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The Self Fulfilling Prophecy


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So we have Turncoat who is scared that Luna is going to act up and change this place/violate its rules, so he accepts the mod to a potentially new SC forum on KF. Luna thinks that considering all the time and effort spent on SC, Turn's attitude is a betrayal, so she decides to... act up/violate some rules and punish Turncoat with demodding/banning. Luna also plans on not making any other changes to the rules or name of this place.

If Luna bans TC, there will be a split in the community, a lot of drama, and my prediction is that the KF SC section will slowly dissolve as the larger bulk of users will stay here.

If Luna is generous and doesn't ban TC, and TC keeps KF modship, everything will stay as it is, no one will migrate.

If TC is generous and renounces KF modship, and Luna doesn't ban TC, everything will stay as it is, no one will migrate.

So yeah, looking at the facts, I suggest that the best course of action for everyone is TC renouncing the modship on KF and not setting in motion the self fulfilling prophecy...

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I already said I was willing to do both if given the option. When she tried to make me "pick sides", I refused and said that I represent the users here as opposed to her agenda solely.

This is on her, not me.

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I chose Turncoat like a year ago. I made him mod, and I never once told him what to do. I never questioned his moderation. I had complete faith in him, and I always took his side on SC, and I, for the most part, even let him handle mod powers (meaning I don't use them)

Lately I have made a couple bans due to being Doxxed, and memebrs of KF are taking advantage of that to say I am a bad admin (which I might be, thats why I let TC mod), and leadership of KF has decided to troll me by attempting to get members of SC to migrate to KF.

When they attempted this, Turncoat, being what I find to be disloyal encouraged KF staff to make the new SC KF subsection (the alternative), and he's even spoke about considering a roll as moderator there.

I know Turncoat is respected here, after all I made him mod for that reason, but TC is taking steps lately that is pushing our members to leave this place, and go to another. I don't think that will happen, but I am hurt that someone i've had so much loyalty to is so quick to betray this community, and take steps to migrate the members here away from this place.

I never expected this from Turncoat, and I am unsure how to handle it

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Damage is already done, regardless of what TC chooses.

And any further damage would be on Luna if she bans TC.

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Luna, the error is simple. You can't tell TC what to do and threaten with banning at the same time. He can choose whatever he wants. BUT, if you ban him, some will leave because of that. 

I see Luna's side of it, but assumption of loyalty based on what precisely? Does she pay him? Made him a better offer? No.

Something for Nothing ? Bad deal for TC.

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I can't help but see Luna's side in all this too, though. I mean I get why she's upset that after all the effort/care/money she put into the community there's talk about leaving it to some random strangers we've only known for one week.

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Or they could just do like many are doing already and attend both. Why are we expected to only attend one forum? I've been attending multiple for a while now.

This is about Luna not liking the Kiwis and wanting a war of sorts as opposed to anything about SC or me specifically, and I refuse to pick a side when I can be friendly with both.

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There already is a "split" , TC's solution is fair and reasonable.

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I see no split and no reason for a split, after this episode. We've had similar ones before.

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Saying "both" is encouraging a split already. That's bad for the community, even if you choose to ignore Luna's personal issues with the matter.

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