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That's an interesting thought experiment. All crime, not just violent crime.

Hell yes I'm in. Way to level the playing field and address wealth disparity in America.

I wouldn't resort to violence unless absolutely necessary, tho. Self defence only, I might step in if I see one or 2 bullies picking on a small woman or child, if my firepower exceeds theirs.

I'd also wait to participate. I'd observe the first Purge and see if I can spot any patterns to the violence that I could use as a cover if or when I go out the following year to make some money. (That's a big IF in caps for you cherrypickers :P)

But yeah, full riot gear and a firearm would be a must if I decide to come out of the shadows. lol. Mob behaviours are unpredictable, so it's difficult to say what I'd do unless I were actually in that situation.

Idk about letting that guy into my house. Fucking kids. That was the dilemma I always had with mine. Trying to teach them to do the right thing when the rest of the world only wants to have Hog Parties and go around lynching people. I honestly don't know what I'd do in that situation.

I guess I'll have to watch the movie.

-Are you for or against it?

I'm totally for it. In my town, there aren't many people with more heavy duty weapons than myself, so I'm in no danger, and I'd love to see how it all goes down.

- Would you commit violence on the night of the purge? Why or why not?

I'd probably wander the streets, and if I came across an unsuspecting person, I'd probably attack them for kicks. Especially if they're helpless. 

- If yes, would you hurt and/or kill random people or would you have a specific target in mind?

I do have one target that I'd like to torture and kill in mind, but if I didn't come across them or end up at their house on the night, I wouldn't really mind. I'd sorta just go for anyone, as long as it doesn't effect my rep after the purge.

- Would you be a vigilante and only kill those who are attacking harmless people?

This may seem hypocritical of me, cause I said I'd like to harm helpless people, but I do have a strong sense of a twisted justice. The thrill of being a hero and being loved would lead me to helping out with people in need, and I've always loved the idea of being a hero. Plus, the reputation for saving people afterwards would be tremendous.

- Or would you simply try to find a place to stay safe until the purge ends?

It's too exciting out there, I wouldn't be able to sit indoors all night and do nothing.

- If someone was being hunted on the night of the purge and they ran to your door, afraid, begging to be let in, would you let them in?

Really, it depends on who it is. Someone I find attractive? Sure. A friend? Possibly. But I would like to see what the person was running from, and what would happen to them if it caught them.

ofc i am against it, it wont do any change expect increase crime rate, so its absolutely stupid as an idea

i dont know if i will commit violence, if i am gonna commit violence it will happen regardless of the Purge

i'd target annoying people but they would all be hidden in bunkers

i wont be a vigilante, because if i was to be, then i would go and shoot the person who made this happen

not only i would be in a sage place, but i would taunt the people outside

if someone bangs at my door when i can kill people, he will die because he is annoying

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'Stay off my lawn!  '

^this will be enforced to death by me on such a day. literally.

Obviously arson is illegal. Or is that the reason for low unemployment rates?

Rather stupid premise if you ask me.

Personally, if that were a reality. I would't be entering the streets, but I wouldn't be sitting around hiding in an armed house. I'd be out the days before with briefcases and firebombs, and I'd probably spend the night out in the country somewhere far away. (only kidding around about the fire bombs)

You can bet your ass, I'd be out the next day after everyone is dead going through their pockets.

You know what though? It's really not that stupid of a premise. Debt slaves need something more at the end of that 4 hour commute in gridlock traffic. Wake up. 

That's what the writers are doing. Psychology majors turned screenwriters, turned producers who are doing their best to appeal to the lowest common denominator.

Too bad for the writers though. They are too late, apparently the USA is in a huge boom right now with unemployment. All time lows.

I'd guess there would be a lot of missing children however.

https://www.google.ca/search?q=unemployment+rates+USa

It's almost back to pre-recession levels.

Keep your eyes open for the bubbles.

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/sep/16/tech-bubble-warning-investors-dotcom-losing-money

Leading tech investors warn of bubble risk 'unprecedented since 1999'

Billy Gurley and Fred Wilson, who backed Uber and Twitter, say Silicon Valley investing in too many losing ventures

The trick is, you have to avoid the financial papers. They are in it to push out the competition, to keep demand in those sectors high raising the prices. Or to lower the cost of investment. Debt collection is a lucrative business. So a bubble isn't always what one might expect.

Typically it is a sign that corruption is on the rise and industries are eroding.

Expect crime rates in real estate and tech companies to soar.

In some cases it means more hand out job opportunities are there as well. Artificial job creation.

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2014/07/23/the-real-unemployment-rate-and-the-dearth-of-full-time-jobs

The New American Dilemma

Obamacare is one reason for the rise of part-time labor.

There was a distinctive odor of hype about the newest jobs report from the federal government. Most people will have the impression we created 288,000 jobs in June – meaning full-time jobs. Not so. Full-time jobs plunged by over half a million, or 523,000. What’s increased is part-time jobs. They soared by about 800,000 to over 28 million. Just think of all those Americans working part time, no doubt glad to have the work, but they also have lower pay, diminished benefits, and a lack of job security. And then there’s the effect on self-esteem and the stress of managing a household.

 

I am not joking around when I say that I believe we are in a permanent transition period.

Guys, what do you think about this show? I have a hard time accepting that it might be real, but the few clips I've seen, it looks totally real to me.

A Sherrif...

This is the real purge.

hey Grim! Wanna get into the Repo business? I need a partner.

Anyways, the economy is a game of musical chairs. You'd never get a drop to 1% unemployment. That's not the reality. Without people at the bottom there is no stability. If there were a purge where people were killed every year, unemployment levels would accelerate until there was nothing left except farmers, gunsmiths, seamstresses, and shoe makers. Only my opinion.

I am sure there are more people employed in the correctional services industry in the USA than all of Hollywood. Only a guess. Super Prisons are big business.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_States

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermax_prison

United States[edit]

Allan B. Polunsky Unit houses State of Texas supermax units

Mississippi State Penitentiary houses State of Mississippi supermax units
This list is incomplete; you can help by expanding it.
Most of these facilities only contain supermax wings or sections, with other parts of the facility under lesser security measures.
Alabama
Holman Correctional Facility - Atmore, Alabama
Arizona
ASPC-Eyman, SMU I - Florence, Arizona
ASPC-Eyman, Browning Unit (Previously SMU II) - Florence, Arizona
United States Penitentiary - Tucson, Arizona
Arkansas
Varner Supermax - Lincoln County, Arkansas
California
United States Penitentiary - Atwater, California
Pelican Bay State Prison - Crescent City, California
Alcatraz Federal Penitentiary - San Francisco, California (Closed March 21, 1963)
California Correctional Institution, Tehachapi, California
High Desert State Prison - Susanville, California
Colorado
Colorado State Penitentiary - Cañon City, Colorado
U.S. Penitentiary Florence ADMAX (Administrative Maximum) Facility - Florence, Colorado (entirely supermax)
Connecticut
Northern Correctional Institution - Somers, Connecticut
Florida
United States Penitentiary - Coleman, Florida
Florida State Prison - Raiford, Florida
Georgia
United States Penitentiary - Atlanta, Georgia
Idaho
Idaho Maximum Security Institution - Boise, Idaho
Illinois
United States Penitentiary - Marion, Illinois (Downgraded to a medium-security facility in September 2006)[20]
Tamms Correctional Center - Tamms, Illinois (Closed January 2013)
Indiana
Wabash Valley Correctional Facility, SHU - Carlisle, Indiana
United States Penitentiary - Terre Haute, Indiana
Westville Correctional Facility, WCU - Westville, Indiana
Kansas
United States Disciplinary Barracks - Fort Leavenworth, Kansas (military prison)
United States Penitentiary - Leavenworth, Kansas (being downgraded to medium security)
El Dorado Correctional Facility - El Dorado, Kansas
Kentucky
Kentucky State Penitentiary - Eddyville, Kentucky (the only prison in Kentucky housing supermax units)
Louisiana
Louisiana State Penitentiary - West Feliciana Parish, Louisiana
United States Penitentiary Pollock
Maine
Maine State Prison - Warren, Maine
Maryland
Maryland Correctional Adjustment Center - Baltimore, Maryland
North Branch Correctional Institution - Cumberland, Maryland (final housing unit began operation in summer of 2008)
Massachusetts
Souza-Baranowski Correctional Center- Shirley, Massachusetts
Massachusetts Correctional Institution - Cedar Junction - Walpole, Massachusetts
Minnesota
Minnesota Correctional Facility Oak Park Heights - Oak Park Heights, Minnesota
Mississippi
Mississippi State Penitentiary - Sunflower County, Mississippi (Unit 32)[21]
Missouri
Jefferson City Correctional Center - Jefferson City, Missouri
New Hampshire
New Hampshire State Prison - Men - Concord, New Hampshire
New Jersey
New Jersey State Prison - Trenton, New Jersey
East Jersey State Prison (Rahway) - Woodbridge, New Jersey
Northern State Prison - Newark, New Jersey
Essex County Correctional Facility - Newark, New Jersey
New Mexico
Penitentiary of New Mexico - unincorporated Santa Fe County, New Mexico - Uses the Bureau Classification System - Level 6 being Supermax
New York
Attica Correctional Facility-Attica, New York
Upstate Correctional Facility - Malone, New York
Sing Sing Correctional Facility - Ossining, New York
Southport Correctional Facility - (disciplinary supermax prison with only solitary confinement), Pine City, New York
Ohio
Ohio State Penitentiary - Youngstown, Ohio
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State Penitentiary - McAlester, Oklahoma
Oregon
Oregon State Penitentiary - Salem, Oregon
Pennsylvania
United States Penitentiary - Allenwood, Pennsylvania
United States Penitentiary - Lewisburg, Pennsylvania
State Correctional Institution Greene - Waynesburg, Pennsylvania
Tennessee
Riverbend Maximum Security Institution - Nashville, Tennessee
Texas
United States Penitentiary - Jefferson County, Texas[citation needed]
Estelle High Security Unit - W.J. Estelle Unit - Walker County, Texas[22]
Allan B. Polunsky Unit (formerly Terrell Unit) - West Livingston, Texas[23]
Utah
Utah State Prison - Draper, Utah
Virginia
Wallens Ridge State Prison - Big Stone Gap, Virginia
Red Onion State Prison - Wise County, Virginia
Washington
Clallam Bay Corrections Center IMU
Monroe Corrections Complex IMU
Stafford Creek Corrections Center IMU
Washington Corrections Center IMU
Washington State Penitentiary IMU
West Virginia
Mt. Olive Correctional Complex - Fayette County, West Virginia
Wisconsin
Wisconsin Secure Program Facility - Boscobel, Wisconsin

 

 

So if there were a purge, then all the contractors, the suppliers to the super prisons, all the guards, they'd be out of work. Then you've got a steady decline in the number of law enforcement jobs, so they'd be the next to go, but to be honest, I think the ex-cops would just kill some rich people on the night of the purge and take thier jobs.

Are you for or against it?

Against it but I wouldn't protest, civilians would be easy targets.

Would you commit violence on the night of the purge? Why or why not?

Probably not, unless it falls on my scheduled night walks.

If yes, would you hurt and/or kill random people or would you have a specific target in mind?

It's tempting to go tie up loose ends with my old target but I can already feel my morality tugging on the leash.

Would you be a vigilante and only kill those who are attacking harmless people?

If I got money for it.

Or would you simply try to find a place to stay safe until the purge ends?

I'm safe walking the streets.

"If someone was being hunted on the night of the purge and they ran to your door, afraid, begging to be let in, would you let them in?

If I didn't recognize a vocal pattern they'd be shot.

^ If you refuse to associate with them, then how would you know what the poor want, wooster? lol

It does no good to speculate about some illegal riot in 2011. It's not the same as making those behaviours legal for one night. I'm pretty sure those riots happened with police and pepperspray fighting back and slowing down the mob.

I can admit that I have no clue what would happen. None of us do. But ofc you won't admit it, will you?

The only way we could know would be to do it. Implement The Purge strategy regularly in one country, everywhere for at least 10 years.

But it ain't gonna happen. Go ahead and flap your gums all afternoon about smthg you can't possibly predict. I'm on my way to work. 

by AerynFrellMe

^ If you refuse to associate with them, then how would you know what the poor want, wooster? lol

 What “refuse”? LOL. As if associating with some random alien mindset was some sort of obligation to refuse or fulfill. (Or you think my financial situation should make me associate myself with people whose mentality i have nothing in common with?)

(Funny thing, in another thread  (http://sociopath-community.com/topic/2014-10-26/myers-briggs/2#123373)  you claim to know what ‘psychopaths’ do or do not ‘feel’, while refusing to associate with them - how’s that, eh?)

And how would i know? The same way one knows the Earth isn’t flat and that the tooth-fairy doesn’t really exist, that's how. From objective factual evidence. 

See the lootings post-Katrina / Haiyan etc., the looting of the Malaysian plane crash in Ukraine, etc. etc. etc. & you name it, for examples. The list is endless. Dream on. (Or wake up, but that’s not your thing.)
Looting is human nature. Succumb to it or not, your pick - but call it what it is, and don’t try to re-dress it as ‘levelling the playing fields’ & all that idiotic marxist bullshit. That’s like putting lipstick on a pig.

I can admit that I have no clue what would happen. None of us do.

Of course we do. If you look through history, all those “purging” events did was ‘redistributing’ wealth into the looters own pockets and thoroughly bypassing the ‘people’ (i.e. those in whose name said events were staged, to begin with). The only thing communism did to the countries cursed with it was deepening wealth disparity beyond repair (and much beyond even the atrocious american wealth disparity) to criminal proportions.

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Interesting huffpost article on flash robs and looting for non-essentials: 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-gregory-jantz-phd/looting-national-disaster_b_2042776.html

- Are you for or against it?

Against it. I don't need to world to change for me to fulfill my need and wants, the status quo is fine. 

Seems like a stupid childish concept aimed to please though in desperate need of change.

- Would you commit violence on the night of the purge? Why or why not?

Anyway, I would probably commit violence, hey why not? Probably because I get to inflict suffering for free and the whole predator feeling is akin to pure ecstasy.

- If yes, would you hurt and/or kill random people or would you have a specific target in mind?

Random, depends on the situation and the needs of the time.

- Would you be a vigilante and only kill those who are attacking harmless people?

No

- Or would you simply try to find a place to stay safe until the purge ends?

No

- If someone was being hunted on the night of the purge and they ran to your door, afraid, begging to be let in, would you let them in?

Let them in and kill them probably, depends on if they seem to pose a threat.

"- Are you for or against it?"
Against, only because I could see a lot of damage outside of their projection being done and other larger costs following when trying to rebuild. Imagine how that would cripple insurance, unless that one day they don't honor payments. It'd be safer to have all crime be legal all the time than bottling it all into one night, as if it were all the time people would grow past it, get used to it, instead of prepare for it like a Holiday.  There's too much potential to cripple a society with such a decision, even with the promised gains. What if some looney decides to target only doctors? The damage would outlast The Purge itself, as people have every day that isn't The Purge to plan for it, even make threats and then only act on them that day. Someone with calculated enough strikes could stand to make a lot of money through things like stocks, so monetary gain outside of looting becomes a frightening possibility, turning business models into something less consistent, instead constantly shifting and at points likely improvisational.

The only reason I'd ever be "for" it is to see how it affects all the days other than it within a scenario where I'm not affected by it. I'd love to see how others would respond, but I'd need to last long enough to see it for it to be worth it at all.

"- Would you commit violence on the night of the purge? Why or why not?"
"All Crime is Legal", go figure that it'd lead people to think of violence first. I'd be looking towards other laws worth breaking instead and prepare for those in advance. Drugging someone on a highly addictive substance and not risking law trouble for it for instance, it's like a free pass to ruin someone's life, if not a means of attempting to ensure loyalty.

"- If yes, would you hurt and/or kill random people or would you have a specific target in mind?"
I'd do what is necessary to survive, even if that means being with another group and going against my better judgement at points. My house doesn't lock down with metal walls, and it's likely that airports would be a mess and have extremely pocket-gouging prices. I'd likely move away from a place that practices something that messy for the safety of myself and the things that matter to me.

"- Would you be a vigilante and only kill those who are attacking harmless people?"
I'd not really be in the position to set goals and codes to follow, so I'd pretty much target anyone I didn't know.

"- Or would you simply try to find a place to stay safe until the purge ends?"
Bingo. Probably longer than that.

"- If someone was being hunted on the night of the purge and they ran to your door, afraid, begging to be let in, would you let them in?"
Fuck no, not my problem, and they'd likely not do the same for me. Any trust during The Purge would need to be established in advance and planned around before the day of.

I wonder how this would affect the Psych field. The potential mental damage would be staggering.