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I didn't like that it was geared toward making the audience feel bad for the character. Character portrayals are my kind of movies, but I got bored midway through this one. Didn't bother finishing it. 

Put me on screen, I'll make fireworks happen. 

I wonder how much of it is accurate with the comics. Maybe they equally stressed mental illness

Joker's very animated in the comics. Crazy homicidal maniac hellbent on chaos. It's quite fun to watch him go. I got into Batman and his villains a few months back. They are very interesting from a psychological stand point and they have good, believable backgrounds and reasons for doing what they do. There's a whole book talking about the psychology of Batman, his villains, and crime which I read and thoroughly enjoyed. 

They obviously depict mental illness since most of them have issues. The mentally insane go to Arkham Asylum and leave after serving their terms or they escape. They have interesting personalities like The Riddler, suffers from obsessive compulsive disorder, who can't commit a crime without leaving a riddle. The clinicians in the story themselves diagnose them. Not all the criminals are insane, though. 

My favorite villain though? James Gordon Jr. Son to commissioner Gordon. Jim Gordon quickly realizes his son is a psychopath. He'd kill animals and take them apart. He was also suspected of killing his sister's friend for teasing him(He did it, but they can't prove it). What's really interesting to me is one day he decides to visit his dad and tells him he's placed himself in a drug for people like himself. The drug is used to stimulate the pathways in the brain for empathy and make him feel it. Whoever, after feeling empathy, he believes it to be a crutch and starts viewing people like him as being better evolved. So he ends up reversing the formula so the pill actually decreases empathy instead and poisons an infant nutritional facility, making the next generation of children more psychopathic. 

Stories and characters with actual depth is something I never expected out of Batman. I'm glad that someone gifted me the book that opened me up to it. 

I really like some of their names. For example The Riddler name is Edward Nygma, which is a pun for Enigma. Now I know what to change my name to if I ever need to. 

I just read my post above and found it interesting that I made several grammatical errors. That is very quite uncharacteristic of me. What caused it? I was sort of rushing to write my thoughts without paying too much attention to how I said things. 

Well as Joker is a state of mind, they are not just one single character but more, that all took on the name, we believe. All the jokers have different stories, different looks, different ways that they operate. We believe that the joker in the recent film is the origin of the Joker stand alone complex phenomena. Hence the time it takes place in.  

Think of a character that's a superposition of Batman and Joker. What's funny for the Joker is grotesque for Batman. And what's righteous for Batman is torment for the Joker. Not being able to be fully Batman or fully Joker, this character writhes in pain. What a poor little fella. I'm channelling my inner Jordan Peterson now. 

Slay said: 

Joker's very animated in the comics. Crazy homicidal maniac hellbent on chaos. It's quite fun to watch him go. I got into Batman and his villains a few months back. They are very interesting from a psychological stand point and they have good, believable backgrounds and reasons for doing what they do. There's a whole book talking about the psychology of Batman, his villains, and crime which I read and thoroughly enjoyed.....

 I never read the comics but I was told about the deep interpretations of crime that revolve around them.

I wonder if the jokers origins from the comics are even remotely similar. Even if they aren't, as long as the concept is the same then that's ok

I torrented it a couple days ago. I'll watch it tonight. 

FOTS said: 

 I never read the comics but I was told about the deep interpretations of crime that revolve around them.

Truth be told, "The Comics" is a broad concept. Every so many years the writers change (and there's multiples of them who don't agree with each other) and they retcon a lot of stuff, like, a lot of stuff, so there isn't technically just one story imo. 

When it comes to hero comics, especially DC comics, the characters tend to be more archetypal than anything else, like a consistent list of tropes. Elseworld comics use these archetypes and change a few things around for a What-If story (like what if Superman was raised in the Batman lifestyle, or raised as Stalin's attendant (Speeding Bullet and Red Son respectively). 

I wonder if the jokers origins from the comics are even remotely similar. 

Nnnnnope. 

If you want his origins at it's most likely (I say most likely because Joker makes an odd statement about treating one's past as multiple choice), you want to read Tim Burton's favorite comic "The Killing Joke". 

Looking into the writing and acting crew for the Joker movie, they actually had a lot of say and sway over the plot, handling it as largely adaptive based on their strengths and ideas. It was meant to deviate from the source material and be more like an acting exercise, and is very very far from being canon. 

Even Elseworld plots are arguably more canon. "The Batman Who Laughs" is more like The Joker than the current rendition. 

The best Joker bar none will always be Mark Hammil's. It was the perfect fusion of every era's Joker up to that point, the voice is the iconic voice people recognize, and it was the closest to the archetypal ideal that we've seen to date.