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do school shootings count as authentic criteria for society?


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earlier i was ranting in my head and (i'll spare you the whole conversation of course). during the rant, i thought:

"with all these school shootings, you would think people would learn not to tread on others"

this got me thinking...

when people do school shootings, it really does shape the behavior of people in a good way. this is not something i made up, people literally do outright say things like "i'm gonna be nice to this person so they don't shoot up the school" it may be a joke, but there is some element of truth to it.

you're being obtuse if you don't think at least some people seriously don't adjust their behavior so the weirdo doesn't pack heat.

since people are doing a conscious change after this event happens, the shootings are drawing attention to a problem (bullying or people being assholes). the way it draws attention to the problem is wrong of course, but it does count as an authentic criteria.

 it's a baffling phenomenon. it's like they're letting the school shooters win, but that's not supposed to happen, but in a way yea it can because it's an authentic criteria...confusion...???

 

discuss

 

P.S. i'm making a part 2 to this thread about what people responding this way does.

 

 

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do school shootings count as authentic criteria for society?

I agree that school shootings do affect people's relations with others. Like the kids at Colombine shooting (that must've been a blast~). And yet, I feel as though people who've never experienced the horror firsthand won't truly learn. 

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it was a mental rant, give me a break on the semantics. guys, please no posts like this lol

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I don't think this will ever have enough effect to even have a statistical note on the number of school shootings.

While some might not pick on someone, cause they might shoot em up, those that do, probably wouldn't bully at all in the first place.

Kids in general ain't smart enough and do not have enough life experience to make these connections. Unless they survived a school shooting that is.
And those kids that do survive and change, they are cowards. I refuse to let some fucktwat change how i act, just cause they went crazy rambo, fuck that guy. He is dead now, i win. If i pick on someone, i will take responsibility instead of being a coward. That means i will not deny that my actions might lead to negative consequences for myself and/or others.
Maybe if the shooters had the same mentality, they wouldn't suck big dick("I refuse to let some fucktwat change how i act").

 

What america should be doing is having gun regulation and fixing the education system. I've seen some crazy shit being done in the education system... like the common core.

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"with all these school shootings"

You realize that anyone dumb enough to believe that they're at any significant risk from a school shooting is also too dumb to realize the benefits of superficial niceness.

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School shootings breed fear. It's more likely to push the popuparity of private and home schooling, add more metal detectors, and add more anti-bullying programs that are going to do as well as things like the D.A.R.E. program. It likely won't really fix anything while both making people paranoid enough to increase the odds of making rash fatal errors and increase the liklihood of copycat behaviors much like how suicide keeps trending.

Theatre shootings aren't too helpful either. 

 

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Gun will reduce shootings a lot, not just in schools, everywhere.

A bomb is way less effective then a gun and so is a melee weapon.

All other 1st world countries, even 2nd world countries, have better gun regulations then USA and they are much better in terms of shootings.

 

The nutters will always exist, because people have inhered flaws and the system is made up of people. You need to reduce their ability to do dmg.

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Daniella stated: source post

 

when people do school shootings, it really does shape the behavior of people in a good way. this is not something i made up, people literally do outright say things like "i'm gonna be nice to this person so they don't shoot up the school" it may be a joke, but there is some element of truth to it.

This is ridiculous, no school kid/teen will treat others nicely because of school shootings. They either like someone or they don't. You find school misfits everywhere in the world, but school misfits with guns? The best thing that can come out of school shootings is gun control, and even that is not being taken care of properly by the US.

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I'm not really a fan of guns either, but gun control isn't really the problem here. It's more about access to it outside of the law that allows for this sort of escalation. This is almost like saying that hit and run assaults are a problem because of automobile regulations instead of the drivers themselves.

If they somehow magically rid of guns to the point of them not being in anyone's hands (even cops or the black market), the next step would be it becoming about bombs. It's suprisingly easy to make things explode if you do a little research. Even an improvised flamethrower's doable with little knowledge or effort. 

It'd be nice to regress back to an age of blades, as technology is both fatal and impersonal enough to make it too easy with the added threat of range, reducing it to a matter of point and click. As is however, the presented answer seems to get closer and closer to "If everyone has a gun, then we can defend ourselves as a group", since metal detectors and increased security's more likely to just make them sneakier, make them try harder. Guns when legally acquired have them track not just the guns, but even the bullets, and despite misfire chances, intoxicated decisions, and a myriad of other problems, a gun typically comes equipt with a safety, and a large group trained in the use of a firearm would demotivate many shooters when compared to being able to fire upon a load of unarmed civilians without worry.

It disappoints me, but I don't see guns going away any time soon, and even if they did go away there'd still be an answer for those that wish to inflict carnage. This is a time where fear is growing, and if the escalation is to stop sonewhere? That'd be where to start. Fear otherwise is quite contagious with dangerous side effects, and copycats of this nature tend to be motivated by how much fear their spree has spread. 

To protect ourselves, we'd need to kill an idea. That's not easy.

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it's not just because of inherent flaws. obviously shitty social engineering results in more mental illness. not saying even the "best" culture will do away with it completely, but reducing the means for the insanity to bleed into "the rest of society" isn't the only method.

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