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Uncovering the mystery of Natalee


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this girl at my work is extremely sketchy. she has a bizarre background story, and odd characteristics about her that I don't understand *why* they're there. I'm trying to connect all the dots and figure her out, and the truth about her background. 

 

she says she never knew her father. but she also said she lived in Morocco for a long time, and speaks arabic- because her father's business, and because he is arabic. She also gave everyone at work a fake name at first- though I figured out her actual name is Natalee- not what she is going by to most people. 

 

I asked her why she does this, now that we're in a comfortable place as friends and its appropriate to ask. And she said it was for business Skype sessions, pertaining to a job she used to have where she would speak to people overseas, about money. It was a financial job, she had through her boyfriend hiring her. 

 

She says her ex boyfriend was extremely abusive, and that's why she left him and left Morocco and returned to America. 

 

I noticed blonde roots coming through at the back of her neck, and also she has very dark skin but I can tell it's a spray tan. She is pretending to be dark skinned, and dark haired- I can tell the hair is dyed, not naturally black just by how it looks. But she is naturally a very pale white girl with blonde hair. She also originally had a green-ish hazel eye color, I noticed because I have the same eye color and when I looked her in the eyes when I met her face to face for the first time I remember that was the first thing that struck me was her eye color. After that initial meeting, and I commented on her eye color- she started wearing brown contacts. I shit you not. 

 

Someone came into work speaking arabic and she was able to speak to them fluently holding a conversation and even understood the different descripencies between pronunciations and phrasings and dialects, from different areas of the Middle East- including descpencies between Egyptian and Isreali, and more. 

 

Strange. 

 

She never knew her arabic speaking father and yet she speaks it so fluently, and knows it like the back of her hand. 

 

She claims to of lived in morocco for a very long time- with her children which she got from the abusive husband she divorced and left morocco over. 

 

Strange. 

 

Is she another Natalee Holloway? Or is she... is she Natalee Holloway?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Natalee_Holloway 

"On November 12, 2010, tourists found a jawbone on an Aruban beach near the Phoenix Hotel and Bubali Swamp.[153] Preliminary examination by a forensic expert determined that the bone was from a young woman.[154] A part of the bone was sent to The Hague for testing by the Netherlands Forensic Institute.[154][155] On November 23, 2010, Aruba Solicitor-General Taco Stein announced that based on dental records, the jawbone was not of Holloway"

 

oh and by the way-

 https://www.distancefromto.net/distance-from-morocco-to-peru 

" was an eighteen-year-old American woman whose mysterious disappearance made international news after she vanished on May 30, 2005, near the end of a high school graduation trip to Aruba in the Caribbean."

 

She said after she left her abusive ex she actually had to be in hiding from him, because he was so controlling and threatening. It was as if she was trapped and escaped. She had to essentially live "under cover" for a long time. 

 

And then- she told me he did eventually find her, living in Seattle- where she had been working at a Starbucks, and living, laying low. The apartment she lived in she said had very high security against these types of specific sitatuations and thats' why she picked it- to keep herself and her kids safe. I know there aren't really apartment complexes specialized in this though, she was likely living in a safe house- also considering the fact she doesn't have enough money to make ends meet- 

 

she also said at one point she was living in her car, with her children. 

 

Jesus Christ. On the run? 

 

But yeah when the abusive ex found her where she was- she fled again.

 

I don't know at one point she started working and living here, but we met recently because we were hired to work in the same establishment very recently. 

 

I just can't help but wonder... why did she go to Morocco and disappear, really? She's told two stories that makes no sense and contradict- on this specific topic. She said, "my father's business was here." and she also said, "I Neve rknew my father." 

 

contradiction = lies

 

she even looks similar to Natalee Holloway. Like, the same lips, smile, same eyebrow shape. the only thing that's different is that she appears much skinnier than the 18 year old photo of the original Natalee Holloway on wikipedia. 

 

But she said she does, "intermittent fasting" and she refused to eat anything at work- she doesn't take lunch breaks and smokes. Even the smallest morsel of food I've tried offering her she won't eat- even a coffee has too much sugar and calories to her- which tells me she is starving herself on purpose. She said she tries to go long as possible without eating. 

  

 

She also told me she takes a medication for anxiety, and she said she has really bad anxiety. 

 

Age wise, she hasn't told me her exact age but I can tell by the aging under her eyes and on her face, and the age of her children. She is very close if not, the exact age Natalee Holloway would be today. 

 

*chills* 

 

another weird thing- is she is trying to move in with me. We've only known each other two weeks. She is obviously trying to benefit financially from our friendship and another thing she has proposed is- that she wants to travel with me. Specifically to the Netherlands

 

"Aruban investigators conducted an extensive but futile search and rescue/recovery operation. American special agents from the FBI,[13] fifty Dutch soldiers and three specially-equipped Dutch Air Force F-16 aircraft participated in the search." 

 

"On July 4, the Royal Netherlands Air Force deployed three F-16 aircraft equipped with infrared sensors to aid in the search, but the results came up empty.[13][15] In March 2006 it was reported that satellite photos were being compared with photographs taken more recently (presumably from the F-16s) in an attempt to find unexpected shifts of ground that might be Holloway's grave."

 

"On September 3, the four detained suspects were released by a judge despite the attempts of the prosecution to keep them in custody. The suspects were released on the condition that they remain available to police.[74] On September 14, all restrictions on them were removed by the Combined Appeals Court of the Netherlands Antilles and Aruba."

 

"Citing what was described as newly discovered evidence, Aruban investigators rearrested Van der Sloot and the Kalpoe brothers on November 21, 2007, on suspicion of involvement in "manslaughter and causing serious bodily harm that resulted in the death of Holloway."[10] Van der Sloot was detained by Dutch authorities in the Netherlands, while the Kalpoe brothers were detained in Aruba.[10] Van der Sloot was returned to Aruba, where he was incarcerated."

 

"Van der Sloot was released without charge on December 7 due to lack of evidence implicating him as well as a lack of evidence that Holloway died as the result of a violent crime. The prosecution indicated it would not appeal.[105]"

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Further dutch involvement with the case: 

 

"Dutch television programme[edit]
On January 31, 2008, Dutch crime reporter Peter R. de Vries claimed that he had solved the Holloway case.[110] De Vries stated that he would tell all on a special television program on Dutch television on February 3.[110] On February 1, the Dutch media reported that Van der Sloot made a confession regarding Holloway's disappearance. Later that day, Van der Sloot stated that he was telling the individual what he wanted to hear, and denied any involvement in her disappearance.[111] That same day, the Aruba prosecutor's office announced the reopening of the case.[23]

The broadcast, aired on February 3, 2008, included excerpts from footage recorded from hidden cameras and microphones in the vehicle of Patrick van der Eem, a Dutch businessman and ex-convict[112] who gained Van der Sloot's confidence. Van der Sloot was seen smoking marijuana[113] and stating that he was with Holloway when she began convulsively shaking, then became unresponsive. Van der Sloot stated that he attempted to revive her, without success. He said that he called a friend, who told Van der Sloot to go home and who disposed of the body.[114] An individual reputed to be this friend, identified in the broadcast as Daury, has denied Van der Sloot's account, indicating that he was then in Rotterdam at school.[115]

The Aruban prosecutor's office attempted to obtain an arrest warrant for Van der Sloot based on the tapes; however, a judge denied the request.[116] The prosecutor appealed the denial, but the appeal failed on February 14.[117] The appeals court held that the statements on the tape were inconsistent with evidence in the case and were insufficient to hold Van der Sloot.[118] On February 8, Van der Sloot met with Aruban investigators in the Netherlands and denied that what he said on the tape was true, stating that he was under the influence of marijuana at the time. Van der Sloot indicated that he still maintains that he left Holloway behind on the beach.[112]

In March 2008, news reports indicated that Van der Eem was secretly taped after giving an interview for Aruban television. Van der Eem, under the impression that cameras had been turned off, disclosed that he had been a friend of Van der Sloot for years (contradicting his statement on De Vries' show that he had met Van der Sloot in 2007), that he expected to become a millionaire through his involvement in the Holloway case, and that he knew the person who supposedly disposed of Holloway's body—and that Van der Sloot had asked him for two thousand euros to buy the man's silence. According to Dutch news service ANP, Van der Eem, who had already signed a book deal, "was furious" after learning of the taping and "threatened" the interviewer, who sought legal advice.[119] Van der Eem's book Overboord (Overboard),[120] co-written with E.E. Byars, was released (in Dutch) on June 25.[121] Van der Eem was arrested on December 13 in the Netherlands for allegedly hitting his girlfriend with a crowbar and engaging in risky driving behavior while fleeing police.[122]

The De Vries broadcast was discussed in a seminar by Dutch legal psychologist Willem Albert Wagenaar, who indicated that the statements did not constitute a confession. Wagenaar criticized De Vries for broadcasting the material, stating that the broadcast made it harder to obtain a conviction, and had De Vries turned over the material to the authorities without broadcasting it, they would have held "all the trumps" in questioning Van der Sloot. Wagenaar opined that not only was the case not solved, it was not even clear that a crime had been committed. Professor Crisje Brants, in the same seminar, also criticized De Vries' methods.[123]

On November 24, Fox News aired an interview with Van der Sloot in which he alleged that he sold Holloway into sexual slavery, receiving money both when Holloway was taken, and later on to keep quiet. Van der Sloot also alleged that his father paid off two police officers who had learned that Holloway was taken to Venezuela. Van der Sloot later retracted the statements made in the interview.[24] Fox News also aired part of an audio recording provided by Van der Sloot, which he alleged is a phone conversation between him and his father, in which the father displays knowledge of his son's purported involvement in human trafficking. According to Mos, this voice heard on the recording is not that of Paulus van der Sloot—the Dutch newspaper De Telegraaf reported that the "father's" voice is almost certainly that of Joran van der Sloot himself, trying to speak in a lower tone.[124] Paulus died of a heart attack on February 10, 2010.[125]

On March 20, 2009, Dave Holloway transported a search dog to Aruba to search a small reservoir in the northern part of the island. The reservoir was previously identified by a supposed witness as a possible location of Natalee's remains. Aruban authorities indicated that they had no new information in the case, but that Holloway had been given permission to conduct the search.[126]

On February 23, 2010, it was reported that Van der Sloot had stated in an interview (first offered to RTL Group in 2009) that he had disposed of Holloway's body in a marsh on Aruba. New chief prosecutor Peter Blanken indicated that authorities had investigated the latest story, and had dismissed it. Blanken stated that the "locations, names, and times he gave just did not make sense."[127]

In March 2010, underwater searches were conducted by Aruban authorities after an American couple reported[128] that they were snorkeling when they photographed what they thought might be human skeletal remains, possibly those of Holloway. Aruban authorities sent divers to investigate, but no remains were ever recovered." 

 

 

More about Van der Sloot

 

"Van der Sloot's extortion of Holloway family[edit]
On March 29, 2010, Van der Sloot contacted John Q. Kelly, Beth Twitty's legal representative, with an offer to reveal the location of Holloway's body and the circumstances surrounding her death, if he were given advance of US$25,000 against a total of $250,000.[130] After Kelly notified the FBI, they arranged to proceed with the transaction.[131][132] On May 10, Van der Sloot had a $15,000 wire transferred to his account in the Netherlands, following the receipt of $10,000 in cash that was videotaped by undercover investigators in Aruba.[133] Authorities stated that the information that he provided in return was false because the house in which he said Holloway's body was located had not yet been built at the time of her disappearance.[134] On June 3, Van der Sloot was charged in the U.S. District Court of Northern Alabama with extortion and wire fraud.[135] U.S. Attorney Joyce White Vance obtained an arrest warrant and transmitted it to Interpol.[136][137] On June 30, Van der Sloot was indicted on the charges.[138]

At the request of the U.S. Justice Department, authorities conducted a June 4 raid and confiscated items from two homes in the Netherlands. One of the homes belonged to reporter Jaap Amesz, who had previously interviewed Van der Sloot and claimed knowledge of his criminal activities.[139] Aruban investigators used information gathered from the extortion case to launch a new search at a beach, but no new evidence was found.[140] Dave Holloway returned to Aruba on June 14 to pursue possible new clues.[141]

Van der Sloot's murder of Stephany Flores Ramirez in Peru[edit]
On May 30, 2010—five years to the day after Holloway's disappearance—Stephany Flores Ramírez, a 21-year-old business student, was reported missing in Lima, Peru. She was found dead three days later in a hotel room registered in Van der Sloot's name.[142] On June 3, Van der Sloot was arrested in Chile on a murder charge and extradited to Peru the next day.[143] On June 7, Peruvian authorities said that Van der Sloot confessed to killing Flores after he lost his temper because she accessed his laptop without permission and found information linking him to Holloway.[144] Police chief César Guardia related that Van der Sloot told Peruvian police that he knew where Holloway's body was and offered to help Aruban authorities find it.[131][145] However, Guardia stated that the interrogation was limited to their case in Peru, and that questions about Holloway's disappearance were avoided.[146] On June 11, Van der Sloot was charged in Lima Superior Court with first-degree murder and robbery.[147] On June 15, Aruban and Peruvian authorities announced an agreement to cooperate and allow investigators from Aruba to interview Van der Sloot at Miguel Castro Castro prison in Peru.[148] In a September 2010 interview from the prison, Van der Sloot reportedly admitted to the extortion plot, stating: "I wanted to get back at Natalee's family—her parents have been making my life tough for five years."[149] On January 11, 2012, Van der Sloot pleaded guilty to murdering Flores[20] and was sentenced to 28 years in prison."

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Van der Sloot's involvement: 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joran_van_der_Sloot 

 

Joran Andreas Petrus van der Sloot (Dutch pronunciation: [ˈjoːrɑn vɑn dεr ˈsloːt]; born 6 August 1987) is a Dutch convicted murderer

 

Born Joran Andreas Petrus van der Sloot
6 August 1987 (age 32)
Arnhem, Netherlands[1]
Other names Murphy Jenkins

Occoupation: Occupation Student,[3] restaurateur, gambler

["A restaurateur is a person who opens and runs restaurants professionally. Although over time the term has come to describe any person who owns a restaurant, traditionally it refers to a highly skilled professional who is proficient in all aspects of the restaurant business."] -wikipedia 

 

Conviction(s) Qualified murder, simple robbery (Peru)[7]
Criminal charge Extortion, wire fraud (United States)[8]

Criminal status Sentenced to 28 years

 

"Holloway was scheduled to fly home from the Caribbean island on May 30, 2005, but she failed to appear for her flight.[6] She was last seen by her classmates outside of Carlos'n Charlie's, a restaurant and nightclub in Oranjestad.[7] She was in a car with local residents Joran van der Sloot and brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe. When the three men were questioned, they said that they dropped off Holloway at her hotel and denied knowing what had become of her.[8] Upon further investigation by authorities, Van der Sloot was arrested twice on suspicion of involvement in her disappearance and the Kalpoes were each arrested three times. Due to lack of evidence, the three suspects were released each time without being charged with a crime.[9][10] Holloway's parents have criticized Aruban police for the lack of progress in the investigation and interrogation of the three men who were last seen with their daughter. The family also called for a boycott of Aruba, which gained Alabama Governor Bob Riley's support but failed to gain widespread backing."

 

"The Aruban prosecutor's office reopened the case on February 1, 2008, after receiving video footage of Van der Sloot, under the influence of marijuana, saying that Holloway died on the morning of her disappearance, and that a friend had disposed of her body.[23] Van der Sloot later denied that what he had said was true, and in an interview said that he had sold Holloway into sexual slavery.[24] He later retracted his comments. In 2012, Van der Sloot was convicted of the May 30, 2010, murder of Stephany Flores Ramírez in Lima, Peru." 

 

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He made and then redacted confessions, facts, information, evidence- and continued to manipulate this case for a decade. Including falsifying evidence and even vocally impersonating Natalee's father's voice on the phone to authorities. He continued to benefit from the case financially as well, through film and reports which he manipulated the production and script to distract from his involvement and point fingers in the other direction toward other conclusions, leads and suspects. Manipulating media coverage, journalists, new TV, and scripts for movies directly, countless times. With lies, manipulation and falsified evidence. -blanc

 

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"She speaks arabic- because her father's business, and because he is arabic. She also gave everyone at work a fake name at first- though I figured out her actual name is Natalee- not what she is going by to most people."

 

"I asked her why she does this, now that we're in a comfortable place as friends and its appropriate to ask. And she said it was for business Skype sessions, pertaining to a job she used to have where she would speak to people overseas, about money. It was a financial job, she had through her boyfriend hiring her." 

 

The job she had through her boyfriend involved the shifting and moving of money overseas, which we found Ven Der Sloot was convinced guilty for in the US of doing. ILLEGAL wire transfers. He had a gambling thing, a thing for making money obviously- and moving it around in illegal ways- trhgouh extortion, wire fraud, and robbery. He likely used Natalee and other girls at gun point to get on these Skype sessions to do face to face meetings with banks- where as, Natalee at work explained to me face to face- she would speak with them in other langauges- and help people get money or loans who had no credit or had debt, and things of this nature. 
 

This is not what a financial advisor does, though she called herself one. This is basically one of the many ways people commit fraud. The "people" she was helping were likely false identities that Sloot was using to move the money he made in illegal ways, where he can expound upon and launder it more easily. 

 

He also had a restaurant business, which was likely- where he laundered the money and cooked the books. 

 

Natalee said she worked at Starbucks for 7 years. It's very difficult to get hired there without experience, and it's likely she had restaurant experience from the business her kidnapper owned. 

 

Natalee told me at work she worked in a restaurant business overseas that her husband owned while they were living there. -blanc

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"Dutch journalist Peter R. de Vries has pursued Van der Sloot in undercover reports"

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I think my coworker is Natalee Holloway lol. She also said she is extremely private and does not have any social media- she also has a ring doorbell app on her phone, and is extremely paranoid about people being in her house. 

 

Her son once did the dishes for her and she freaked out, showing me a note that she found, her son didn't leave a name. And she just found the note in her house and instantly thought that someone had been in her house and left a mysterious note- failing to recognize the probability it was one of her sons. She has two by the way. 

 

She went into a full swing panic attack, thought she should call the police, and ran to the bathroom at work and disappeared for 15+ minutes. I spied on her in the hallway where the bathroom was, and she was talking on the phone with someone very anxiously pacing around. I think she thought there was someone in her house, and was having a sort of "ptsd" reaction, considering her previous experiences of being tracked down by her abusive ex, who she has yet to name. Who found her living in Seattle. 

 

And by the way, the kids, they look like him. Exactly, like him. 

 

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Van Der Sloot. 

 

 

other random details: 

She told me overseas she went by "Nia" 

Why did she feel the need to change her name once living overseas. 

Why was it a different name than the name she used for business purposes. 

Why did she use a different name for her job, if it wasn't doing something incredibly illegal and sketch. 

Why does she use a different name here at work in the states, if she isn't trying to hide something. She said she's been going by this "work name" since she returned to America and started working and living in Seattle. 

So many different names, and she never uses her birth name. 

 I don't think I was supposed to figure out her name was Natalee. 

 

 

She wants to move in with me, and yet, she does not want to file as a co-signer. She said she has terrible credit because she had to put her leaving her Seattle apartment suddenly as an eviction. But I think the real reason is because, she can't use her real name, as Natalee Holloway is pronounced legally dead, and getting a working false identity where she won't be recognized, costs thousands of dollars. 

Things like buying a house or renting an apartment are hard for her, which is why she lived in her car at one point. And why she is so insistent on living with me, under my name. Secretly, essentially. 

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Just how many pumpkin spice lattes have you had today?

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Blanc said: 

this girl at my work is extremely sketchy. she has a bizarre background story, and odd characteristics about her that I don't understand *why* they're there. I'm trying to connect all the dots and figure her out, and the truth about her background. 

I can see how you two became fast friends, it's something you guys have in common.

As for the rest of your narrative, what kind of friend reports someone who's supposed to be in hiding to a public forum? 

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Blanc said: 

this girl at my work is extremely sketchy. she has a bizarre background story, and odd characteristics about her that I don't understand *why* they're there. I'm trying to connect all the dots and figure her out, and the truth about her background. 

I can see how you two became fast friends, it's something you guys have in common.

As for the rest of your narrative, what kind of friend reports someone who's supposed to be in hiding to a public forum? 

 Fake friends for lyfe! 

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Too much lines up here, so strange! 

 

Too many coincidental things aligning perfectly for her to not be her. She even looks like her. 

 

I thought something was off about her when I first met her because of the spray tan and the dark hair that is obviously fake, but I thought maybe she's just trying to look like Kim Kardashian. Also that style is popular among people from New Jersey, and up north in general. 

 

But when I saw the blonde hair peeking out from under her ponytail, I just got the weirdest feeling. And I couldn't stop looking at it. Like it just instantly told me there is a past she is trying to cover, I just don't know what. She doesn't want to be blonde anymore, why would she disguise herself so intensely. 

 

It's a lot of money and effort for someone who can barely make ends meet. Natural blonde hair is gorgeous, and the spray tans aren't necessary. The contacts as well. Her original eye color was stunningly beautiful, but it was too catching, so she covered it up the second someone noticed it. 

 

This chic is weird and sketchy as fuck. 

 

No social media??? She also said she has zero friends, and doesn't go out, ever. Zero friends. 

 

Multiple aliases. 

 

Financial extortion, living overseas. Tumultous abusive past, on the run. Living in her car. 

 

Disguises. 

 

Apart from all these weird details about her, this is all I know about her. 

 

She hasn't told me anything about her past, her high School, what she did growing up. Her parents. Where she is from, not even her last name. She hasn't mentioned the name of her abusive ex either. She didn't say what the name of the financial company was she owned. And when I asked her what the restaurant was called she worked and lived near, she dodged the question and I never got a direct answer. There are no details, and nothing else filling in her identity to make her seem like a "real person" 

 

What else does she do besides work and take care of her kids? She appears to have no other interests, involvements, but surviving and hiding or being private. She does not have any goals or intentions for the future. She said she is no longer in contact with her family and that they live far away, and that it makes her sad on the holidays but, "that it's better this way." is the wording she used. 

 

no friends. no family. no history. no involvements. no interests or hobbies. no life. no future. 

 

just, abuse and surviving is all she's really talked about. 

 

it's not just about the details she's told me about herself, and the odd behaviors and disguising, but- anxiety and paranoia, but it's also- what she hasn't told me. 

 

most people who I get to know, instantly tell me, something about their past or where they're from. she never mentions this. most people you get to know their hobbies, their life. their interests. what do they want to study, who do they want to be. what do they love. 

 

she never talks about these type of things, that make someone, real. 

 

all she talks about, is the running, the hiding, the things she's done to survive, and the abuse she's faced. 

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