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by Turncoat

"Obviously he'd have to weaken me first to fight me, lol. God forbid he'd allow me the strength to kick his weak ass all over the arena."
He'd still win

Oh sure, he could enter the arena with a gun in his belt and shoot me if he thinks he's going to lose the fight.

He'd do that too, being the pussy he is.

 

Most people in power play unfairly for a reason.

I'm aware of that, but we're not talking about paper pushers who only fight with words, a pen and the power of money. This is about physical fighting.

It's different.

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"Oh sure, he could enter the arena with a gun in his belt and shoot me if he thinks he's going to lose the fight."
He needs to make a show out of it. You'd become a part of the propaganda machine if you were too obvious. Pulling an Indiana Jones on you completely defeats the point, since it's not about winning, it's about appearances. It'd be unfair odds, but they'd be shrouded instead of blatant.

"I'm aware of that, but we're not talking about paper pushers who only fight with words, a pen and the power of money. This is about physical fighting."
Actually, it's about staging fights in the name of pushing a framework. It's not about honor, it's about results.

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to be honest i wuld not be a leader at all leaders get shanked all the time

"I'm not good with rules, so I'd have an advisor who can sort all that shit out. I'll just look at it once it's complete and make any changes if need be. Anyone who breaks them will be punished a certain way or publicly executed, depending on the crime committed."

-TK

i wuld find some 1 like tk & be their advisor when they got shanked i wuld be the advisor for the new boss as well

 

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"So, now you want other men fighting your battles for you while you sit safely in the stand and watch?"

by Systematic

After my image is respected and feared I'd settle down and watch my justiciars carry out the rest of the gladiator games for my amusement, make it a religious event where everyone would want a chance to have the glory of battle. Before the gladiator defeats the other he must have my approval, the classic thumbs up or thumbs down will work. Criminals will be dealt with in the gladiator arena as well. I'll be seen as the wielder of life and death, a godlike religious figure to my people that controls life itself. I'll raise my children, appoint them into office, they'll carry out my image to keep their deity status and wealth.

It was a part of the plan initially. Did you not read it all before you began making assumptions?

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"How much would you aim to control the media around you?"

Considering they don't have internet or television in this post apocalyptic scenario, my gladiator games would be the only source of entertainment. I would be the media, I wouldn't have to control it if my performance in the arena is superb.

"Even with a scout, don't you worry about strong communication paired with personal identity and freedom forming a risk? What if the one you send out to scout is the one devious enough to arrange a mutiny?"

Of course, but as history has shown there's no real way to stop it completely from happening. It's why i want them to see me as a mentor and why I take the time to train them personally. It also helps that this religion I'm running is very strong on order and honor. Taking apt preventative steps is really all you can do.

"What if they splinter off into their own variant of your philosophy, one with a Justicar using it to justify a mutiny, a civil war?"

This is where the real trouble arises. I wouldn't cause bloodshed, it would only weaken my image. The only viable option would be to challenge this justiciar in the arena fairly. It runs the risk of me dying but not more so than fighting a civil war and when I win it'll instantly relate the fallen justiciar to the criminals that also met their ends in the arena. Silencing any of their sympathizers while bolstering discipline in my ranks and increasing my religious influence greatly amongst the common people. 

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"I would be the media, I wouldn't have to control it if my performance on in the arena is superb."
What about books?

"Of course, but as history has shown there's no real way to stop it completely from happening."
I don't believe that. I honestly think it'd take inhumane tactics to accomplish it, but it could be done.

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How much would you aim to control the media around you?

Even with a scout, don't you worry about strong communication paired with personal identity and freedom forming a risk? What if they splinter off into their own variant of your philosophy, one with a Justicar using it to justify a mutiny, a civil war?

What if the one you send out to scout is the one devious enough to arrange a mutiny?

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by Systematic

I'll feel like a god when I'll have men willing to kill others for my entertainment under the guise of religious honor.

So, now you want other men fighting your battles for you while you sit safely in the stand and watch?

You're looking weaker and more cowardice by the moment...

 

Isn't being inscribed in the annals of world history not the ultimate ego stroke? You act as if you wouldn't want to be seen as a god.

I don't give a fuck about being in the annals of world history. The only thing that matters to me is my pleasure while I'm alive to enjoy it. I'm not gonna give two shits if people remember me or not when I'm dead.

Being a god, feeling like a god, is an illusion. It's just a powerful short-term illusion and nothing more. To believe in it long-term is a delusion.

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"What about books?"

Let's hope this apocalypse destroyed them all, I can see the bible being a huge threat. I'd never openly criticize books, it would instantly turn away the more useful members of this community. It'll be task like this I'll appoint to my more observant justiciar having him get a detailed report of what books come in from scavenging missions.

"I don't believe that. I honestly think it'd take inhumane tactics to accomplish it."

We already beat people who oppose our will to death in an arena. If not pain, public humiliation in an honor based society should be more than enough.

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by Systematic

Do you think anyone would object to me not feeding enemies that are meant to die within the week? 

Rule number 14: There will be no wasting perfect food. All enemies will be spit roasted on capture, following a quick purification process in the communes saunas. Water and the communes purification herbals and oils are their only food till death.

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