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Turncoat stated: source post

Such evasive ad hominem attacks. 

Turncoat stated: source post

He has invalidation arguments against males too, but they tend to be more about their specifics. He needs to invalidate them as a person once he gets weary of the actual argument, which explains why when he'd argue with Spatial that it'd become so personal on both sides instead of about the original topic itself from them both being prone to this in their own ways. 

He has a myriad of excuses for my behavior towards him so that he can resume his mental status quo, and they always come out after he's either become winded or has no actual response left. It's basically an admission that he's given up on that area when that's where he goes, and from it he likely aims to change the discussion to one that'd be easier for him. I could for instance respond to his "pussy whipped" accusation defensively, bringing up topics where I've gone against him without Crow being the focus, bringing up how it tends to be the focus because of how often he targets her from thinking that she's "easy", but then it'd become about that instead for his own convenience. 

Turncoat stated: source post

She is about relevance, Berk is about being a joke. 

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Edvard stated: source post

You calling people here jokes and irrelevant shows unprecedented arrogance, Turn. Hence my pussy remark.

...but it's Berk, if Asta's genuine then she clearly has no idea what's going on, and you're not above this sort of invalidation yourself. At least mine's based on a past history that's formed outside of these arguments with a more-than searchable post history to show why I think these things, yours is instead solely from the fact that I'm arguing against you.

And just like that, you've found a tangent of convenience. If you're going to try this hard to change the argument so that you have a leg to stand on, I'm going to step back from it since you at that point must be arguing for the sake of it solely. It's pointless to continue when you do that. 

Edit: Wait... How is arrogance a sign of being whipped by pussy? 

 

Turncoat stated: source post

Your changing of arguments in the name of your own convenience I'm not going to entertain right now. 

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WW3 stated: source post

...but it's Berk

and?               

 We've discussed my views of you to death. Search it up if you've forgotten. 

 

false in bold

non bold = not backed with any evidence or reasoning 

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Edvard stated: source post

You've also evaded the whole voice request thing when I asked you for it and passed it on to Turncoat.

Evasion, or disinterest? She didn't write one up for anyone, and nothing says that she'd have to â€‹other than your constant insistence to the contrary. 
 

Maybe if you don't want to be considered evasive, show it instead of just saying it's not so.

See the above^
 

As for Alena, she just jumps in the opposite camp from me with every little chance she gets. Pay more attention to her and see the pattern. It had nothing to do with you, but everything to do with her.~

I've watched her for a while, and she's taken sides with people she's in another topic opposed. However, naturally, there are those who can't be sided with from looking too ridiculous to take up the arguments of, and for those people she's never bothered to. I'd personally say that's pretty normal. She also has chosen to not argue at all in many topics where you're making yourself out to be... this, so it's clearly not "every little chance she gets". I wouldn't even say it's that often, simply often enough to be noticed. 
 

Edvard stated: source post

And that's just from the top of my head, and MY questions.

FFS, why are you entitled to answers? 
 

 Her dumb point was: if Crow has to answer a question, then everyone should answer the same q for themselves. I agree with this, if they get asked the question. But no one asked about any of the other's choices of words/top3, because it makes sense to ask only if you are confused about something.

That entitlement of yours... 
 

Edvard stated: source post

^ This doesn't answer anything except: Is Crow an obnoxious stuck-up? You didn't answer Berk, then I asked you. Then Astamiss. Then Cricket herself. Your last posts are just empty words and excuses for getting out of uncomfortable situations.

I'd say this looks more like you're trying to create uncomfortable situations when things don't go your way. 
 

Congratulations, so far you've managed to answer: 0 times.

/entitlement
 

 

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Turncoat stated: source post

 

Not really sure if Berk and Asta count...

The only one who ought to count is Cricket, and that could be resolved in a PM, having you not be any the wiser on it and still complaining about not having your questions answered.  

 

Turncoat stated: source post

She is about relevance, Berk is about being a joke. 

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Edvard stated: source post

You calling people here jokes and irrelevant shows unprecedented arrogance, Turn. Hence my pussy remark.

...but it's Berk, if Asta's genuine then she clearly has no idea what's going on, and you're not above this sort of invalidation yourself. At least mine's based on a past history that's formed outside of these arguments with a more-than searchable post history to show why I think these things, yours is instead solely from the fact that I'm arguing against you.
 

Edvard stated: source post

I edited the secretive part, it was a ESL mistake.

"she clearly has no idea what's going on "

Holy shit, you are even more patronizing now. Are you calling Astamiss too dumb to understand a simple q, why did Crow list Cricket as the most untrustworthy?

 

Astamiss stated: source post

Well I just want to make sure you know that I do know what the inquiry is about.

"Why did crow say cricket was untrustworthy?". I can dissect this if that helps.

So crow said cricket was untrustworthy. It is a negative comment that did not come with an explanation. It does not show me the experiences crow has gone through to come to the conclusion. I wondered about the process that went through her mind when she came to the conclusion.

It does not even make sense to assume that I do not understand. I asked and even had assumptions for possible answers. I would not be able to make assumptions of possibilities without understanding the main point. It would make sense if you are not referring to the simple inquiry in of itself. It means you might be referring to something different.

 

I'm still wondering about this...

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Turncoat stated: source post

 

Edvard stated: source post

You've also evaded the whole voice request thing when I asked you for it and passed it on to Turncoat.

Evasion, or disinterest? She didn't write one up for anyone, and nothing says that she'd have to â€‹other than your constant insistence to the contrary. 
 

Maybe if you don't want to be considered evasive, show it instead of just saying it's not so.

See the above^
 

As for Alena, she just jumps in the opposite camp from me with every little chance she gets. Pay more attention to her and see the pattern. It had nothing to do with you, but everything to do with her.~

I've watched her for a while, and she's taken sides with people she's in another topic opposed. However, naturally, there are those who can't be sided with from looking too ridiculous to take up the arguments of, and for those people she's never bothered to. I'd personally say that's pretty normal. She also has chosen to not argue at all in many topics where you're making yourself out to be... this, so it's clearly not "every little chance she gets". I wouldn't even say it's that often, simply often enough to be noticed. 
 

Edvard stated: source post

And that's just from the top of my head, and MY questions.

FFS, why are you entitled to answers? 
 

 Her dumb point was: if Crow has to answer a question, then everyone should answer the same q for themselves. I agree with this, if they get asked the question. But no one asked about any of the other's choices of words/top3, because it makes sense to ask only if you are confused about something.

That entitlement of yours... 
 

Edvard stated: source post

^ This doesn't answer anything except: Is Crow an obnoxious stuck-up? You didn't answer Berk, then I asked you. Then Astamiss. Then Cricket herself. Your last posts are just empty words and excuses for getting out of uncomfortable situations.

I'd say this looks more like you're trying to create uncomfortable situations when things don't go your way. 
 

Congratulations, so far you've managed to answer: 0 times.

/entitlement
 

 

Turncoat stated: source post

People skim through and skip my posts all the time, and I both don't answer everyone's questions and don't have everyone answer mine. I don't go on some sort of vengeance crusade across topics when that happens, because it doesn't mean as much to me as it does to you. If it does, I'll probably have a point where I can ask again and have it feel like organic discussion. WW3 note - ed doesnt go on vengeance crusades either.

"Judged by everyone", I think you're the only one here who's really taking the judging mantle to heart. I'm pretty sure the rest of us don't care too much. 

Turncoat stated: source post

Except it's clear that he cares, he's basically said it himself and I don't see any room for him to deny it, and he's the one who begged the comparison in the form of a yes or no question with the assumption that his way of going about things is normal. It's not like when that's pulled on TK, as TK would never accept that she cares about something that isn't from a small list of things, but instead it's closer to reiteration of something he's already admitted to. Said binary means I'm stuck with "Yes, I care as much as you do" or "no, I don't care as much as you do" with a "and here's why" following either.

Ed's not one for option C, as that'd be seen as being evasive. 

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Edvard stated: source post

Crow didn't answer because she didn't feel like it~ Not evasion, but disinterest or lazyness... which made her type a small novel instead.

You mean the small novel you dismiss from it not being the answer you wanted, but instead a discussion on your motives?  

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Turncoat stated: source post

People skim through and skip my posts all the time, and I both don't answer everyone's questions and don't have everyone answer mine. I don't go on some sort of vengeance crusade across topics when that happens, because it doesn't mean as much to me as it does to you. If it does, I'll probably have a point where I can ask again and have it feel like organic discussion. 

"Judged by everyone", I think you're the only one here who's really taking the judging mantle to heart. I'm pretty sure the rest of us don't care too much. 

Turncoat stated: source post

Except it's clear that he cares, he's basically said it himself and I don't see any room for him to deny it, and he's the one who begged the comparison in the form of a yes or no question with the assumption that his way of going about things is normal. It's not like when that's pulled on TK, as TK would never accept that she cares about something that isn't from a small list of things, but instead it's closer to reiteration of something he's already admitted to. Said binary means I'm stuck with "Yes, I care as much as you do" or "no, I don't care as much as you do" with a "and here's why" following either.

Ed's not one for option C, as that'd be seen as being evasive. 

Turncoat stated: source post

 

Edvard stated: source post

Crow didn't answer because she didn't feel like it~ Not evasion, but disinterest or lazyness... which made her type a small novel instead.

You mean the small novel you dismiss from it not being the answer you wanted, but instead a discussion on your motives?  

 

Turncoat stated: source post

Such evasive ad hominem attacks. 

Turncoat stated: source post

He has invalidation arguments against males too, but they tend to be more about their specifics. He needs to invalidate them as a person once he gets weary of the actual argument, which explains why when he'd argue with Spatial that it'd become so personal on both sides instead of about the original topic itself from them both being prone to this in their own ways. 

He has a myriad of excuses for my behavior towards him so that he can resume his mental status quo, and they always come out after he's either become winded or has no actual response left. It's basically an admission that he's given up on that area when that's where he goes, and from it he likely aims to change the discussion to one that'd be easier for him. I could for instance respond to his "pussy whipped" accusation defensively, bringing up topics where I've gone against him without Crow being the focus, bringing up how it tends to be the focus because of how often he targets her from thinking that she's "easy", but then it'd become about that instead for his own convenience. 

Turncoat stated: source post

She is about relevance, Berk is about being a joke. 

Turncoat stated: source post

 

Edvard stated: source post

You calling people here jokes and irrelevant shows unprecedented arrogance, Turn. Hence my pussy remark.

...but it's Berk, if Asta's genuine then she clearly has no idea what's going on, and you're not above this sort of invalidation yourself. At least mine's based on a past history that's formed outside of these arguments with a more-than searchable post history to show why I think these things, yours is instead solely from the fact that I'm arguing against you.

And just like that, you've found a tangent of convenience. If you're going to try this hard to change the argument so that you have a leg to stand on, I'm going to step back from it since you at that point must be arguing for the sake of it solely. It's pointless to continue when you do that.  WW3: You keep arguing with ed which means its not pointless

Edit: Wait... How is arrogance a sign of being whipped by pussy? 

 

Turncoat stated: source post

Your changing of arguments in the name of your own convenience I'm not going to entertain right now. 

Turncoat stated: source post

 

WW3 stated: source post

...but it's Berk

and?               

 We've discussed my views of you to death. Search it up if you've forgotten. 

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Must have missed this.

Turncoat stated: source post

 

Edvard stated: source post

You've also evaded the whole voice request thing when I asked you for it and passed it on to Turncoat.

Evasion, or disinterest? She didn't write one up for anyone, and nothing says that she'd have to â€‹other than your constant insistence to the contrary.

  Only me and Haart asked Crow for that description thingy. Haart got an essay.

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your cornered turncunt

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all tc does is claim stuff without supporting them with any evidence. hes usually way off tew. as he totally misinterpreted asta and i perhaps subconsciously fearing debating with us

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