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Who loves somebody?


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Does any person this sight love anyone but themselves?

 

Psychopaths cannot love

Psychopaths are NOT NORMAL because they are missing the traits that are essential to our humanity. According to Dr. Liane Leedom, psychopaths have no ability to love. They cannot truly care for another person, put anyone’s interests ahead of their own.

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I'm a non and I love love. I've loved several people in my lifetime.

I think most functioning people love to love.

Agree with everything you said as it applies to psychopaths. Agree with everything but your last statement as it applies to sociopaths/AsPDs. Some are able to grasp duty and a workable code of ethics at an intellectual level. This allows some AsPDs to have personal and professional relationships that work with less physical and/ or psychological damage to their partners, coworkers, etc.

 

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Well golly, I wouldn't dare contest the divine word of Liane Leedum. : P

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by AerynFrellMe
Agree with everything you said as it applies to psychopaths. Agree with everything but your last statement as it applies to sociopaths/AsPDs. Some are able to grasp duty and a workable code of ethics at an intellectual level. This allows some AsPDs to have personal and professional relationships that work with less physical and/ or psychological damage to their partners, coworkers, etc.

 An intellectual level is the best place to grasp these things.  The only place, really.  If you base your moral compass on emotions and impulses more than facts and logic, you may as well not have one.  You'll only be acting on the same source that you would have regardless, had you no consideration for ethics, at all.  Morality is a product of higher thought.  Someone who says "murder is wrong because I FEEL like it" is nothing to be taken seriously, compared to someone who says "murder is wrong because I have DECIDED so".
 Then again, I take neither seriously, because I don't believe in universal morality.  But that's an entirely separate matter.

Also, how would you define the difference between psychopaths and sociopaths?

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i dont even love myself... love isn't real. all that's real is loyalty 

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by Stayonhere

Does any person this sight love anyone but themselves?

 

Psychopaths cannot love

Psychopaths are NOT NORMAL because they are missing the traits that are essential to our humanity. According to Dr. Liane Leedom, psychopaths have no ability to love. They cannot truly care for another person, put anyone’s interests ahead of their own.

 WOW NO ONE IS PERFECT

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does anyone here think i don't know what love is

i had sarah ([email protected]) her opinion of me was that i didn't know what love was

i refer love to be happiness and food, internet, games, a girlfriend makes me happy compared to if i didn't have those things

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i know a person who i think love/loved(need to get an update on the relationship) someone. he knew she is bad, so he stayed away from her, but still had to go to work, where she was, so he couldn't get away. and it clearly made him feel bad, because he felt that he should be with her, but knew she is no good. i think he left his job. he had suicide talks sometimes. i think he is much better now that he left his job.

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We need both emotion and logic for empathy We need to understand that our actions cause pain and pleasure to other people (and animals--but that's a different debate) by relating through our own emotions and nerve endings.

The intellect sorts out these sensory experiences and allows us to communicate with others about fair compromises and mutually agreeable exchanges, or to get a grip on our own emotions if they begin to confuse us.

Emotion is the basis of even the most superficial levels of courtesy and etiquette. Think for a minute on why it's rude to fart at the dinner table. Or why it's excessive to slap somebody who just farted before they got halfway out the kitchen. Neither act is physically damaging to anybody else. It's not so much about logic or physical pain, but to make up for the fact that over 85% of us emote in consistent ways. Codes of etiquette exist to prevent messy, distracting and time consuming emotional outbursts over trivial problems like bad smells and pushy behaviour.

Universal morality? Absolutely not. But reasonable codes of conduct that are agreed on by all parties in a given group, and reasonable attempts at following them are required for workable social dynamics.

Murder is wrong bc it pisses people off and provokes years, sometimes generations or centuries of retaliation and counter retaliation. The former Yugoslavia, Gaza, etc. etc.... History is full of proof as to why murder is wrong.

*Note: not all types of killing are considered to be murder. Again, this is a code of conduct that is agreed upon by a vast majority of individuals across different cultures. The rules do vary from culture to culture.

 

Blah. I don't feel like googling for specifics, so I'll give you the difference between sociopaths and psychopaths from memory. Excuse me if my storyteller's grasp isn't what a research psychologist's grasp would be (I came here to flesh out characters for my story/stories not to reinvent the pcl-r :P)  

In a nutshell, psychopaths and sociopaths experience shallow emotions, but psychopaths tend more often to be prone to delusions. The case studies I've read suggest that psychopaths will sometimes kill bc of compulsions that I have yet to understand, or bc of deeply flawed beliefs about love. Sociopaths have a better grasp on measurable realities that can be verified by third party consensus. Sociopaths lie and manipulate and will sometimes kill, but there is more often a practical, territorial, or financially motivated goal behind their destructive acts.

The relationships between agreed upon realities vs. faulty perceptions vs. temporary lapses in observation vs. clever embellishment vs. destructive manipulation could go on for days...

So feel free to split hairs. I may have to come back to this in a few hours, tho. My time isn't really my own today.

 

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Well, I'm no sociopath or psychopath, but yes, I do love. It is empowering. Not just about needs, but more about feeling better. Essentially, I feel empowered by seeing the people I love happy, I even do things to make them happy. Guess it is bottomline about making oneself feel better, but can't leave aside the influence said loved person has - that so called bond. But hey, every view on it is different for each individual and expands the more you are able to experience it.

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