Sociopath Community

by Girl_automatic_mentality3

apparently I don't know how I'm effecting people. It kinda sucks though...Not being able to tell how u effect people or how they actually percieve u, correctly.

I don't imagine you're capable of successfully manipulating people if you lack cognitive empathy as much as you apparently seem to. Cognitive empathy is what allows us (as sociopaths/psychopaths) to recognize other people's emotions and manipulate them.

I am completely justified in everything I do.

If you lack guilt it is very likely for this reason (mentioned above). When people justify their actions, they do it to avoid feeling guilt. Which means that they/you are capable of feeling it.

Sociopaths and psychopaths don't need to justify their actions in order to avoid feeling guilt. I don't justify mine because there is no need to. I don't see anything I do as wrong.

People's opinions are so mean about ASP. It's like they hate us for not having emotion and not showing we agree with everything they say or do.

They are the selfish ones,lol

There is nothing that indicates people with AsPD are completely emotionless. Depression and anxiety disorders can co-exist with AsPD, as can a few others.

The problem I have with this thread is the fact that there isn't a single thing here that describes a sociopath/psychopath. It describes an asshole. There are millions of sociopaths out in the world who live completely normal lives completely aware of their differences to "normal" society, but unaware as to why they feel this way. Just because you decide to be an asshole doesn't make you a sociopath, and just because you're a sociopath doesn't mean you have to act like an asshole.

The problem with forums like this is that it attracts people who want an excuse to be a dick. If you want to know whether or not you're a sociopath, go to a psychologist. And I can tell you right now - if you do go, you're not a sociopath. 

In a psychologist's line of work, we deal with a lot of "crazies", if you will. Real scum of the earth. Forums like these are hilarious, in which a bunch of kids come together and compare how fucked up they are, under the mask and promise of anonymity. If we were to take away that mask, I'd be willing to bet most of them would be fairly normal on the bell curve of sanity.

Personality disorders run much, much deeper than a simple checklist. Someone can do none of these things but still be a sociopath. And someone can do all of these things and have no personality disorder whatsoever. And,  more often than not, a sociopath would do some of these things, and not realize that he's doing it - and would deny it incessantly if approached about it.

live a parasitic lifestyle (by defrauding the government and/or living off other people)?...

I'm on disability, if that counts as parasitic or defrauding the govt...i dunno

have trouble maintaining a steady job (due to irresponsibility and/or poor behavioral controls)?...

i always maintained steady employment up until 2010

have trouble staying out of debt?...

i think my credit score is below zero

always blame others when things go wrong?...

duh, it IS everyone elses fault

have relationship problems (due to an inability and lack of desire to
emotionally connect with others, and other reasons that relate to
sociopathy)?...

until the last year or so, definitely

have poor behavioral controls (anger issues/highly reactive)?

i'm on soooooo many meds to keep the anger under control

All that being said I am not, nor have I ever claimed to be a sociopath. Never had a shrink or therapist tell me I was a sociopath. I got the psychopath label early on, but I don't think that was right either. I'm too sweet and angelic to be either.  (some say psychopathy is different from sociopathy, some say it isn't). It doesn't matter anyway, it's just a label to make you fit into a certain category. I do agree that there are a lot of 'hollywood' sociopath wannabes here, but it's fun to watch lol

These specific traits in AsPD (in the DSM IV) are the ones that relate to what I mentioned in the OP:

• Impulsivity or failure to plan ahead
• Irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated physical fights or assaults
• Reckless disregard for safety of self or others
• Consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain consistent work behavior or honor financial obligations

These ones on the PCL-R also relate to what I mentioned in the OP:

• Parasitic lifestyle
• Poor behavioral controls
• Irresponsibility
• Lack of realistic long-term goals
• Failure to accept responsibility for own actions
• Many short-term marital relationships

All of those traits above can be the cause of many problems in a socio/psychopath's life.

by Sixx

So, you only used the ones you liked from one, then went to another for the other parts you liked. Interesting how you manipulate things so that it matches you so perfectly.

You think I like the traits that have negatively impacted my life? Really...

SEE WHAT I DID THERE?

Now, I would love to pick your brain.

Why are you so proud of being a sociopath, and why do you try so intently on proving that you are one?

If I bring up any topic here that relates to sociopathy, I'm accused of trying to prove myself. Do you not see how ridiculous that is?

Why should I not mention I am sociopath if it's relevant to the conversation?

This is a sociopath forum that is intended for us to discuss sociopathy, be it our own or in general. We should be able to openly discuss sociopathy here without someone throwing around stupid accusations every fucking time it's brought up.

There is nothing anyone can say on this forum that will prove they're a sociopath, but it doesn't hurt to question someone if their claims are questionable. Unlike you, I don't just accuse them. I give them the benefit of doubt. Questions yield answers and, while those answers may or may not be honest, they lend some insight into the workings of their mind. It's handy info to have because I can use it to back up my conclusions. If you were smarter, you would do that too, but you don't.

If you really don't believe I am a sociopath and can't be bothered questioning me to find out the truth, then why bring it up at all? All you're doing is repeating yourself with nothing to gain from it.

hahaha..were you also 'mocking' someone here? what is it with you and these stories about beating men up

So, you only used the ones you liked from one, then went to another for the other parts you liked. Interesting how you manipulate things so that it matches you so perfectly.

SEE WHAT I DID THERE?

Now, I would love to pick your brain.

Why are you so proud of being a sociopath, and why do you try so intently on proving that you are one?

by Bobby Elvis

live a parasitic lifestyle (by defrauding the government and/or living off other people)?...

I'm on disability, if that counts as parasitic or defrauding the govt...i dunno

It's not parasitic or fraud if you're on Disability for a genuine reason, but if you're not, then it could be considered parasitic.

Parasitic can also mean taking advantage of others, using them. Sponging off your family for example would be considered parasitic, especially if you're only doing it because you don't want to spend your own money and would rather spend theirs.

I do agree that there are a lot of 'hollywood' sociopath wannabes here, but it's fun to watch lol

Without any proof either way, how can you know for sure who is real and who isn't?

It seems to me that there is a "wannabe" stigma attached to the sociopath label. You can be a genuine sociopath all you like and people will still assume you're full of shit. I've seen it time and again, not just from my own experience, but also from numerous others who were accused of the same thing.

I think the problem is that the media has glorified sociopaths so much that people have developed these preconceived ideas about them and they've put the label on a pedestal where it doesn't belong.

In my opinion, sociopathy is just a label that describes a set of negative personality traits that affect how we think and act. It's no more special than any other disorder.

Being a sociopath does not give anyone membership to some secret club. So, why people act like it does is beyond me.

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