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Handling disrespect from roommates; payback time


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^^Exactly. 

 

Reading that twisty ass bull shit, We should charge you $5.00. Waste of time. 

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by WW2

why are you trying to hide yourself so much?

just never directly admit it, but you should not care at all if they know for 100% its you.

i read this diagonally, so i am not sure how the PayIt works, but you should fuck them as much as you can via money.

All 5 options. Why limit yourself?

I was thinking if I make it too obvious that it's me, and I lose my plausible deniability, they could all 11 bond together in an 'alliance' against me. The things the naggers did were sneaky and covert. For all my other roommates know I could have all made it up. If I make to much fuss they resist, and I seem like the one that's out of line, instead of them.

Maybe you're right, though. It's obvious that if a bunch of plates and pans suddenly dissapear overnight that it was 100% my doing. I could just refuse to admit it and then refuse all cooperation. What are they gonna do. Go to the police? I'm not obligated to pay the PayIt thing.

I gotta be subtle with the money thing, though. People will notice if they suddenly lose 3 months of contributions overnight, and once you get labeled a thief its a reputation that sticks.

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Handling disrespect from roommates; payback time

After reading that whole wall of text all I really got from it was, "I'm pissed off because someone threw out my $5 plate. Help!"

It's a fucking $5 plate for christ's sake. Just go buy another one and stop your whining.

If you really want to know who's throwing your shit out, leave another plate out and try to catch them in the act. Or better yet, wash your damn dishes and pack them away in your room.

Problem solved.

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Handling disrespect from roommates; payback time

Intro:

This is my story, and I need your advice. Imagine for a minute that it's you in this story. I write the script. You get to choose the finisher. Alright, story time.

The start of a covert war:

You're a student. You live on a floor with 11 other students aged 18-32. Everybody has their own room, but you share the kitchen, dishwasher and the showers. You don't really have a reason not to get along and you don't know any of them very well. There's 4 of them who grumble excessively. Their hobbies are trash-talking and circlejerking. They dislike each other immensely, but they dislike other people even more. I'll call them the naggers. Whatever, you don't give two fucks about them. Naggers gonna nag, right? Not your problem. Until your china plates start disappearing. Did somebody taken them from the kitchen after you washed them? Or did they vanish into thin air?

You confront them all via the group mobile messaging service. "Anybody seen my plates?" you ask. No, says the Aspergers kid. Picture a stereotypical nerd with glasses whose back is already permanently deformed at the age of twenty due to hunching over while coding all day long. You're now picturing the Aspergers kid. I'll refer to him as nagger 4. He's at the bottom of the nagger hierarchy. "Maybe the spirit-of-cleansing got rid of it during the night. Some people don't like a filthy kitchen". What a tool. "So somebody threw my plate away", you think. Was it no. 4?

"Well", responds one of my newest roommates, a bubbling pile of insecurity: "I saw a plate in the trash the other day, while looking for my bacon". So, that confirms it. Somebody is fucking with you. Do they target you on purpose? Or is it naggers being naggers? You've always projected a laid-back image and not really bothered with the social dynamics in the house, but you can't tolerate this kind of disrespect. Anger flares up. "Oh, one of the trash-bags was put outside in the container earlier, for some reason", says nagger 4 on mobile messaging.

There's 3 trash-bags, and taking them out is a weekly chore. They always get put outside at the same time, and at the last moment possible, when they're all full. So somebody decided to randomly take the trash bag with your plate in it outside earlier, before you had a chance to scoop the plate out. Now you're 100% you're being targeted.

Luckily, there happens to be a website that registers who pays for what, which I'll refer to as PayIt. You and your roommates share a group in it. Example: you buy toilet paper for 10 dollars for 10 people, you put it on the PayIt and it raises your contribution by 9 dollars, and lowers theirs by 1 dollar each.

So you say on the group messaging service: "That's alright, you guys throw my plate away, I'll reimburse it from all 11 of you." Nagger No. 4 immediatly objects: "No wtf, not gonna pay for that".
"Whatever", you think. "This is not worth the hassle." So, you leave it be. You have more important things to concern yourself with than a 5 dollar plate.

Then, a few days later, the naggers start nagging about you again. They don't confront you in person. They never do. They always play nice in person, putting up the friendly neighbor act. Not even acknowledging something is wrong when you bring the problem up one on one. Via mobile group app messaging they suddenly get a lot more confidence. They refer to you in the third person. "The kitchen is a mess again", says nagger 3. "Somebody really needs to learn how to clean up behind them."

Then nagger 2 makes a crucial mistake, and says: "Maybe he needs another fine". "Maybe they should stack exponentially, nagger 2" Says nagger 3.

Another fine? What the fuck are they talking about? You go to PayIt to see what he means. And there you see it: on the day you asked about your plates, 10 dollars is subtracted from your PayIt. "Fine for consistently making a mess of the kitchen" -Anonymous.

Throwing the plate away was one thing. But having the audacity to fucking fine you for it too? You get angry. You want to get up and bash somebody's face in. You don't give a fuck about the money. It's the disrespect that makes your veins pop out of your forehead.

Then the anger settles, and a feeling of calm washes over you. "I don't get angry", you think. "I get even." You move all your personal items to your room, so nobody can steal your stuff or throw it away anymore. You go to PayIt and you discover a bug: you can't delete the fine, if you do that it'll show up greyed out in the history. They'll know if you delete the fine. You can however, change who pays what to whom, the description, and the date that it happened. And it's untraceable, too. They can't prove you did anything. You change the fine to a minor contribution made by yourself, so as not to arouse suspicion. Seeing as they fined you secretly, you can undo it and maintain plausible deniability. You never knew they gave you any fine.

The problem of the fine is resolved, for now. You ask a non-nagger roommate about the fine. He knew nothing about it, either. He wouldn't speak out for you by himself, but he's on your side. You don't need to push him much for him to reveal his disgust for the naggers. He's honest with because he'll leave this place soon, so he doesn't have to keep up pretense.

Fines and similar decisions used to be only done after an unanimous group decision, in a distant past. You know it was nagger 2 that gave you the fine, because nagger 3 was edging him on for it with "Maybe they should stack exponentially" comment.

Summary

So, summarized, here's the things you want to get even for:

A) Somebody had the audacity to throw your stuff away.B) Then they (nagger 2) 'fine' you for a bullshit reason, you never made a mess of the kitchen.
C) Even if the fine was deserved, it was sneakily added to PayIt without any mention. It was meant to fuck you over.
D) The fine was known about by a select few people. What's this, an autocracy?
E) The kitchen is a fucking mess and nobody does their chores. Nobody ever gets fined, until now. Unacceptable.

Why Payback

There's no point in trying to change the system or looking for compromise. They're clearly out for blood. You have to abuse the system they created to the max. These cunts are set in their ways. Their guilt is written on their faces, but you don't have hard evidence. They'll hide behind plausible deniability if you accuse them. Open, honest discourse is out of the question. You can't get them all together for a house meeting anyway, and if you try to debate using the mobile group message app they'll gang up on you because they feel safe behind the screens of their mobile phones. Plausible deniability is key. The naggers can't ever pin anything on you, otherwise they'll be able to get the support of all the 11 roommates and fuck you right back.

Methods

Here's some things that could be done to give them a taste of their own medicine:
A) Every few days, use the PayIt bug to erase contributions one of them made a very long time ago, so he start slowly leaking money without realising it, and if he realises it, he won't know how/why. The only way they can prove this is happening is by having a screenshot of the website before and right after the change, and even that isn't solid proof.

B) Throw their stuff away. Plates, pots, pans. Into the container, or in plain sight, out of the window. Eye for an eye. You'd be the prime suspect, but hey: "Maybe the spirit-of-cleansing got rid of it during the night?". This would completely fuck up any semblance of positive atmosphere there was left and everybody would take all their personal belonging in their rooms. If done to the right people in the right order, this can have massive impact on overall atmosphere and morale.

C) Sabotage their hardware. There's some fancy consoles and a tv in the kitchen. Would be a shame if that shit broke down.

D) Fuck with them online. Join Asperger kid's coding project in disguise. Subtly fuck up small things everywhere over a longer period so he can't rollback changes, or install malware to destroy his credibility. This guy makes a lot of money from online donations to his project, he devoted a large portion of his life to it.

E) Call the cops on them with noise complaints whenever they try to organize anything.

Your opinion

What would you do? Did people ever vandalize your stuff or disrespect you in a sneaky way, and what did you do about it? Maybe I'm blowing the whole thing out of proportion. Maybe I should try and keep ignoring them, as I've always done. But what if they keep getting bolder? What if the anonymous plate and fine ocurrences are just the start of something that'll snowball way out of proportion if nobody puts a stop to it? Or I could try to 'befriend' them. Turn my enemies into my puppets. All the naggers except for nagger 1 are clueless and simpleminded. Couldn't be hard to manipulate them. I'd have to brush up my trashtalking skills though, to get on their level.

 

 

 

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Handling disrespect from roommates; payback time

So pathetic, really you clearly are so anti-social you can't even deal with other people in a normal way. 

YOU SURE WILL SHOW THEM BY DESTROYING THEIR HARDWARE!!! 

Fucking pathetic, they probably disrespect you because you are a nobody and undeserving of respect, taking the time to write a mini story about how you got fucked for being beta.

 

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Handling disrespect from roommates; payback time

why are you trying to hide yourself so much?

just never directly admit it, but you should not care at all if they know for 100% its you.

i read this diagonally, so i am not sure how the PayIt works, but you should fuck them as much as you can via money.

All 5 options. Why limit yourself?

If someone does that to me, i get very annoyed and let it go when its small, but my annoyance is clear. They usually stop, as i have gotten violent as well, over very little things. I do have better self control now.

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Handling disrespect from roommates; payback time

Buy a new plate first.

   Then bust a nut on each of their pillows, toothbrushes, and fuck, blow the biggest one on their plates (smear that stuff all around, like your washing it, there you go).  

Cum all over their shit but put it back where it belongs.

Enjoy.  

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by WW2

also, do you care for your reputation with those people?

 

For sure he does. Those are his fraternity brothers, and some of them might bring over pussy every now and then.

 

OP go and buy a new plate at the dollar store, and keep it in your room after you wash it.

 

 

Nothing will ever be fair. I only stayed at a frat house for a summer, and most people were gone. When I did have college roommates though, it was constantly a double standard. I couldn't bring drugs into the place, but when they had friends over, they all did drugs and puked all over the place and expected me to clean it up, and so on... the answer is to find a new place to live, your roommates will not change.

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Handling disrespect from roommates; payback time

an alliance of 11 people? the bigger they are the more there is to aim at.

you might want to get sm1 to help you tho.

also, do you care for your reputation with those people?

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Handling disrespect from roommates; payback time

I'm pretty paranoid as a person, and always expect strikes an set-ups from others, so If I was to get in a roommate situation, I'd do a pre-emptive attack on a single person to set example in a way they'll know it happened but can't prove it (a successful smear campaign, a financial blow, etc) so they'll know better than dare fuck with me. 

If I was you, and in the situation you are currently in, I'd have one of their beloved electric appliance fail, then make sly threatening comments:

"Damn, electronic appliances are so weak and fragile these days, I wonder if the [insert the other appliances here] are going to break, it'd be a shame, you know [big grin]"

"I wonder if that's God's punishment for what happened to my tables...and if he might break more of your stuff for justice [big grin]"

Watch out for revenge plans, don't give them weakness to exploit, and whenever they try get back at you, slam their nose on the ground. Simple

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