the NPD playbook. She is mentally ill but not stupid. She handed peach her ass on a virology debate a few days ago. FOTS used his intelligence and social skills to get her to a point where I can strike, and most importantly, he did not have to suck his boyfriends dick and beg him or his parents for money to get it,  because he can make the money himself by his own smarts.

 

Trouble said: 
FOTS said: 
FOTS said: 

You're just salty that you didn't do this to med first.

You wish you thought of it first

Maybe, just maybe, I've done this sort of job several times before? Or have I? Idk

 You used a venmo account tied to your identity, posted proof of your actions along with a pictures of yourself (you look like a twink btw), and THEN asked peach if they could track your transactions through your bank account. If med pursed this legally you'd be totally fucked, and if the bank launches an internal investigation (which I doubt) you are definitely fucked. So, don't go sucking your own inexperienced dick too hard. 

On another note, you're a god dame legend Jim. 

 Not even accurate. The venmo was not under my name and the money was shuffled

This isnt my first time doing this, I'm not some amateur 

 You didn't pull off the Gardner Museum heist. You scammed a spastic out of 2,000 USD. 

 yeah FOTS, you did not pull anything big or special, so dont be so proud of yourself and happy ok. with so many miserable and insecure people around, who do you think you are? tone your ego down asshole. just because you dont have to work a minimum wage job or put out to afford a bag doesnt mean you are superior!

 

Sven said: 
FOTS just give the money back and the FBI will leave you alone ;)

 give it to sven or peach, they clearly need it xddd

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love the responses in this thread. it seems that displays of high self esteem and financial self sufficiency are the biggest triggers on this forum xd

FOTS cockiness and boasting really brought out the inferiority complexes of the members. Gj man.

FOTS said: 
FOTS said: 
FOTS said: 

You're just salty that you didn't do this to med first.

You wish you thought of it first

Maybe, just maybe, I've done this sort of job several times before? Or have I? Idk

 You used a venmo account tied to your identity, posted proof of your actions along with a pictures of yourself (you look like a twink btw), and THEN asked peach if they could track your transactions through your bank account. If med pursed this legally you'd be totally fucked, and if the bank launches an internal investigation (which I doubt) you are definitely fucked. So, don't go sucking your own inexperienced dick too hard. 

On another note, you're a god dame legend Jim. 

 Not even accurate. The venmo was not under my name and the money was shuffled

This isnt my first time doing this, I'm not some amateur 

 bro it so obviously is your first time..lmao i hope she doosn't takes legal action

 Kek sure

It's the first time I've gotten a pay out but I've been set up to properly do this for a year, finally found a way to consistently get pay outs

 set up to properly do what? 'manipulate' a deranged unstable mess who used to be in a psych ward and thinks her foot is plotting against her with her mom?

 he worked on her paranoia and delusions for about two months, following the NPD playbook. She is mentally ill but not stupid. She handed peach her ass on a virology debate a few days ago.

So he just fed a delusional narc for two months and the payout was 2K? That's a pretty pathetic reward for the work....

Med didn't even know what a viral envelop was the other day,  at this point I know more than med does about virology and I just say things Peach has explained to me. 

 

FOTS used his intelligence and social skills to get her to a point where I can strike, and most importantly, he did not have to suck his boyfriends dick and beg him or his parents for money to get it,  because he can make the money himself by his own smarts.

You have your eyes set on a new twink I see, excellent choice given he's sloppy and seems to have an infatuation with licking phallic objects. 

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lol I love the ax just lying there in the background

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love the responses in this thread. it seems that displays of high self esteem and financial self sufficiency are the biggest triggers on this forum xd

FOTS cockiness and boasting really brought out the inferiority complexes of the members. Gj man.

FOTS said: 
FOTS said: 
FOTS said: 

You're just salty that you didn't do this to med first.

You wish you thought of it first

Maybe, just maybe, I've done this sort of job several times before? Or have I? Idk

 You used a venmo account tied to your identity, posted proof of your actions along with a pictures of yourself (you look like a twink btw), and THEN asked peach if they could track your transactions through your bank account. If med pursed this legally you'd be totally fucked, and if the bank launches an internal investigation (which I doubt) you are definitely fucked. So, don't go sucking your own inexperienced dick too hard. 

On another note, you're a god dame legend Jim. 

 Not even accurate. The venmo was not under my name and the money was shuffled

This isnt my first time doing this, I'm not some amateur 

 bro it so obviously is your first time..lmao i hope she doosn't takes legal action

 Kek sure

It's the first time I've gotten a pay out but I've been set up to properly do this for a year, finally found a way to consistently get pay outs

 set up to properly do what? 'manipulate' a deranged unstable mess who used to be in a psych ward and thinks her foot is plotting against her with her mom?

 he worked on her paranoia and delusions for about two months, following the NPD playbook. She is mentally ill but not stupid. She handed peach her ass on a virology debate a few days ago.

So he just fed a delusional narc for two months and the payout was 2K? That's a pretty pathetic reward for the work....

Med didn't even know what a viral envelop was the other day,  at this point I know more than med does about virology and I just say things Peach has explained to me. 

we only came up with the scam a week ago, hes been playing with her for fun for a month (I did the same, got nudes from her then realized ı could get money LOL)

FOTS used his intelligence and social skills to get her to a point where I can strike, and most importantly, he did not have to suck his boyfriends dick and beg him or his parents for money to get it,  because he can make the money himself by his own smarts.

You have your eyes set on a new twink I see, excellent choice given he's sloppy and seems to have an infatuation with licking phallic objects. 

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nice of you to defend peaches honor cuz im making fun of dependent faggots who cant win at the capitalism game on their own xdd

you will always be #1 in my eyes alice chan, cute and smart <3

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  She handed peach her ass on a virology debate a few days ago.

 Fucking when? Do you mean the other day when she was trying to remember the name of polysomy 23 (which is an extra 23rd chromosome) Then she realized the annomally she was actually thinking of was XO  (which is only 1 X chromosome.) When she initially was asking about polysomy 23 I told her it was kleinfelters, and started describing kleinfelters, but then she changed which disease she was talking about so she told me I was wrong, and that she had been talking about Turner Syndrome. At no point was I wrong, I answered her first question before she changed the question. It was a discussion and not a debate, Med just needs to be competitive about biology. And that's genetics, not virology dipshit.


Sc is pretty boring.
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