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So currently there are probably billions of dollars pumping into medical institutions that are attempting to heal people from serious life threatening illnesses.

We've put people on the moon in shorter periods of time.

Why do you suppose that major illness are not being cured?

Is it a broken system, a lack of knowledge, or perhaps these sicknesses and illness are something the human race has no capacity to defeat.

 

Your choice, and if you think it is another option, please, go right ahead.

 

 

I've got another one for you. What if, medical information or scientific studies, rather if ever get mentioned on a fundraising and support website. Check for yourself.

 

For example, these claims and studies.

http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancercauses/othercarcinogens/athome/antiperspirants-and-breast-cancer-risk

There are no strong epidemiologic studies in the medical literature that link breast cancer risk and antiperspirant use, and very little scientific evidence to support this claim.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16045991

Results reported here demonstrate that aluminium in the form of aluminium chloride or aluminium chlorhydrate can interfere with the function of oestrogen receptors of MCF7 human breast cancer cells both in terms of ligand binding and in terms of oestrogen-regulated reporter gene expression. 

Lung Cancer Mortality in Aluminum Reduction Plant Workers.

http://journals.lww.com/joem/Abstract/1979/05000/Lung_Cancer_Mortality_in_Aluminum_Reduction_Plant.6.aspx

There was a definite dose-response relationship between lung cancer mortality and tar-years and years of exposure. The standardized mortality ratio for persons exposed for more than 21 years to the higher levels of tars was 2.3 times that of persons not exposed to tars. Although smoking may still be a factor, the evidence suggests that the increased risk of lung cancer is related to employment in definite tar-exposed occupations.

http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/features/antiperspirant-facts-safety

According to the authors of these studies, most breast cancers develop in the upper outer part of the breast -- the area closest to the armpit, which is where antiperspirants are applied. The studies suggest that chemicals in antiperspirants, including aluminum, are absorbed into the skin, particularly when the skin is nicked during shaving. These studies claim that those chemicals may then interact with DNA and lead to cancerous changes in cells, or interfere with the action of the female hormone estrogen, which is known to influence the growth of breast cancer cells.

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Why do you suppose that major illness are not being cured?

They are, we create vaccines for cancer and have already cured all the easily curable ones. It is a question of allocation of resources, if this Ebola outbreak had not gotten media attention Ebola would never have been worked on(or should have IMO). 

The system works, although might be slowed by bureaucracy in many steps, and may be plagued  by the commercialization of healthcare in the US. Otherwise I like the capital allocation system in R&D healthcare.

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HPV vaccines help prevent cancer formation. The work on nano cells targeting cancer looks promising and so does "smart viruses" (scientific American ran a story on that). 

 

What you have to ask yourself is what would make it faster, do you think some gigantic government body should allocate money to curing what they think is important (by definition a less effective allocation) perhaps leading to more lives saved.

Perhaps you want less regulation on drug testing when they do trials perhaps endangering people who take the drug later on.

 

All of this is a balancing act if you think you can do it better or know how, be specific. 

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"Why do you suppose that major illness are not being cured?"
I can't imagine it being an easy task, but I'm guessing that's what you're implying they want me to think.

"Is it a broken system, a lack of knowledge, or perhaps these sicknesses and illness are something the human race has no capacity to defeat."
Some cures have been found, why can't other ones be found eventually?

"What if, medical information or scientific studies, rather if ever get mentioned on a fundraising and support website."
I'm trying, I really am, but I really can't understand what this means. I'm assuming it's not "What if medical information or scientific studies ever get mentioned on a fundraising/support website?"

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Hmmmnnn... I have a father who got caner. Do you know where he worked? In a tin finishing plant. Aluminum.

 

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/08/070831210302.htm

A new study has identified a regionally-specific distribution of aluminum in breast tissue which may have implications for the cause of breast cancer. Scientists have found that the aluminum content of breast tissue and breast tissue fat was significantly higher in the outer regions of the breast, in close proximity to the area where there would be the highest density of antiperspirant.

 

http://www.stonybrookphysicians.com/center/breast-care-center-pi-breast-lumps.asp

Commonly developing from the mammary glands or ducts, such malignant lumps generally (about 50 percent) appear in the upper, outer quadrant of the breast, extending into the armpit, where tissue is thicker than elsewhere.

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by Azula

The system works

 

I don't care if people work. I care whether or not people work effectively.

 

by Azula

They are, we create vaccines for cancer and have already cured all the easily curable ones. 

Oh, is that true? 

 

 

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/leading-causes-of-death.htm

Heart disease: 596,577
Cancer: 576,691
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 142,943
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 128,932
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 126,438

 

 

Basically what I am saying, is I have a disease which is slowly killing me, I know exactly what is wrong with me, and nobody believes me at all, and nobody seems to have the slightest idea of how to cure it except people from ancient times.

No lie. My condition is not critical, however it is extremely upsetting to me to think that hundred of thousands of people have the same or similar issues as I do, and collectively the medical industry cannot figure it out, yet here I am, and I've figured my issues. My issue is not aluminum and breast cancer btw. It is something less, less, less, life threatening.

 

 

Think of things this way. I was monitoring my heart beat before I contracted said disease. It was consistently 60 beats per minute. It is now consistently 80 beats per minute. My heart is working harder. What does a doctor say to something like that? That it's "normal".

 

Well fuck that, because I am starting to think that every fucking person on the planet is totally incompetent.

 

If I get my heart rate back down to 60 by the end of next year, you can all go fuck yourselves.

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Well, I will mention that in some cases, I do believe they share their cures, however money is probably the deciding factor as to why cures to not proliferate.

Example. Aluminum is a possible risk for breast cancer. So... instead of saying flat out. Hey, scientists are finding evidence that may link heavy exposure to aluminum with breast malfunction, however it is not proven, so, don't use the stuff if that concerns you.

 

If I had a billion dollars and breast cancer. I'm unsure what I would do with the money. Perhaps I'd invent some mist spray that sucks bacteria out of the air by reducing the moisture content of the air. Maybe that would piss people off enough? For sure though, I'd have to rename the aluminum compound to something else, so it flys under the radar for a years or something. Most certainly, I'd add in some opium derivatives, or some sort of crack cocaine synthetic extract or something so people would die for the stuff.

Either that, or I could dump all the money into cancer care and treatment for tax breaks or something.

Personally I think the air freshener idea is better one.

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No... ignorantly defending of the orthodoxy is not going to get you anywhere with me.

Whatever you do Azula, please stay the fuck out of school.

 

I dunno, what do you think?

http://www.paulingtherapy.com/

Linus Pauling's specific therapy for cardiovascular and heart diseases are high dosages of two essential nutrients; vitamin C and the amino acid lysine.
Vitamin C is required to strengthen arteries so that the body does not try to patch arteries with "plaster casts" (atherosclerosis).

Lysine is an Lp(a) binding inhibitor, meaning at sufficient dosage it can reverse the plaster cast build-up (atherosclerotic plaques.) Lp(a) is the sticky form of LDL cholesterol that Pauling/Rath identified as the primary risk factor.

 

Double Nobel prize.

So. I will leave things at that.

 

There is a Slight Problem . . .

The reason your doctor has never heard about this from trusted sources is because this low-cost therapy would bankrupt every major hospital in the USA.

"Did you know that bypass surgery (in which a blocked coronary artery is replaced by a clean artery obtained from the thigh) is one of the biggest growth industries in the United States? Would it surprise you to learn that this procedure brings in more money to metropolitan hospitals than does any other type of care? In many cases bypass surgery accounts for 30 to 40 percent of a hospital's total income." - Stephen Cherniske (DHEA Breakthrough, 1996)

 

In the meantime, I've got a bag of this, so I think it's time to give it a go.

http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supplements/ingredientmono-1018-n-acetyl%20cysteine.aspx?activeingredientid=1018&activeingredientname=n-acetyl%20cysteine

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That is why they don't share their cures.

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They discover good potential for cures every now and then. But if the materials cannot be patented and turn big profits for the pharmaceutical industry, then they will cease developing the solution.

This is business before care. It's always more profitable to maintain illness rather then curing it.

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