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He's my soulmate and potential Delilah lmao, I tell him pretty much everything. my heart is his

Delilah from the bible, not the stupid song

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If Sam breaks me, Pandora's fucking box pt. 2 is going to be opened lol I can tell you that much and SC will probably be my first victim because why not

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just kidding

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>.>

ya totes jk

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besides its common practice to keep your rites and rituals sacred and secret.

Is it? The internet has tons of people asking for advice on rituals and how to deal with who they're aiming to invoke and stuff. 

I just wanted to tell everyone that I do not plan on cursing/crossing/hexing anyone anymore, because I did threaten that previously and telling someone you're going to curse/cross/hex them or even that you might curse/cross/hex them if they dont behave how you would like them to is actually kind of a curse/cross/hex in itself

They didn't work, huh? 

 You aren't asking for advice tho, if you were I would give you good advice. You were asking what I'm personally spellworking on rn and thats an entirely different question, and quite invasive to assume I would tell you tbh

 

and I wouldn't personally know, but the tiny bit of cursing I have done where I imagined people getting violently hurt, visibly negatively influenced them almost every time. Like way more than could ever be brushed off as coincidence. either that or im extremely lucky and/or perfectly psychically timed

 

I would not want to be on the receiving end of me legitimately going all out invoking hell on someone

Anyway TC, there are times when drawing from the strength of a shared ritual can be extremely powerful, but what is also extremely powerful is to personalize your rituals and create your own spells, with every single thing from your clothes, to what you bathe in, to colors and tools and incense, words, everything having deep symbollic meaning to you. combined with intense meditative focus and visualization

I personally follow some rituals by the book, some I make up completely on my own and some I combine, based on what I feel will manifest the results I want in the most effective way possible

 

If I was to give you advice, I would not necessarily tell you what I personally do as its personal to me. I would give you a by the book or recommended ritual that you could either use as is or customize to make it your own variation of it

 

Advanced magicians/sorcerers do not need to do anything by the book, they write the book. they do what manifests the results they want, and they do it creatively and intuitively. of course study what your ancestors and teachers have done before you, and there are times it is beneficial to follow exact instructions

 

It's all up to your intuition on what will work best for you personally, at the end of the day. thats the fun of magik

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besides its common practice to keep your rites and rituals sacred and secret.

Is it? The internet has tons of people asking for advice on rituals and how to deal with who they're aiming to invoke and stuff. 

I just wanted to tell everyone that I do not plan on cursing/crossing/hexing anyone anymore, because I did threaten that previously and telling someone you're going to curse/cross/hex them or even that you might curse/cross/hex them if they dont behave how you would like them to is actually kind of a curse/cross/hex in itself

They didn't work, huh? 

You aren't asking for advice tho, if you were I would give you good advice. You were asking what I'm personally spellworking on rn and thats an entirely different question, and quite invasive to assume I would tell you tbh

The only difference here is that instead of you asking around, it's me asking. 

If I'm to base this off of other Wiccans, this is just a 'you' thing. Wiccans and Pagans otherwise love invoking things in the names of others as a source of inspiration and as a well of power, and spreading the faith increases their patron's power. 

and I wouldn't personally know, but the tiny bit of cursing I have done where I imagined people getting violently hurt, visibly negatively influenced them almost every time.

You should have aimed for lesser inflictions, like malaise. 

Like way more than could ever be brushed off as coincidence. either that or im extremely lucky and/or perfectly psychically timed

What damages have you done with your magic so far? 

I would not want to be on the receiving end of me legitimately going all out invoking hell on someone

It's a good thing you'll never legitimately go all out then, huh? Posted Image

I've told only Sam lol. Email him and ask him if you'd like but I doubt he would tell you, besides I was very vague with him and he doesn't know details of the rituals he just knows what my main current intention is

I could see him answering otherwise completely random questions for strangers. 

Ę̵̚x̸͎̾i̴͚̽s̵̻͐t̷͐ͅe̷̯͠n̴̤̚t̵̻̅i̵͉̿a̴̮͊l̵͍̂ ̴̹̕D̵̤̀e̸͓͂t̵̢͂e̴͕̓c̸̗̄t̴̗̿ï̶̪v̷̲̍é̵͔
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besides its common practice to keep your rites and rituals sacred and secret.

Is it? The internet has tons of people asking for advice on rituals and how to deal with who they're aiming to invoke and stuff. 

I just wanted to tell everyone that I do not plan on cursing/crossing/hexing anyone anymore, because I did threaten that previously and telling someone you're going to curse/cross/hex them or even that you might curse/cross/hex them if they dont behave how you would like them to is actually kind of a curse/cross/hex in itself

They didn't work, huh? 

 You aren't asking for advice tho, if you were I would give you good advice. You were asking what I'm personally spellworking on rn and thats an entirely different question, and quite invasive to assume I would tell you tbh

and I wouldn't personally know, but the tiny bit of cursing I have done where I imagined people getting violently hurt, visibly negatively influenced them almost every time. Like way more than could ever be brushed off as coincidence. either that or im extremely lucky and/or perfectly psychically timed

I would not want to be on the receiving end of me legitimately going all out invoking hell on someone

Anyway TC, there are times when drawing from the strength of a shared ritual can be extremely powerful, but what is also extremely powerful is to personalize your rituals and create your own spells, with every single thing from your clothes, to what you bathe in, to colors and tools and incense, words, everything having deep symbollic meaning to you. combined with intense meditative focus and visualization

I actually studied this idea, the notions of "Perception is Reality" and the placebo notions of non-survivalist "Mind Over Matter". 

Tricking yourself is the key to "magic", as how strong a spell works on anyone is based on how much you can force your will through their capacity for gullibility/openness to change. This is why some of the "deeper" levels of Shaman go so far and complicated towards their rituals; They have to believe it or it's not real. 

As a side note, there's ways to forcibly trick the brain into newer mindsets, like hypnosis on weak willed subjects, subtly placed symbols spread out in their environment to condition if not outright gaslight them (like advertisements), seizure stimulus paired with deep bass, forcing people to not sleep or use the restroom while pummeling them with mantras, or otherwise repeatedly reinforcing/torturing the subject in question with an embedded goal, but you are too weak to push that hard. 

Rituals and Sacrifices and the like can imprint strongly on the mind and trigger adrenaline, among other chems of the body, to the point of allowing self-brainwashing (autohypnosis). Through imprinting and associations, people can more easily call upon past experiences. 

If you believe what you're doing is working, and it's not occurring through the material, then it's about as harmless as a five year old playing pretend with themselves. What makes it different however... is that how much someone believes themselves can become contagious towards onlookers (a phenomenon noted in relation to victims of Narcissists). 


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The reason the rituals and lifestyle practices can get so complex is over them trying to fool themselves into believing their own hype.

Pulling the wool over your eyes is the "fastest" way to shed doubt, but it'll also leave you delusional once you stop being able to tell the differences between the material and the mental. 

I personally follow some rituals by the book, some I make up completely on my own and some I combine, based on what I feel will manifest the results I want in the most effective way possible

If faith to the point of altering your perceptions is the path, then you're succeeding. 

If I was to give you advice, I would not necessarily tell you what I personally do as its personal to me. I would give you a by the book or recommended ritual that you could either use as is or customize to make it your own variation of it

I've been looking into PDFs of recommended materials on Wiccan blogs/forums on and off for years now. It's such a good gateway for seeing into the needs of Man, and it gives a unified codex for their subcultural lingo. 

Again, as a non-believer I've likely looked into more things and seen more "Magic" than you have. I was engaged to a Wiccan-gone-Neopagan who I'd otherwise been dating for years, it's not my first rodeo with the "knowledge". 

Advanced magicians/sorcerers do not need to do anything by the book, they write the book.

When it comes to any practice, they study the masters and then apply their own take on it. 

You lack the studying portion. 

they do what manifests the results they want, and they do it creatively and intuitively. of course study what your ancestors and teachers have done before you, and there are times it is beneficial to follow exact instructions

It's more than benefits, it's the foundation. You've been sitting there spouting blasphemy about even the oldest tenant ever: "What Goes Around Comes Around", except your faith claims it returns three-fold

It's all up to your intuition on what will work best for you personally, at the end of the day. thats the fun of magik

The intuition of a fool will lead one to folly just as quickly as the intuition of a gourmand will find food. 

All it tells you is what you know, what you believe. 

Ę̵̚x̸͎̾i̴͚̽s̵̻͐t̷͐ͅe̷̯͠n̴̤̚t̵̻̅i̵͉̿a̴̮͊l̵͍̂ ̴̹̕D̵̤̀e̸͓͂t̵̢͂e̴͕̓c̸̗̄t̴̗̿ï̶̪v̷̲̍é̵͔
last edit on 1/26/2020 6:18:09 PM
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hm, I dont agree

 

what I've been saying is right, you just must have tried magik before and failed miserably at it and now are bitter. magik only opens its doors for some, and for good reason too. its just not part of your life plan my dude

 

cant relate, its working wonders for me currently:)

last edit on 1/26/2020 4:26:45 PM
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hm, I dont agree

 

what I've been saying is right, you just must have tried magik before and failed miserably at it and now are bitter. magik only opens its doors for some, and for good reason too. its just not part of your life plan my dude

 

cant relate, its working wonders for me currently:)

If magic is real (in the direct sense of it, not the materially explainable portions like alchemy and suggestion), why would I do something as stupid as casting a spell

Magic is a faithful explanation for either wishful thinking or things we otherwise can't explain yet, and if people got to the point of throwing fireballs at each other you can bet my first object of study would be anti-magic. 

Ę̵̚x̸͎̾i̴͚̽s̵̻͐t̷͐ͅe̷̯͠n̴̤̚t̵̻̅i̵͉̿a̴̮͊l̵͍̂ ̴̹̕D̵̤̀e̸͓͂t̵̢͂e̴͕̓c̸̗̄t̴̗̿ï̶̪v̷̲̍é̵͔
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whats in it for me to take the effort to explain it to you?

 

oh ya, nothing

 

which is why i dont give a fuck what you think lol

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