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The paranoid schizoid solution


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When narcissism fails as a defense mechanism, the narcissist develops paranoid narratives: self-directed confabulations which place him at the center of others’ allegedly malign attention. The narcissist becomes his own audience and self-sufficient as his own, sometimes exclusive, source of narcissistic supply.

The narcissist develops persecutory delusions. He perceives slights and insults where none were intended. He becomes subject to ideas of reference (people are gossiping about him, mocking him, prying into his affairs, cracking his e-mail, etc.). He is convinced that he is the center of malign and mal-intentioned attention. People are conspiring to humiliate him, punish him, abscond with his property, delude him, impoverish him, confine him physically or intellectually, censor him, impose on his time, force him to action (or to inaction), frighten him, coerce him, surround and besiege him, change his mind, part with his values, victimize or even murder him, and so on.

Some narcissists withdraw completely from a world populated with such minacious and ominous objects (really projections of internal objects and processes). They avoid all social contact, except the most necessary. They refrain from meeting people, falling in love, having sex, talking to others, or even corresponding with them. In short: they become schizoids – not out of social shyness, but out of what they feel to be their choice.

“This evil, hopeless world does not deserve me” – goes the inner refrain – “and I shall waste none of my time and resources on it.”Hey dani :D

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Mmmhmm....massive projection. 

Dani has her issues....but a dickless coward of a misogynistic tranny pedo fag....isn't any of them.  

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Man...Sam Vaknin got his degree from a diploma mill. Just saying he's probably not the most trustworthy "expert." Plus being a narc himself, he's likely to be making up shit.

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Plus being a narc himself, he's likely to be making up shit.

Or offering insight from inside

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Yeah, some of it is insightful. Some of it is just bullshit, though. I read through his blog once and seen a few of his podcasts + that movie he was in (which was pretty funny).

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"Sweet are the uses of adversity,
Which, like the toad, ugly and venomous,
Wears yet a precious jewel in his head;
And this our life, exempt from public haunt,
Finds tongues in trees, books in the running brooks,
Sermons in stones, and good in everything.
I would not change it. "

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Not sure which direction to dial my autism for that reference...so....leave that one hanging in the balance..lol..

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Ever try RegettaCanoes?

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Lol glad you noticed that!

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Yeah, I've seen this Sam Vaknin and he has had some interesting notions, but he seems to be labeling everything with some narcissism variant or qualities.  Terminology like "narcissistic style" vs "narcissistic personality disorder" distinctions, putting it in a spectrum of sorts.  Just like the autism and similar buzzwords, narcissism is his.  I don't dismiss him out of hand, but take what he says with a grain (or two) of salt.

I don't know how much I agree with his assessment of schizoid.  Aspects and elements, maybe.  My paranoia isn't a self-persecution style, really.  However, "the world doesn't deserve me" is certainly a complex among other factors.  It doesn't seem as poisonous or conflated as this makes it seem, tbh.  To my mind, such grandiose delusions that everyone's out to get me don't make sense.  Who would waste their time with that?  Even I'm not that self-involved.  I've constantly been tested as lower than average narcissism in nearly every way.

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