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From what I've gathered, the opinion seems rather split about it.

In one hand, there's people that believe it's the Nabble way to allow that sort of thing, and I am inclined to agree, but then again I also reflect the bias of having been there and it's not really my choice.

In the other hand, it's likely to make regulars leave if they're targeted, but that's always been the risk. Even the ones outing people can potentially be outed themselves.

Currently it's being handled from the looks of it as a "remove on request" sort of deal, but I'd like to see how the forum as a whole feels about it instead of leaving it vague. I can't promise a change in policy, but discussing it in general could potentially do so, if not at least have everyone on the website be on the same page.

So, thoughts?

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I believe it's detrimental to the site. However, I understand the flip-side of that, that it's part of the ideology that the site is based upon.

As WW2 noted, doxing does put pressure on the owner of a site (in this case, Luna) who is against it. As she created this site and pays for it, and we are all using it for free, I don't feel it should be a big deal to respect the onus it puts upon her. Find another venue for it if you want to do it. If you don't like how she wants her own web site to operate, then leave.

My opinion on this matter is not very strong, but those are my initial thoughts.

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no, if someone gets outed its the responsibility of the owner of the site, of the person who does the outing and the person who got outed.

 

when you out people, you need to understand this and not be a lil bitch about it. of course you may attempt to get away with it, but once is obvious who did it, he shouldn't act like a fuck up.

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Great idea to keep the newbies wrapped in their warm blankets right?

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Everything's a risk, if people don't want to be outed they shouldn't leave shit to be outed about, if they do it's their responsibility

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If someone really wants to out someone it can be done without being posted openly here (even within the site itself through PMs), but I'd also imagine a Terms of Use sort of deal could help Luna escape liability and keep things as they once were.

"i liked the compromise where the thread stays until its reported by the person being outed and later deleted."
That is true too, plus there is still archiving it with any source of website caching. Still though, what if it reports someone who's left the forum, as we saw done in this topic? It's kind of a grey area.

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It's not that she's worried about liability (at least as far as I know), it's that she doesn't like people getting harmed in real life because of things happening on her site.

Edit: I can see by the other thread that liability is also an issue, which a ToS may or may not remedy. But again, she doesn't want people getting harmed in real life through her site, and I don't see why that's an issue. As you've pointed out, there are several ways of outing people that don't involve how it's conventionally done here.

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"That being said, I think that someone should have the ability to delete their own account and wipe themselves from the forum, which is currently not allowed, which I find hypocritical in ways when considering the "remove on request rule" of personal information."
I don't see how that's entirely connected, plus the potential to edit their own posts still remains if they really care that much about it (as seen with the period posts, and a few cases of the letter a I've found). Part of what I enjoy about the place is it's paper trail, and deleting entire accounts worth of posts would render the forum a swiss cheese inspired mess.

Even when Nabble had the deletion option it kept the original post within it's search function as an improvise-able workaround (although Way Back Machine could potentially do the same thing here I guess).

"I can't remove my own posts but you and luna can without even consulting me (albeit in the name of terror or spam)."
Preferably nothing would ever have to be removed, but that's coming from someone who enjoys reading this place's history.

"Instead of some undefined authoritarian style administration that changes by the day to suit to people with the power or the friends of those people and against anyone who disagrees with anything they say."
I agree with the notion that it ought to be standardized instead of undefined, but the "remove on request" for doxing bit seems to be the case at the moment even for those who could be disliked by those "in authority".

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This place is going to end up like a huge dysfunctional family. Lol, is this sociopaths doxing other sociopaths? Insanity, I think even a normal person with an okay-decent life would want to kill after being humilated like that. And proxies aren't going to hide you forever.

I'M WATCHING YOU. :)

I think myself to be unimportant and maybe a bit annoying on this site. But I am here, in this dangerous pit and what was just said makes this sound easy so I was wondering if I should fear just visiting this site?

I have to say you people are a real source of insanity in my life, why is it like social execution to be found "roaming" this place irl?

I visit to study, I mean, prey.

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i liked the compromise where the thread stays until its reported by the person being outed and later deleted.
see its important that the person who is being outed knows, thats always the idea.

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