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Oh dear, Mr O, it appears you're getting defensive yet again. I must have really hit a nerve... somehow.

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No. Martyr's are typically known for their last act alone. I wouldn't want my biggest achievement to be death for any reason.

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i wouldnt ever do something that would be 100% death. 99% is a plausible chance, but 100%, no.

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Like Pink said, I would probably die for some super special love or something. I've never been in a life or death situation though, so when shit hits the fan, and it's time to decide,  I have no idea what I'd do.

And apart from that, I wouldn't willingly die for anything.

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Awhile ago I would have, during my first 2 years of my obsession. I only cared to do it, because there was no way in words I could show her how I felt.

Later part of year 2 to year 4 nope. I would risk my life if it was a 50-50 but never sacrifice myself for her.

5-current: Nope. She wouldn't deserve that

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are you sure you like women? have you ever been attracted to a man?

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nope

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Being a martyr can inspire great change against whatever "injustice" was the cause, but the idea of not living to see your own impact strikes me as enough of a reason to not bother.

Fight Club's perspective on becoming a martyr made it sound rather poetic in sense, but it ultimately stemmed from his own sense of self loathing. The idea of becoming a martyr in that setting was more about having his death mean something in a setting where living was portrayed as pointless (alongside some existential angst).

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So if life became pointless and a burden you'd do it, as long as there was something important that you death would change?

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The problem is that I don't see anything as important enough to bother changing, at least to that degree. I'm mostly de-valuing the martyrdom represented in Fight Club since his sense of self loathing had him already carrying a death wish in the first place, which in a sense makes it less genuine. It'd be like someone who is anorexic claiming they're going on a hunger strike.

The words reflect it as if it were something beautiful, but I'd argue it really was instead a very well thought out excuse. Life to me is already "pointless and a burden", and so far I haven't tried to kill myself to change anything. More frustrating still, I doubt it'd change anything meaningful at all even if I were to be driven to such a point because I am no one important.

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