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You're a dumb ass bitch ngl

Well if you follow the Buddha's teachings, then nothing about us is "real" because we are impermanent. Thus we are not "true". Not only what we present to the world, but also how we really feel inside -- None of this is part of our true selves, because there is no self(Anatman). So according to Buddhism, we should not attach to worldly things, including the concept of what makes us who we are, as this only brings forth suffering, which Buddhism seeks to remove.

Slay said: 

Well if you follow the Buddha's teachings, then nothing about us is "real" because we are impermanent. Thus we are not "true". Not only what we present to the world, but also how we really feel inside -- None of this is part of our true selves, because there is no self(Anatman). So according to Buddhism, we should not attach to worldly things, including the concept of what makes us who we are, as this only brings forth suffering, which Buddhism seeks to remove.

 

 Right, which makes its deworlding transcendental opposed to hyperreal. 

My point here is that most of us are aware of how fake all of this is and thus how fucked everything has become. What you’ve done here is realized that x y and z are not ‘real’, and that thought implies a question if your crazy enough to ask it. What is real?

 And if you focus on that long enough you just become cynical or sardonic 

FOTS said: 

My point here is that most of us are aware of how fake all of this is and thus how fucked everything has become. What you’ve done here is realized that x y and z are not ‘real’, and that thought implies a question if your crazy enough to ask it. What is real?

 And if you focus on that long enough you just become cynical or sardonic 

Possibly but not definitely,  being a cultural theorist who contemplate such things doesn't mean you inherently do not value or trust society along with the human being - being critical does not equate to being cynical. 

Furthermore, asking "what is real?" is not an admission that nothing is real. Asking said question could instead lead you in the opposite conclusion in which reality can take on far more abstract forms than expected. For instance an immaterial thing isn't necessarily a none-real thing.  

AliceInWonderland said: 

I'm currently having a conversation with one of Peaches friends who is seemingly having an existential crises, more specifically she is experiencing the phenomena of 'Nausea' as described by Sartre in his book of the same name. 

 

 It's something that peaked my interest awhile back. I noticed I got that sort of feeling when thinking about what I'd call vast unknowns. When in some existential thought about god, the scale of ocean or space, or just how much you miss in life that feeling crops up. I chalk it up to a convoluted variant of the base human fear of the unknown.

I've even went as far as to put myself into places where my perception was just enough to understand it was limited to try and feel out if it was similar. Things like when Im at the beach swimming out into murky lake water about a good 12-20 feet and about 3 feet down with goggles. Going down trails at night and walking around a mass public area with earplugs. While I'd say it's a lot sharper, it's the same feeling.

This "nausea" is a very subtle but sculpting force of the human condition. We don't like not having answers and will subconsciously lean on something to take its place. I really credit this to our adherence to religion and a strong, thematic but simple internal narrative. People don't feel right when life doesn't click and its a big reason why Black and White viewpoints are very popular traps.

I expected what would follow, Alice, would regard Sartre and instead you have this stream-of-consciousness gobbledygook.

Incidentally, what kind of marks did you get.

Kestrel said: 

AliceInWonderland said: 

I'm currently having a conversation with one of Peaches friends who is seemingly having an existential crises, more specifically she is experiencing the phenomena of 'Nausea' as described by Sartre in his book of the same name. 

 

 It's something that peaked my interest awhile back. I noticed I got that sort of feeling when thinking about what I'd call vast unknowns. When in some existential thought about god, the scale of ocean or space, or just how much you miss in life that feeling crops up. I chalk it up to a convoluted variant of the base human fear of the unknown.

I've even went as far as to put myself into places where my perception was just enough to understand it was limited to try and feel out if it was similar. Things like when Im at the beach swimming out into murky lake water about a good 12-20 feet and about 3 feet down with goggles. Going down trails at night and walking around a mass public area with earplugs. While I'd say it's a lot sharper, it's the same feeling.

This "nausea" is a very subtle but sculpting force of the human condition. We don't like not having answers and will subconsciously lean on something to take its place. I really credit this to our adherence to religion and a strong, thematic but simple internal narrative. People don't feel right when life doesn't click and its a big reason why Black and White viewpoints are very popular traps.

 I agree completely.

It’s interesting that the same force that plunges you into an existential ‘crises’ is the same force that, as you say, sculpts the human condition. That sculpting is seemingly the result of brushing up against the boundary of what is known and what is unknown. When a society or culture becomes overly solidified and institutionalized it is often the case that the boundaries of that society or culture will invert and begin to consume the center; this is both a destructive and rejuvenating process.

It's all pretense, and it's always been that way. Most of what's changed in this case is just the medium for it. 

The reason for the pretense is closer to what's real, and that can be found within hints of what they show about themselves that they think others expect out of them. They ask themselves how others see them, so naturally their response to that question is projectionary of what's going on with them behind the gesture. 

When looking towards others meanwhile, they tend to only see facets of themselves within that person, so naturally promoting a blindness that's already there naturally makes it more streamline for template-based comparison. 

Life's so much easier to people when it can be rendered down into archetypes, and the complexity of what they're dealing with can usually be found within how many camps they've split it into.