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Guilt and Remorse


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Questions for those of you who believe you lack guilt and remorse:

- What have you done that the average person might feel guilt and remorse over, but you didn't?

- Do you ever do things for your own personal benefit/amusement that could be described as cruel and/or malicious? If yes, what were they?


Questions for those of you who can feel guilt and remorse:

- What are some of the things you did that made you feel guilty and remorseful?

- What causes you to feel guilt and remorse?


A question for everyone:

- Do you think the ability to feel guilt and remorse is more of a hindrance or a benefit to humanity?

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tl;dr almost fell asleep

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Questions for those of you who believe you lack guilt and remorse:

many a thing my child. mostly sadistic urges being carried out. if it felt good, why would i be sorry?

teach people lessons mostly.


Questions for those of you who can feel guilt and remorse:

when i realized later on that i was wrang

when i am in the wrang


A question for everyone:

both depending on circumstances. it can be a drawback or have an important function

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What have you done that the average person might feel guilt and remorse over, but you didn't?

I've most likely said and done a lot that the average person would feel guilt and remorse over that I wouldn't feel, but I'll only speak of a couple that are most significant to me in my memory. Odd how such events that seem so unremarkable would stick around in my mind so vividly.

When I was very young, probably no older then twelve years old, I did something so terrible to upset my mother that she became very ill and bedridden for days. I can't even remember what exactly it was that I did that was so terrible to her, perhaps because it was never of any significance to me at the time. When she confronted me about it I couldn't help but smile because her face was contorted in such a funny way by her agony. Then I started laughing uncontrollably when she kept asking me repeatedly "Why are you smiling?"

More recently a friend of mine came to me crying and told me her boyfriend had committed suicide, and I said in reply something along the lines of "I could care less, you'll get over it." I said this to her completely nonchalantly, of course. Indifference is not the same as malice.

Do you ever do things for your own personal benefit/amusement that could be described as cruel and/or malicious? If yes, what were they?

Numerous things, but I won't bore you with the details. Mostly what I do to manipulate is what I believe to be necessary to maintain the lifestyle I like to live, not necessarily simply for the sake of pleasure derived from nefarious deeds done to others. Through manipulation other people become my tools, and those tools are an extension of my will, and through my will is my power.

Do you think the ability to feel guilt and remorse is more of a hindrance or a benefit to humanity?

On the positive side, guilt is meant to be a catalyst for change. The guilt and remorse someone experiences should spur them into taking action that will change their life and the lives of others for the better.

On the negative side, guilt may induce depression, anger, and hopelessness. Someone who experiences guilt and remorse may act out in destructive ways, harming themselves or others because they feel powerless due to their extreme negative emotions.

Sociopaths, or those who would believe they do not feel guilt and remorse might feel regret in a sense that they still observe cause and effect like any rational human being: if this event causes this undesirable effect, then in the future I might wish to pursue a different course of action to achieve a more desirable outcome. In the end though, is feeling guilt a hindrance or a benefit to the greater of humanity? I'm not absolutely sure of the answer. I prefer to perceive my actions as experiments, not as mistakes if they go awry. I analyze the outcome of what I have done, and what exactly I did to make it not turn out the way I would've preferred it to be. Then I move on being more well informed, with no emotional strings attached. I pity people who can't simply see the flaws in their actions and quickly move on with life, and allow their guilt to harm themselves unproductively because they failed to make it be the necessary catalyst for change.

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"What causes you to feel guilt and remorse?"

Letting harm or misfortune come to the ones I value as a consequence of my own failure. I also get very strong feelings of guilt/remorse when I let myself down. Though out of the two, the first example invokes the biggest reaction.

"What are some of the things you did that made you feel guilty and remorseful?"

More often than not it's "what didn't I do?" that elicits those feelings. Subconsciously I always tell myself more could've been done, a good example of a scenario where I'd feel guilty is one of my siblings suffering from the same mistake I did and I didn't lend advice.

 "Do you think the ability to feel guilt and remorse is more of a hindrance or a benefit to humanity?"

Without guilt and remorse we wouldn't have made it out of the dark ages.

 

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Q:- What have you done that the average person might feel guilt and remorse over, but you didn't?

A: I have been married for over ten years. Since then I have slept with several of my spouses best friends, coworkers, and other acquaintances. I generally develop a relationship with another until they admit they are in love or that they want me to leave my spouse. There have been times that my spouse has been in the same room as three other women that have confessed to being in love with me. I have never been caught. I don't feel guilty, in fact I wish I could brag about it. Maybe that's why I'm here. 

Q: - Do you ever do things for your own personal benefit/amusement that could be described as cruel and/or malicious? If yes, what were they?

A: I sometimes find people I don't like or care for and find ways to make them turn on each other or receive punishment or exposure for something that they did not have any part of.

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"teach people lessons mostly."
So generally you only act upon your sadistic urges when they crossed you first?  Or is it that you often only have such urges after having been crossed?

exclusively if they have crossed me first, i get those urges. but from my perspective.

 

"when i realized later on that i was wrang"
Would you describe that more as guilt or shame?

guilt, i think. if i really fucked up i might do something nice to make it up to them, depends who they are.

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Do you ever do things for your own personal benefit/amusement that could be described as cruel and/or malicious? If yes, what were they?

"Numerous things, but I won't bore you with the details."

I wouldn't have asked the question if I didn't want the details, so feel free to bore me with them.

 

I will answers these questions as well later.

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"exclusively if they have crossed me first, i get those urges. but from my perspective."

Have you ever tried acting sadistically towards someone who has done you no wrong?  I'd be curious to know how that would feel for you.  I'm unsure about my own sadistic tendencies, and am trying to fill in the blanks through experimentation and discussion.

 

"guilt, i think. if i really fucked up i might do something nice to make it up to them, depends who they are."

Would who they are dictate whether you'd feel guilt at all?  Or would you feel guilt regardless, but only be compelled to make amends if they were someone that mattered to you?  And when you do try to make amends, do you think you're doing it for them, or is it really meant to make yourself feel better or repair your damaged reputation?

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Whenever I'm in the mood to do so, I might. At that moment I wasn't, as listing everything out seemed too tedious for me. I was more interested in answering the first and third questions fully, and felt that what I wrote for the second one was sufficient.

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