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Well... A real apology is when the person does care how the other person feels not that they want to earn back lost status. It is not saying they will do anything for forgiveness. It would not  just be that they want the person to give them to right to forget their guilt. In wanting real forgiveness the person must want to improve the future and the situation for all members and especially the one they did wrong.

And real forgiveness is not saying they suffered enough to earn back status. It is not deeming they did enough to earn status. It can be a few things... It is having had enough time to shake of the negative emotions or losses that came. It can be seeing and knowing that the one who did wrong is willing to do better and be more considerate more and improve (This does not mean earning back favor. It means they will try to be better to prevent it from reoccurring).

I am saying...

True. It is not wanting real forgiveness to want to be relieved of the burden of guilt. It is selfish desire for forgiveness. 

True. It is not actually forgiving to see someone suffered enough punishment to earn back their status.

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How about you elaborate on why you think she's dumb, emotional and gullible. Burden of proof is on you.

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You apologized to make yourself feel better about it, not because you meant it.

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Edvard stated: source post

 

"Alena is dumb, emotional and gullible. If I wanted supply from her, trust me I'd get it, even Jim was able to."

And Nini isn't?

No.

 

Systematic stated: source post

"Alena is dumb, emotional and gullible. If I wanted supply from her, trust me I'd get it, even Jim was able to."

And Nini is any better?

lol because these mean anything different, you got me ed

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So you just called me dumb emotional and gullible.

Wait no, you called me as dumb, emotional and gullible as Alena to argue with Ed

Why thank you, Sys. Grow the fuck up? Please?

 

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Yeah, he's not forgiven

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It is impossible for me to take anyone who acts repulsed or outraged by pedophilia, but thinks Jim is "adorable", seriously. Any respect I may have had for them, or anything they say on the matter, goes right out the window.

Why is it that none of you who claim to find it so offensive, and/or who leverage it as an accusation against others, bat an eyelash when it comes to the disgusting cock-roach who posted actual CP? You're all like... "tee-hee Jimmy, you're so adorbs!" It's sickening.

Kinda makes what you say meaningless, and shows that you don't really give a rat's ass about child molestation.

 

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Alterego stated: source post

It is impossible for me to take anyone who acts repulsed or outraged by pedophilia, but thinks Jim is "adorable", seriously. Any respect I may have had for them, or anything they say on the matter, goes right out the window.

Why is it that none of you who claim to find it so offensive, and/or who leverage it as an accusation against others, bat an eyelash when it comes to the disgusting cock-roach who posted actual CP? You're all like... "tee-hee Jimmy, you're so adorbs!" It's sickening.

Kinda makes what you say meaningless, and shows that you don't really give a rat's ass about child molestation.

Fully agree with this. An yeah, none of them care about child molestation, or they wouldn't use it as shitty weapon against the people they dislike.

 

Alena stated:

He's not forgiven.

But Jim is, for this: Alena admits to big brother abuse ;-; le cry

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You're stereotypically 16, and like all of us were at 16. Dont take it personally, im still all of those 3 today

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I was really expecting to be hurt and offended, but since it's coming from you it's somewhat meh :/

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