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This reminds me of the concept about "killing the buddha." Whatever you find that is worshipped or idolized as absolute truth, you kill off that attachment and let go. So you allow greater truth to reveal itself, only after ceasing to strive.

I think everyone is participating in this growth process, in one form or another. Breaking out of a chrysalis, developing wings, and flying free.

Some differences are whether (a) you see the process as positive the whole time or if there is fear or unforgiveness involved, that you have to discredit or demonize something as "bad or wrong" in order to shift from one stage to another (b) if you see the process as ADDING to the knowledge or experience you already have

When religious preachers use similar methods as salespeople, selling you an idea because they find a problem you fear you cannot solve, and this is the solution; you can see the difference between people who (a) make you fear things as bad or invoking punishment out of unforgiveness, and so applying the solution is "conditional" (b) or accepting people and the past as they are, and adding knowledge or understanding that helps improve and deal with all these things WITHOUT demonizing anything out of fear or negative reaction

If you liberate people speaking truth with love and compassion/wisdom, it doesn't matter what system you use but the spirit in how you apply it.

I find it fascinating that people follow this same process.  Where the difference is if people are motivated by fear/unforgiveness of whatever they are preaching against, or motivated by love of truth and inclusion of all things seen as natural.

by Turncoat

by AsymmetricalCoupling

 

by SensitiveSoul

I enjoy creating peace and consensus. That is harder than being destructive. 

 And cannot be achieved without some level of destruction. 

 

Thanks Turncoat! That video really says it all about this mentality.

I just mentioned the difference between the "abundance mentality" (where positive investments multiply, what comes around goes around) vs. the "scarcity mentality" which is spelled out here.

What Buddha said about the middle way, was neither to become too attached to "extreme pleasure" or "extreme suffering." So you could also say for people with a phobia about overeating who starve themselves out of guilt; that means others overeat with no guilt and become morbidly obese! It can go both ways!

Huh, didn't expect something from Xavier: Renegade Angel to be taken seriously.

I'm delighted to have you respond to my post.

I abhore the idolization of objects, or people.

Objects are to be used in an appropriate manner and people are to be loved in a conscientous one.

I've noticed that "reformation" came to me naturally throughout my life, when all other options ceased to be an option.

Desperation breeds the best solutions.

I can only add to myself through that process and understand it's positive developmental nature.

It is also my nature to hunt demons in whatever manner they appear, in order to change them into what appears humanizing.

Despite my hate of what people desire at the cost of that which makes them separate from all perfection, I still love humanity.

 RE: Desperation breeds the best solutions

Yes and no. Some acts of desperation end up being twisted cries for help, so indirectly they lead to better solutions, but they themselves are not helpful acts.

I've always joked that "necessity may be the mother of invention but laziness is the father." Many things are invented because it was too much work to do things the old way, and that applies to both good and bad shortcuts.

I believe in the pleasure/pain principle guiding the human conscience by binary logic, yes or no, true or false. And what screws up and skews the logic is where there is (a) fear of the unknown (b) fear of change or loss of control to some external influence or authority (c) fear of conflict or confrontation. If people are more afraid of the stress of change, or fear of unknown consequences, they will choose to stick with things that are still hurting them or causing suffering as the lesser of the evils. So it messes up the process of seeking peace and freedom where people cling to things that keep them feeling secure at the time. Another friend of mind calls it fear/stress/anxiety which bias people's decisions in life. The more people overcome these fears, then we make more objective choices.

I also see people going through different stages of grief, including anger denial projection, so that is part of the natural process, while it skews how we respond. It seems pointless to judge people for where we are naturally, but we can still assess and judge if our judgment is off, consistent or biased. So yes, we can still love humanity while totally loathing this habit of mutually projecting blame externally, idolizing some things to divine levels while demonizing and condemning others to hell, and wondering why the world is such a mess.

How would you describe the demons that you try to eliminate or transform? Are they related to internal mechanisms, or relationships between people?

Note: I have friends who can actually see demonic energy and can remove these from people through spiritual healing. I tend to focus on the conscious mind and memories, which these demonic obsessions attach to, and help id and overcome those, but I leave it to others to deal with the actual demons. Those things scare me. I just deal with the conscious thoughts that people can help.

ps do we need to start a new thread? let me know, and I'll delete this here

I also write political satires that have a serious msg, so I am used to analyzing comedy and the biases people are making fun of. I will look up his stuff, thanks!

One of my writer friends said that all humor was based on making fun of someone's pain or shame. I tend to make fun of conflicts people are afraid of, and spoof both sides to show how ridiculous they sound to each other.

Do you like dark humor? Like Anthony Jeselnik. Wasn't there a thread for intelligent humor or did that disappear with the old forum?

I thought it was funny when people were taking that "What Does the Fox Say" dance seriously and criticizing how stupid it was, and totally missing the whole point it was spoofing stupid dance music. Sorry, but that made it even funnier.

My brother and I used to make up stupid things that weren't funny, just to irritate our sister; and then laugh that she saw no humor in it, where that became the joke. Of all the siblings, that brother was the one who ended up with the worst conflict with social disorder. Somehow I was able to use humorous and serious writing to work out my differences I had with society; being able to make fun of these conflicts.

So as for the OP: humor is one way I found to bring out these differences in a safe way, where it encourages creative response while providing stress relief.

If you make people laugh, at the problems you are pointing out to them, do they really care if you are sociopathic or empathetic or what. If your motives are manipulative or compassionate out of concern for social justice.

Some acts of desperation end up being twisted cries for help, so
indirectly they lead to better solutions, but they themselves are not
helpful acts.

That depends upon where the desperation stems from.

I believe in the pleasure/pain principle guiding the human conscience by
binary logic, yes or no, true or false. And what screws up and skews
the logic is where there is (a) fear of the unknown (b) fear of change
or loss of control to some external influence or authority (c) fear of
conflict or confrontation. If people are more afraid of the stress of
change, or fear of unknown consequences, they will choose to stick with
things that are still hurting them or causing suffering as the lesser of
the evils. So it messes up the process of seeking peace and freedom
where people cling to things that keep them feeling secure at the time.
Another friend of mind calls it fear/stress/anxiety which bias people's
decisions in life. The more people overcome these fears, then we make
more objective choices.

Passion inescapably rules reason. The properly desired results can only be achieved, when the means agree with your perception.

I also see people going through different stages of grief, including
anger denial projection, so that is part of the natural process, while
it skews how we respond. It seems pointless to judge people for where we
are naturally, but we can still assess and judge if our judgment is
off, consistent or biased. So yes, we can still love humanity while
totally loathing this habit of mutually projecting blame externally,
idolizing some things to divine levels while demonizing and condemning
others to hell, and wondering why the world is such a mess.

The world is in the state it is, because people rely on flawed judgement when they perceive too much or are limited in their perception. The middle road never persists long enough to allow for a better judgement.

How would you describe the demons that you try to eliminate or
transform? Are they related to internal mechanisms, or relationships
between people?

Internal mechanisms. I shape my armor by testing it with the only reliable weapon I know. The truth. All real change comes from within, yet must be influenced by real life experiences.

And I would be delighted for you to start a new thread we can overwhelm with our gentle diatribes.