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Guide to dealing with Bullies/trolls (dedicated to Blanc)


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc8NT23gelI if you are going to read my post please watch this video beforehand because I'm going to spoil it later on in the text.


Ok so here is a set of rules I stick to and have picked up through both being bullied/trolled and being a bully/troll. Every1 please feel free to add their own insight and/or poke holes in my philosophy so we can all come to better, more airtight conclusions.

Bullies/trolls online:

The thing about people online especially on a forum like this is that we are basically on the same playing field. We all start out as completely equal. We register our usernames and passwords with no link to our emails, no matter how big and strong you are or weak and small you are IRL it is completely irrelevant.

Rule 1: The law of exposure:

Don't expose anything about yourself that you are not prepared to be attacked or made fun of for. I feel like this is common sense. But in studying my own psychopathy I am finding out that what I feel is common sense, tends to not end up being common sense to normal people. The video I linked at the beginning of the video, I spotted the weak one instantly, I even said out loud "The redhead she has a limp!". If I am a mugger in the ghetto, of course I am going to pick someone like that, if I see a guy on crutches, I know he can't run away. With the redhead I wouldn't even need a weapon. She is lucky she hasn't been raped into walking properly yet. It's common sense to me that I wouldn't expose anything online I wasn't prepared to be made fun or for or attacked about. When I take dark triad tests online though I consistently test extremely high on Machiavellianism. My browser is set up to only work through a proxy, I can't even get on unless I am using someone else's I.P. I would never dream of posting a picture of myself online. I would never expose anything I was truly vunerable about online either. Looking at this though, and why it seems like such a no-brainer, I can objectively analyze that this way of thinking comes from my childhood. I always had to hide things, my father stole all the money I had twice in my life, AS A TEENAGER. Once it was a couple grand the next time it was almost 10 grand. My parents stole my laptop, they would keep my keys if they found them as leverage to do xyz whatever they wanted me to do. So I just naturally developed this very Machiavellian way of being. I have literally 0 friends IRL. No one really knows what  do for a living. I am either a ghost or I am a very "in your face" intimidating bullying (very often violent) person. So although it seems like common sense to me to hide everything about yourself, I guess it's not for most people, so strive to be more Machiavellian especially online and dealing with sociopaths lol.

Rule 2: Turn it around or take it further.

Anytime some1 makes fun of me online, I look at what they said, and I either try to somehow turn it around on them, or I just take the joke further to my expense. It shows I am not effected at all. If some1 says you look like Justin Bieber you can say "That must be why ur gf wont stop PMing me" (the turn-around) or "Yeah I'm actually his older sister, been trying to teach him to be more manly.".

Rule 3: Never ever show you have been effected by the troll

When you show them you are actually hurt or effected by what they are saying. They actually feed off this. They go further with it, knowing they've hit a weak spot. If they HAVE hit a weak spot and DID hurt your feelings. That is the absolute last thing you want to communicate to them. They see it as victory when they actually get to you.

Dealing with bullies IRL:

dealing with bullies IRL is a whole different ball game. It can be much more of an un-even playing field but only if you let it. Dominating others and making them submit to you is not a "might is right" game, it's a problem solving game. The reason people bully is because it works, it is often times the most effective way to get exactly what you want, which is why I bully a lot IRL and strive to learn how to be a better bully. In the book "power: why some people have it and other's don't". They did studies finding that why workplace bullying was so prevalent was because it was so effective. If you want something from someone and your persuasive advances don't work or are not appropriate in this situation, the two best ways to get someone to do/give you what you want is force, and fear.

1. Bullying in situations where physical force is not appropriate: workplace, social groups, etc

In this environment it is about 1 thing, problem solving. It is about finding creative ways to outsmart your rival, enemy, target, mark, etc. No matter how little power you think you have, you always can find creative ways to gain a lot of power over your opponent. It is just about thinking creatively. If they are your boss, you think they have all this power over you, but in actuality they may be the more vunerable ones. You could more easily than you think make THEM your bitch, using information about them as leverage, going over their head with this information. You could get a background check on them, find a criminal past, and use that. I record every conversation I ever have with this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.appstar.callrecorder&hl=en, and I send these recordings to my email. Whenever I interact with people I am recording all day every day with this http://www.bestbuy.com/site/sony-digital-voice-recorder-black/8572041.p?id=1218879313495&skuId=8572041 and I just save it to my computer and change the batteries frequently. I save every single text message I get from people. I am constantly looking with very open eyes for vulnerabilities in any1 and every1 around me, because although they may be your best friend now or some1 you would least suspect of betrayal, those are usually the ones that if it ever comes to it, can fuck you up the most. Because your guard wasn't up with them. There is an excellent saying "Be careful of the ones you like". It's the people you "let in" and expose your vulnerabilities to that you are giving suffiecient ammo to later destroy you if need be. We have all experienced this. In this book https://www.amazon.com/You-Can-Negotiate-Anything-Negotiator/dp/0553281097 the author Herb Cohen talks about no matter how little power you think you have, you can always find creative ways to have tremendous power over someone.

2. Situations where violence often does happen: prison, school, jail, dealing with people who wont call the cops (E.G bad neighborhoods, drug dealers, gangs, etc)

Here again is an idea that I thought was common sense but seems to be more exclusive to psychopaths. Always take it way further than they will. If you're going to try to beat my ass I'm going to stab you, if I feel like you're the kinda guy that would try to stab me I'm going to kill you. If I feel like you're just going to yell or act intimidating towards me I am going to try my best to kick the shit out of you and if I start to lose I will use whatever is around or I will come prepared with a knife so I can stick you. Always go way further than they will because then they will never try to fuck with you again. In the book "wisdom of psychopaths" the auhor finds this to be a pretty consistent philosophy among psychopaths. It gives your opponent the feeling that they are beaten before they even start, you are willing to take it to a place they aren't, so why even bother? If I know I don't have the balls for a knife fight why I would I try to beat up a guy who does? This is my motto "Train light a champion, fight like a pussy". I am result oriented, all I care about is one thing, winning. I will use whatever is necessary and never give up until I do, if you beat me, you better kill me, because otherwise I am going to find a creative way to even the score. Use whatever is around hot coffee, a chair, a vase, ur moms vibrator, whatever will do the trick. It might not seem like it, but physical bullying is just like non-physical bullying in the way that it is more about creative problem solving than anything. If your husbands is bullying you and wants to get violent. Call the cops immediately after the first incident. Trust me on this one. If you are weaker than a big guy use a weapon that gives YOU the advantage. Hire someone else to beat the shit out of them. Attack them in their sleep, throw bleach into their eyes, find a creative way of attack. Remember, fight like a pussy. Be result oriented and don't care what any1 thinks. The first thing I do when I wake up is start lifting weights, I workout every day and continue to get stronger. But in a fight I strive to fight like a pussy, because a pussy has no boundries, and some1 without boundries always has the odds in their favor. Sun Tzu (the art of war) is the best model for this, he was a considered a coward and a pussy by his peers but was a more effective general than all of them. Because like a psychopath he didn't care what any1 thought of him, and was result oriented.

 

 

 

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Guide to dealing with Bullies/trolls (dedicated to Blanc)

general rules of IRL bullying:

1. The most dangerous thing in the world is to let it go. Always give consequence.

Whenever you let someone fuck with you in either environment. You are inviting them to do it again. If you turn the other cheek, you are going to have a face more red than when pipsqueak does anal (inside joke about a ranch-hand). If you let someone fuck with you and don't IMMEDIATELY give them consequence, you are inviting them to not only do it again, but to do much worse. You are exposing weakness. The BEST way to protect yourself it to counter-attack hard and fast. Even if you have very little resources, even if you haven't thought of a creative way yet, DO SOMETHING. Always give consequences no matter how small for the moment.

2. The "ASAP habit"

The "asap habit" is a phrase I coined from this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpkN9tGraYs he is talking about how whenever some1 fucks with you in prison, it's an absolute must that you get them back right away. ASAP. Not today, not tommrow, right now. It's a right now thing. Either in the moment, or if for some reason you can't do it in the moment, as soon as possible. "revenge is a dish best served cold" is bullshit in the way that you are exposing weakness by not attacking right away, you are inviting them to hurt you more, you are like the housewife that is getting forced-anal that can't bring herself to yell "Rape!". He is going to fuck you harder and harder in the ass feeding off ur screams of agony, and will progressively use less lube. Whenever some1 does ANYTHING that isn't ok with you, no matter how small. You MUST strike right-away. Otherwise you are asking them to hurt you much further.

3. It's like a bubble, pop it when it's small.

In the video he talks about the technique of imagining the bully is doing something much worse, and how you would react he uses "imagine he's raping your sister". This is a technique I use all the time, because it puts things into perspective like "if I don't stop this now, it's going to get far worse'. It will. Behavioral science shows this. It's like a bubble, pop it when it is at it's genesis and you wont see the contents of Pandora's box. It's like a weed. As soon as someone starts fucking with you, you must attack then, nip it in the bud right away. Because it's going to get worse and worse and worse. Clip the weed as it starts to grow, not after the weeds have grown so large and overtaken you, and your only choice is to attack with a weed-eater and the whole ordeal takes way more time, effort, and mental energy than it would have otherwise had you been prudent.


4. The only thing that can defeat a bully is a bigger bully.


There is always a way you can find to be the bigger bully. Just peel away any form of moral values that you have and as you do this doors will open. There is always a way to be the bigger bully.


Protecting your kids, friends, and loved ones from bullies:

1. Your kids at school, what is the answer here?

The answer is you. Plain and simple. You are the one to confront, not the bullies parents, but the bullies themselves. I researched this a lot, how to deal with your kid being bullied at school. And if you go online and research, and research, and research, and get past the fluffy unrealistic articles written for people who want to feel like they are doing something to protect their kids but are really just making things worse for them, you find that the answer is you confronting the bully. Your kids are the most precious thing in the world to you, their protection should come as a priority above everything else in your life. If you look at objective data instead of the idealistic view of people who don't know what they're talking about and are relying on how they "think" things should work instead of basing their thinking in fact, you find that both studies, and comments on articles from parents themselves, say that when THEY confronted the bully, the bullying stopped. Studies show telling the teacher, actually made it worse, the teacher does almost nothing and it proves to the bully he/she can get away with it, same goes for the principal, often times telling the child's parent backfires even further, they feel like you the big mean parent are attacking their little angel with wild accusations that their perfect creation couldn't possibly be capable of. Telling the kid's parents often times makes it even worse than telling the teacher or principal. Because after they hear "what really happened" they either don't believe that the bullying is going on and vow to protect them from the obviously vindictive parent from any consequence, or they rationalize the behavior with their child making It clear to them the behavior is ok. The most effective tried and proven way to deal with someone bullying your kid, is to confront the bully yourself. Think about it, you are a big kid now, you're an adult. God knows what you are capable of. You go right to the bully and give them a stern talking to, if that doesn't work, you go further, period. Would I ever hit one of my kids? Before I hit any1 of my kids I would slice of my balls and force feed them to my vegan grandmother. Would I abuse some1 else's kid? Yeah, I would. And I would 100% be willing to go to prison for my kid too, so you better watch your ass next time you try to hog the teeter totter. Kids don't tell. Plain and simple, that is why they get molested and don't talk about until their 40s, that is why they get the shit kicked out of them by some sociopath and tell their parents it was a stranger they don't know. Kids are fearful, they are afraid, just as weak as we were. I love children, but if you fuck with my kid I don't care who you are, what gender, or what age, I promise I am going to give you consequences. More than promise you, I promise myself I am going to give you consequeces. And whatever consequences befall me I will take them with nothing but pride knowing that I did what I did protecting what I care about most. Any consequences I get from protecting what is most precious to me, I actually am proud of, because it proves to myself that I care more about them than I do myself.

2. Dealing with someone bullying a friend or loved one.

Again the answer is you. Read anything from above in the text of this long-ass post and apply, if that doesn't work apply it harder and with less morals, and if that doesn't work hire someone else more capable, but never give up until they submit or you even the score or preferably both.

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Guide to dealing with Bullies/trolls (dedicated to Blanc)

Why people bully or troll:

1. They have a goal oriented reason

2. They are genuinely doing it just for fun as entertainment, just for the sake of doing it, because they know they can get away with it.

3. They have a need to control or dominate those around them.

4. They are frustrated with themselves and attack other's flaws as a form of both projection and social proof that other's have flaws just like they do so they feel less insecure.

5. They bully you, because they are too afraid to bully who they really want to bully. And because you let them get away with it.

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Guide to dealing with Bullies/trolls (dedicated to Blanc)

The bully mentality vs the victim mentality:

The bully mentality is that of:

Well if I did that, I wonder if I can do this, and if I get away with that I wonder if I can take it even further.

The bully is continuously seeing "how far he can go" before he reaches the line he can't cross. He is testing the waters, and then seeing how far he can go until he hits the place where he can't go, when he actually reaches the point where he receives sufficient consequence enough to not make it worth it to him.

So that is why it is so essential IRL to stop the bully and give consequences asap. Because the bully is going to go further, and further, and further, until you finally do. It's like anal, you stick it in her deep enough to the point she starts saying "stop it's too painful", then you pull back a tad bit, and start fucking her.

You are setting the "out of bounds" for the game. You're either giving them a big playing feel to fuck with you or a little playing field to fuck with you. Once they hit the point where there is a boundry and they get consequence, if they don't stop bullying you, they will do everything they know they can do up to that point, but not cross that final line.

The victim mentality:

Well if I do this, he will probably do xyz thing I am afraid of, or he might try abc thing I am afraid of. If I try one thing, he could do this other thing I am afraid of.

The victim submits and is consumed by fears. They fear that if they stand up for themselves or do anything they are going to get consequences or just make the bullying worse.

Anything they come up with to "strike-back" they don't persue because they see their strike as resulting in a plethora of things they are afraid of and a mountain of consequences.

The trick is to shift the "victim" mentality into a "bully" mentality. That is truly the only thing that can defeat a bully, is another bigger bully. Shift your perception of the bully from "predator" to "prey". Make him something to go after. Make it a game. And problem solve or stop caring about anything they may do that you are afraid of. If you don't dominate this bully and make him submit, he's probably going to end up doing the thing you are afraid of and more than likely far far worse than that. The thing to be most afraid of is not striking back and striking harder than them. Because whatever your fears are, much worse is to come If you don't. Furthermore these fears that consume you 99.99% of the time never happen, even if they have threatened you with them. That is just my experience of how things turn out. Usually 99.99% of the things I was soooooo super scared of happening, never happen at all.

So with a bully, the only thing to fear Is fear itself. Never make decisions out of fear. Worse is to come if you don't attack.

 

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Guide to dealing with Bullies/trolls (dedicated to Blanc)

 

Both mentalities are self-propelling:


The victim mentality:

The victim mentality leads to being much more of a victim. The more you remain in this "victim" mentality consumed by your fears of doing this or that because of the consequences you are afraid are going to befall you, the more the bully goes further and further. And the situation will soon become much worse. The fears that you originally had about doing this or that, are now eclipsed by your current situation which is much worse than if those exact same fears had come to fruition. If you are a woman who has been in a domestically abusive relationship you can reflect on your past life experience and attest that this is true. The more you have the victim mentality the more and more you become a victim. It's only when it gets to the point when they have really really crossed an unbelievable line that you would have never dreamed would have been the final straw that you start to take some effective action agaisnst this person. They finally hit your boundry line.

The bully mentality:

The more you bully someone the more power you gain over them. You feed off the domination you have. You are glad when they make sad attempts to thwart your control because you simply give them more consequences and they are right back to submission. You go further and further and further with this person more or less just to see "how far" you can go in order to know their threshold. You finally hit their boundry line. Then you know you can do everything up to that point and totally get away with it.

Here Is analogy: I am a mugger, (probably some nigger in the ghetto or a guy who invested in Lehman brothers), I go out at night and mug people for their money every night. The first night I am very nervous, I have never held someone at gun-point, I'm not sure what's going to happen, but I go out there and I mug the first person. And he gives me his wallet. Immediately after I run away into the night, running through alleys, taking twists and turns to evade cops that may or may not have even been called, hyper-ventilating I finally resolve I have "got them off my tail" and I go home. I am amazed I got away with it! The next night I mug another guy, and more or less the same scenario occurs minus a few of my clever "twist and turns" through the night evading cops that aren't there. The next night I get my wife to let me barrow my testicles and I mug 2 people. Then the next night 3. Pretty soon I average about 7 people a night, I walk away calm and cool, and hide in my regular spot. It's nothing to me. I continue to try to go further and further, trying to get my numbers up and pretty soon I average around 12 people a night. Then one night I go out mug 11 people, I spot number 12, I try to go through my usual routine with the cap gun I spray painted black that I have yet to replace since my first "heist" and the guy turns out to be a detective. (He was investigating a consistent string of reports of a man hiding in people's dog houses cursing Dick Fuld). All of a sudden I am in the back of a cop car being ridiculed by a couple of uniforms for my lack of investment analysis and crying like a little bitch. Now I have hit the boundry line. I can't mug people 12 people in one night.  I have two choices A. I can quit the thug life or B. I can go right back doing the same thing and problem solve around a make contingencies for not trying to stick up a cop. (example: I could sit outside the police station incognito watching all the cops that go in and out uniform or plain clothes and take good note of their faces, so I would know them if I saw them on the streets. With that fool-proof systematology I can go right back to mugging people after I google at which the rate rookies cops enter a new precinct so I can select a reasonable time to return to sitting outside the cop shop dressed as the lady from mrs. doubtfire.  Or C. I can go back to doing everything up to that boundry line. (which is what most bullies as well as  domestic abusers do)

It's the same thing with bullying. They will either hit the boundry line, and based on the consequences you finally give them they will either submit and quit, problem solve around those consequences, or continue to do everything they have done before, up to that boundry line. (which is what most bullys do).

What to do if you are a victim:

The thing you must do if you are in the victim mentality is to switch to the bully mentality ASAP. Right now. Don't wait, don't procrastinate no matter what. If there is an obstacle preventing you from doing this problem solve around it. Switch right to the bully mentality and start dishing out consequences. If you fear they are going to do XYZ because they have done that same thing in the past, problem solve around it. Now they are not just going to throw their hands up in their air and submit, in fact probably the opposite. Because you are are trying to thwart their control they are probably going to up the ante big time and take their bullying to the next level in order to vanquish any of your attempts to resist their domination. That's fine though, because the level they are "jumping up to" immediately once you start fighting back would have eventually been their default mode down the road as they continued to progressively push further and further with you, furthering their control and domination and seeing "how far they can go". So be glad it's happening now as a reaction to your "fighting back" instead of later on because of your passive acceptance of abuse.

The game begins:

Think of it as a game. Any relational power struggle be it violent or non-violent is in the end a game of out-thinking your opponent. Problem solving and coming up with more severe and effective consequences than they can. You bully them right back and recruit any help E.G big brother (example: sonny Corleone from the godfather's sister always called him when her husband decided to assert his dominance by bullying her and kicking the shit out of her) you can to aid you. This is the game, the consequence game, the who can out-bully who game. If there are any consequences you are REALLY afraid of, problem solve around them, or find a do-able consequence they are extremely afraid of you can threaten them with that you are 100% wiling to follow through on. The game is who can give bigger consequences to the point the other party submits. Once the other party submits you have succeeded in becoming the bigger bully. Might is right, no matter how many hugs you gave hitler he would still be a pissed off little xenophobe, had you threaten to cut off the only testicle he had (he only had one nut) and were willing to fully willing to pull out the sickle, it would have been a different historical account of events. Or had you given him consequences to the point he submitted you would not have a war-mongering, jew, hating dictator you would have a weak little masochist that missed his mommy and wanted you to piss on him (google it).

So that's the game. Become a bully, become a better, bigger bully. Which doesn't mean be bigger physically, because in truth physical might against some1 in 2016 is really just one option in your deck of playing cards and it isn't an ace of spades. Being a bigger bully is about out-thinking and out-problem solving your opponent with better, more immediate, and more severe consequences until they submit or are destroyed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Guide to dealing with Bullies/trolls (dedicated to Blanc)

What to do if you are a bully:

If you are a bully and the person you have turned in to your bitch decides they want to start bullying you back, just do the same stuff described in "the game begins". They are now a bully and the advice about "the game" is totally geared toward bullies.

Why we should all strive to be bullies, and always try to be the biggest bully around:

1. You can bully selectively, bullies usually do, so you can pick and choose strategically who you want to dominate.

2. Might is right. Not physical might especially in this day and age and even physical violence is mainly about out-thinking your opponent. No matter how big a guy is his size becomes irrelevant when confronted with a glock, poison, a well thrown tampon out of a aids stricken sympathetic hooker. We as much as we like to think of ourselves as sophisticated and evolved are essentially primates. We respond most to primitive emotions such as fear. And we submit when given sufficient force.

3. Being a bully is the only way not to get bullied or walked on. If you don't want to do it for yourself to do for those you love and care about around you. You can't kill a bully with kindness, no matter how many fluffy articles you read based not on behavior studies but inspiration from the educational texts known as "Clifford the big red dog. If you look at objective studies you will find that bullying is prevalent because it works. We are monkeys with thumbs, and submit to consequences and force and not "because we see how much we heart your feelings".

4. Being a bully prevents bullying. Prevents bullying, for both you and the loved ones you are protecting and it is really the only way to stop or prevent it. The worst thing you can do is "just let it go", "turn the other cheek", or "respond with kindness" when someone fucks with you. By doing nothing you show them they can get away with it and you invite further and much greater attack. By attacking back and giving consequence you pop the bully bubble and stop it before it really hurts you in a big way. The comedian Bill Burr said it best "Life is prison light, if you show weakness you're going to become somebody's bitch." (something to that effect not the exact quote)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8AMnoYy9Ug 3:06:00 (wait until he says "let your reputation precede you")

 


So victims please become bullies as soon as possible before you are totally and completely fucked, and so you can protect yourself and your families. And bullies, please become better bullies so you may bully people more effectively. Might is always right.

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Guide to dealing with Bullies/trolls (dedicated to Blanc)

Blah blah...

 

 "let your reputation precede you")

You mean like this faggot?  That pile of vomit has quite the reputation..lol...

 Bullying/ abusing kids? There's a fked up self congratulatory thread started by the same sack of shite somewhere here as well. 

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