the first page says there's a fight in toronto on the 17 or the 24.
did it happen already?
TheCrowOnTheFence stated: source post
Xena stated: source post
I'm saying it's not a crime when there is informed consent.Tho technically a minor, I knew what I wanted and there were no victims.
I gave my informed consent.
Informed being the keyword here. I'm sure every fourteen year old thinks they're old enough to make their own decisions. That's why adults convened and made it official that they aren't. : P
Even if you still at this age, believe that as a fourteen-year-old you were in a capable enough mindset to give consent, Dr. Tongue could not have known that. There was no way for him to know you had the faculties to make such a decision. As such, whether you feel like a victim or not, he (in intention) victimized you.
And as Sugar pointed out, you don't make the law. And like Sugar, it concerns me somewhat that we're having to tell you this. : P
Oh please.
I was engaged to be married at 14. If you go back just a couple of generations, in most human societies in the world, it was relatively common for people to be married at 13/14. Are you saying that all of your great-grandparents' generation were all traumatised, or that human mentality or physiology has changed so much in such a short space of time that we don't go through puberty until later anymore?
The ages of 14, 16 or 18 (depending on which country you are in) were just chosen randomly as ages where puberty was ended for most. It's not like as soon as all the kids in that country turn that age they magically become capable adults XD
Even though we live in a society that infantalises young people to a horrifying degree, I can still believe that a 14 yo girl is capable of making her own decisions with regards to what she wants and doesn't want to do.
Sun Puddles stated: source post
So, I guess I wanna ask you, Frey & Edvard; if you found your 14 year old son or daughter having sex with the family friend(your friend that you trusted to be around your children) would you press charges? Even if your child tried to convince you that no, they love them, and that it was consensual?
If I didn't think it was harmful (or if I thought pressing charges would be harmful) I'd probably not do it. The difference in maturity for 14-year-olds can be miles apart.
Oh gosh, I really don’t mean to be rude frey, but what were the details of your engagement? Did you or your parents choose your partner? I'm just curious.
The reason I’m so Gah! at Terra’s “I was not a victim, I totes wanted that sex†is because no, she totes was a victim. When you have these things like family friends- like generally you have a certain amount of trust in those friends. Most Parents I know trust the family friend to not statutorily rape their daughter. “The Doctor†had her mothers trust, lived next door or in the neighborhood, and I really doubt they had sex anywhere near young Terras moms peripheral. Any sex had between young Terra and Pedo-doc had to be out of the house or in his. Or when she was not home. I mean, ONE OF THEM knew this was wrong.
When you Have a man of 34 years of age (20 her senior) looking to have sex with a 14year old, you have ask why he simply can’t go out and get laid with a an adult? The answer is yes he can, there’s enough desperate fucks in Canada that yeah he could. Instead he preferred a child. Not because of all the emotional stability and maturity she had, but because it was easier and probably more his type.
Is he a Pedophile?
Yes(the answer is always yes).
I’d probably be less GAH! About it if it had been a complete stranger (lol fuck no I wouldn’t) because with strangers even teens are like, “um, eww†somewhat. Because they know there is something wrong there. There’s a sense of Stranger danger that most if not all teenagers have. I mean yeah Terra could have been that exception, but theres also that young Terra knew this man, knew this man was okay to be around, knew that mommy trusted him, knew that she could somewhat trust him too.
He abused that trust. He used it to convince a girl to have sex with him. And im willing to bet that he probably reminded her constantly not to tell her mom. It shows, when she tells others to not tell on anything that could lock them up, when she calls molestation a “little indiscretionâ€. It shows when she cares more about the fate of the predator than of the victim. When she says “I don’t care what my mom would have thought.†There was probably some “you’re a big girl/adult†affirmations from him to her too.
So, I guess I wanna ask you, Frey & Edvard; if you found your 14 year old son or daughter having sex with the family friend(your friend that you trusted to be around your children) would you press charges? Even if your child tried to convince you that no, they love them, and that it was consensual?
Freyja stated: source post
TheCrowOnTheFence stated: source post
Xena stated: source post
I'm saying it's not a crime when there is informed consent.Tho technically a minor, I knew what I wanted and there were no victims.
I gave my informed consent.
Informed being the keyword here. I'm sure every fourteen year old thinks they're old enough to make their own decisions. That's why adults convened and made it official that they aren't. : P
Even if you still at this age, believe that as a fourteen-year-old you were in a capable enough mindset to give consent, Dr. Tongue could not have known that. There was no way for him to know you had the faculties to make such a decision. As such, whether you feel like a victim or not, he (in intention) victimized you.
And as Sugar pointed out, you don't make the law. And like Sugar, it concerns me somewhat that we're having to tell you this. : P
Oh please.
I was engaged to be married at 14. If you go back just a couple of generations, in most human societies in the world, it was relatively common for people to be married at 13/14. Are you saying that all of your great-grandparents' generation were all traumatised, or that human mentality or physiology has changed so much in such a short space of time that we don't go through puberty until later anymore?
The ages of 14, 16 or 18 (depending on which country you are in) were just chosen randomly as ages where puberty was ended for most. It's not like as soon as all the kids in that country turn that age they magically become capable adults XD
Even though we live in a society that infantalises young people to a horrifying degree, I can still believe that a 14 yo girl is capable of making her own decisions with regards to what she wants and doesn't want to do.
I never said Xena was traumatized, nor that a 14-year-old girl is incapable of such decision making. Please read, Freyja.